nature of socialism and my sandwich

[Drakim]

I'm sitting here enjoying a wickedly good sandwich. I'd take a picture to show but I'm too lazy and I'm almost done eating it anyways.

The thing that's making this sandwich so damn great is the fact that it's loaded with horse-meat instead of boring old ham or beef. That and the tomatoes.

So, flipping by Wikipedia, I realized that horse-meat is horribly taboo in the US, and even banned in several states.

So newgrounds, what gives? How come the land of the free, the land of small government and free enterprise, has so many restrictions on shit you can buy and eat? I'm telling you, this sandwich is filthy good and you are missing out. It's not like horse meat has any real drawbacks like weed or causes child labor or anything. It's pretty much banned because people like the pretty horsies.

I see a lot of talk about healthcare reform and socialism, but nobody addresses the obvious communism that lies behind letting the government restrict which meat products you should consume. I mean, banning human meat is understandable, but horses? It's too fucking delicious.

So, when will the US stop being such a socialist place? You are making Europe look bad, lagging after with governmental pointless control and restrictions.

[Korriken]

its a cultural thing. we don't eat our pet's and we don't eat animals that would be better off tilling the fields. that and horses are expensive. very expensive. some people in other countries eat dogs and cats, and the Hindus don't eat beef.

gonna whine about how we dont eat snails next? (except for a certain group of people in louisiana)

[Drakim]

At 7/23/10 11:58 AM, Korriken wrote: its a cultural thing. we don't eat our pet's and we don't eat animals that would be better off tilling the fields. that and horses are expensive. very expensive. some people in other countries eat dogs and cats, and the Hindus don't eat beef.

gonna whine about how we dont eat snails next? (except for a certain group of people in louisiana)

You misrepresent the situation entirely now.

I made a topic about how your country (at least a lot of states) bans this food. You see, even if the food was allowed, it would still be possible not to eat it. I thought it was extra hilarious because the US prides itself for it's open free market.

You, on the other hand, is portraying my post as if I'm saying that "you guys are evil for not eating what I'm eating". I don't really care jack shit about what you eat, buddy.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 7/23/10 10:35 AM, Drakim wrote:

So, when will the US stop being such a socialist place? You are making Europe look bad, lagging after with governmental pointless control and restrictions.

That one state is capitalist and another country is socialist, these days, is largely an illusion. Some States have very high transfer payments, others do not, some countries are heavily regulated, others are not.

The institution known as the united states federal government regulates it's economy as much as any western European nation, and in many ways does so to a greater extent; education is a great example, our primary education system is comparatively more socialist than Sweden's. We have a weaker welfare system and thus this truth is often ignored.

By the way Drakim, i didn't know that horsemeat was banned anyway, and i doubt that most Americans do either.

[RubberTrucky]

Why is not allowing horse meat to be eaten socialist? If anything, it's not socialist, cause you are banning production of meat that could be feeding a lot of people.

[Drakim]

At 7/23/10 01:11 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: By the way Drakim, i didn't know that horsemeat was banned anyway, and i doubt that most Americans do either.

During hard times such as second world war, some states actually allowed it, but forbade it again once the war was over. lulz

[Drakim]

At 7/23/10 01:32 PM, RubberTrucky wrote: Why is not allowing horse meat to be eaten socialist? If anything, it's not socialist, cause you are banning production of meat that could be feeding a lot of people.

Wut. Working horses (like the ones the awesome police rides) and horses breed and feed for slaughtering are pretty unrelated. You don't just grab random horses off the street and from starving families, and slaughter them to produce the meat.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 7/23/10 01:36 PM, Drakim wrote:

At 7/23/10 01:11 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: By the way Drakim, i didn't know that horsemeat was banned anyway, and i doubt that most Americans do either.

During hard times such as second world war, some states actually allowed it, but forbade it again once the war was over. lulz

Laissez Faire reforms during the second world war? Drakim are you planning on becoming a historical revisionist?

[Drakim]

At 7/23/10 02:53 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: Laissez Faire reforms during the second world war? Drakim are you planning on becoming a historical revisionist?

I really really wanted to seem smart with my reply to this, but I'll admit it, I had to google Laissez Faire to see what it was all about, and I had to google to see what it's relation was to the second world war, which I found nothing and I'm too lazy to spend more than a few minutes on this. But I'm assuming that since it's a war era, it's pretty relevant, and thus, you are being sarcastic in your post, basically telling me that it's no surprise.

But thanks anyways, I learned something new.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 7/23/10 03:16 PM, Drakim wrote:

At 7/23/10 02:53 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: Laissez Faire reforms during the second world war? Drakim are you planning on becoming a historical revisionist?

I really really wanted to seem smart with my reply to this, but I'll admit it, I had to google Laissez Faire to see what it was all about, and I had to google to see what it's relation was to the second world war, which I found nothing and I'm too lazy to spend more than a few minutes on this. But I'm assuming that since it's a war era, it's pretty relevant, and thus, you are being sarcastic in your post, basically telling me that it's no surprise.

But thanks anyways, I learned something new.

It was an economic-history joke. During the new deal, and especially during the second world war, the government signifgantly expanded its power over the economy, nationalizing industries, turning factories that made consumer goods into factories that made consumer bads (Bombs and what have you). a Phenomenon known as war socialism. (not to be confused with military socialism)

So i found it funny that you mentioned how the government 'deregulated the economy' in the regard you mention.

[GrammerNaziElite]

We apply these rules and restrictions because the far right believes the government's only role in our daily lives should be to enforce morality.

As far as I can tell, that is the reason for almost every civil regulation in the US.

[ubermanng]

i think we are all of topic if its is illegal to eat horse meat, that would be proviencal sociaslm not national thant would come down to say kansas saying farms cant grow wheat any more or raise bison.

[Drakim]

At 7/23/10 11:05 PM, ubermanng wrote: i think we are all of topic if its is illegal to eat horse meat, that would be proviencal sociaslm not national thant would come down to say kansas saying farms cant grow wheat any more or raise bison.

The laws vary from state to state, but I'm pretty sure that the states that forbid consumption of horse meat also have laws against the production of it.

[Entice]

A capitalist society can (and should) have a few Socialist/Communist policies. Banning horse meat is a horrible example, its more of a right wing policy, because it is law based on tradition. A better example of a Socialist policy would be minimum wage or something like that.

[Urielthelesser]

wait... eating people is ILLEGAL? Whoops!