The Many Kirbies Collab
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I think most parts here have got their own sense of humor:
Bomb: I seriously cannot describe this kind of lolz, neither do I enjoy it that much, But I know people who enjoy it, and I know some will enjoy it
UFO: The surprise here is great, its just that quick "surprise-lolz" (I wouldnt say I laughed out loud, but it made me smile, I guess the mission is achieved then no?)
Parasol: Its really that kind of "violence-lolz" its definitely not my style, but I can see people enjoying such part
Drill: Im not the one to say, since im fairly biased, But I love "pun-lolz", mainly because in its simpleness, as long as you understand it you should at least smile, even if they are cheesy ("screw you" :P), in their own little cheesiness they crack me up
Cutter: Here you got a great "graphical-lolz", the expressions at the end are great
Spaghetti: same as bomb
Magic: "Memory-lolz", someone who doesnt have a rabbids game (or at least played it quite a lot) will "meh" over it, but anyone who knows them will laugh, because they remember playing with the rabbids, and the rabbids are just hilarious in their mind
Cook: Lots of lolz here, you got "Memory-lolz" on the ginger part and on the whole part and "Graphical-lolz" on the nuts part
Yup, I just invented all these "lolz" terms, but you get my point, I wouldnt say theres one part here that is completely un-enjoyable, neither will I say theres one part that is funny to everyone...
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At 11/3/10 12:47 PM, JPB wrote: Yup, I just invented all these "lolz" terms, