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[wdfcverfgtghm]

“You Americans, you treat the Third World in the way an Iraqi peasant treats his new bride. Three days of honeymoon, and then it’s off to the fields.”
- Sadam Hussein.

Insane Men Many Times Find The Only Sane Things To Say.

[Low-Budget-Superhero]

At 8/13/01 01:12 AM, Anarchypenguin wrote: “You Americans, you treat the Third World in the way an Iraqi peasant treats his new bride. Three days of honeymoon, and then it’s off to the fields.”
- Sadam Hussein.

Insane Men Many Times Find The Only Sane Things To Say.

Hussein said that! Damn, I guess your right....

It's true, Americans act superior to third world countries. Why do you think we were in Kosovo? We think we're the world's policeman! This mentality goes all the way back to Korea and Vietnam, we got our boys ( Note: I say boys because most of them are under legal adulthood age) killed for no good reason! I guess Saddam should know all about that, shouldn't he?

[Slizor]

This son of a bitch stole my quote!(roughly)
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." (Goethe) Damnation! My one is better though.

[anhnonymous]

At 8/13/01 01:12 AM, Anarchypenguin wrote: “You Americans, you treat the Third World in the way an Iraqi peasant treats his new bride. Three days of honeymoon, and then it’s off to the fields.”
- Sadam Hussein.

Hmmm...interesting...this says alot about the iraquis wouldn't you say? I wonder then, what the difference would be if iraq was the superpower seeing how they treat their wife. So I guess the "royal" iraquis would treat their wife the same except they have more wives to ignore than a peasant would.

[wdfcverfgtghm]

At 8/13/01 03:18 PM, anhnonymous wrote:

At 8/13/01 01:12 AM, Anarchypenguin wrote: “You Americans, you treat the Third World in the way an Iraqi peasant treats his new bride. Three days of honeymoon, and then it’s off to the fields.”
- Sadam Hussein.

Hmmm...interesting...this says alot about the iraquis wouldn't you say? I wonder then, what the difference would be if iraq was the superpower seeing how they treat their wife. So I guess the "royal" iraquis would treat their wife the same except they have more wives to ignore than a peasant would.

Ehh... I dunno If Wife Treating is the best thing to bring up in terms of the U.S. Point and case? Bill "B.J." Clinton.

[anhnonymous]

At 8/13/01 08:06 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote: Ehh... I dunno If Wife Treating is the best thing to bring up in terms of the U.S. Point and case? Bill "B.J." Clinton.

LOL good point but I didn't want to start an argument I just wanted interpret the quote from my point of view.

[Low-Budget-Superhero]

My turn! My turn!

"It is white." - George W. Bush discription of the "White House" to a student in England on one of his trips (that cause riots in the city).

That's My Bush!

[shorbe]

Gameboy: Whilst I wouldn't say America is the ultimate to which we should aspire, it is superior to Third World countries. That's why they're third world countries- because they're shitholes. If they weren't, they'd be called first world countries.

That having been said, I'd like to say what a dude Saddam is. In fact, I love all the world dictators for having the balls to give a big finger to the rest of us. That must really piss off people like Bush and all his smug, Christian conservatives. Anyone who can do that gets my thumbs up.

Let's face it, the only difference between Saddam and Bush is that Bush is one of us, and thus a "good guy." It's the same with Hitler and Churchill. They're all fucking maniacs, but history paints them with different brushes.

While I'm at it, I'd like to wish a big happy birthday to Fidel. Here's to forty two more years of telling everyone else to fuck off and mind their own business.

shorbe

[anhnonymous]

At 8/18/01 06:46 AM, shorbe wrote:

While I'm at it, I'd like to wish a big happy birthday to Fidel. Here's to forty two more years of telling everyone else to fuck off and mind their own business.

shorbe

Once castro is dead, cuba will finally know what its like to be free.

[wdfcverfgtghm]

At 8/18/01 05:37 PM, anhnonymous wrote:

At 8/18/01 06:46 AM, shorbe wrote:

While I'm at it, I'd like to wish a big happy birthday to Fidel. Here's to forty two more years of telling everyone else to fuck off and mind their own business.

shorbe

Once castro is dead, cuba will finally know what its like to be free.

Yeah If american corperations don't enslave it like it was before. Or turn it into another Jamaica, free my ass. Free to live in a shit hole in enteral strife for food and avoiding (or douping) fat ugly tourists.

[shorbe]

anhonymous: What are you using as your reference point for freedom? I hope not America either domestically or internationally.

shorbe

[anhnonymous]

At 8/31/01 10:36 AM, shorbe wrote: anhonymous: What are you using as your reference point for freedom? I hope not America either domestically or internationally.

shorbe

Both...and your point is...that you want to leave the country?

[Slizor]

Both...and your point is...that you want to leave the country?

Historical Reference:The Red Hunt

[LaserBeamBandit]

If they were rich, yea they would have multiple wives but they wouldn't work in the field.

[shorbe]

anhonymous: America is anything but free and its foreign diplomacy is a joke. It's not about freedom. It's about profits.

shorbe

[anhnonymous]

At 9/8/01 10:56 AM, shorbe wrote: anhonymous: America is anything but free and its foreign diplomacy is a joke. It's not about freedom. It's about profits.

shorbe

America is more free than any other country that I can think of except the european countries. They don't give a rat's ass about anything over there so I can't take them into account. Of course its has to do with profits but that's just part of being a capitalist country.

[wdfcverfgtghm]

At 9/8/01 01:23 PM, anhnonymous wrote:

At 9/8/01 10:56 AM, shorbe wrote: anhonymous: America is anything but free and its foreign diplomacy is a joke. It's not about freedom. It's about profits.

shorbe

America is more free than any other country that I can think of except the european countries. They don't give a rat's ass about anything over there so I can't take them into account. Of course its has to do with profits but that's just part of being a capitalist country.

Freedom Does not mean, the best of what we have now. We're not free, but it's the best we have so far. Strive to make it right, It's the eternal Quest for Utopia. We will never get there, but once we stop, we no longer are.

[Pecos]

At 8/13/01 12:56 PM, GameboyCC wrote: It's true, Americans act superior to third world countries. Why do you think we were in Kosovo? We think we're the world's policeman! This mentality goes all the way back to Korea and Vietnam, we got our boys ( Note: I say boys because most of them are under legal adulthood age) killed for no good reason! I guess Saddam should know all about that, shouldn't he?

That is so not true! The reason U.S. acts like the world's policeman is for investment purposes - it's all politically motivated. If US helps people in Kosovo, when time comes to pick a side between US and their enemy.. Kosovo will most likely side with the Americans, who came to their aid in the past. When US helped Kuwait defend itself against Iraq, it's not because Americans are just nice guys, or think that they're the world cop.. they're there to protect their investment - oil.

Vietnam isn't even worth talking about, that topic has been beaten to death so many times. And Americans know that was one of their biggest fuck ups.

[Done1done1done]

At 9/8/01 01:36 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote:

At 9/8/01 01:23 PM, anhnonymous wrote:

At 9/8/01 10:56 AM, shorbe wrote: anhonymous: America is anything but free and its foreign diplomacy is a joke. It's not about freedom. It's about profits.

shorbe

America is more free than any other country that I can think of except the european countries. They don't give a rat's ass about anything over there so I can't take them into account. Of course its has to do with profits but that's just part of being a capitalist country.

Freedom Does not mean, the best of what we have now. We're not free, but it's the best we have so far. Strive to make it right, It's the eternal Quest for Utopia. We will never get there, but once we stop, we no longer are.

Damn Penguin, you made me do some thinking. I shouldn't get philosophical in the Political Board, but I will anyways. Maybe freedom is the liberation of ourselves from ourselves, if that actually happens at death. If we just cease to exist, then there's no liberation, nothing. We've already reached freedom if that's the case. However, if there is liberation from ourselves, then that's the ultimate freedom, liberation from actual life, like Nirvana or something.

[Pecos]

At 9/10/01 11:06 AM, Wheatonman wrote: Damn Penguin, you made me do some thinking. I shouldn't get philosophical in the Political Board, but I will anyways. Maybe freedom is the liberation of ourselves from ourselves, if that actually happens at death. If we just cease to exist, then there's no liberation, nothing. We've already reached freedom if that's the case. However, if there is liberation from ourselves, then that's the ultimate freedom, liberation from actual life, like Nirvana or something.

If I may butt in here with my 2 cents on freedom... this is actually somewhat related to my "Utopia" post.

I don't think freedom consists of a person being able to do whatever he/she wants. It's not the ability to do damage to someone and escaping the consequences, and it's not having the freedom to eat as much as you want. Freedom reaches a little bit deeper - as most of our parts of the soul (the spirit as described by Plato) need to be moderated, so must the appetitive part. And stuffing your face with food or kicking someone just for amusement, etc. means letting your Appetitive part take control from the Rational part. So, for you to be trully free, your soul should be free. Your soul is not free if you're letting your appetitive side take over.

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At 9/10/01 11:06 AM, Wheatonman wrote:

At 9/8/01 01:36 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote:

At 9/8/01 01:23 PM, anhnonymous wrote:

At 9/8/01 10:56 AM, shorbe wrote: anhonymous: America is anything but free and its foreign diplomacy is a joke. It's not about freedom. It's about profits.

shorbe

America is more free than any other country that I can think of except the european countries. They don't give a rat's ass about anything over there so I can't take them into account. Of course its has to do with profits but that's just part of being a capitalist country.

Freedom Does not mean, the best of what we have now. We're not free, but it's the best we have so far. Strive to make it right, It's the eternal Quest for Utopia. We will never get there, but once we stop, we no longer are.

Damn Penguin, you made me do some thinking. I shouldn't get philosophical in the Political Board, but I will anyways. Maybe freedom is the liberation of ourselves from ourselves, if that actually happens at death. If we just cease to exist, then there's no liberation, nothing. We've already reached freedom if that's the case. However, if there is liberation from ourselves, then that's the ultimate freedom, liberation from actual life, like Nirvana or something.

I think you missed my point. When I said "we no longer are" I didn't mean that we are dead. I meant that it is the nature of us as homo-sapien to improve ourselves. The etneral struggle to make everything right, the perfect utopia, is not learned but innate. If we are to sit in apathy and say "I no longer care", then We are no longer human.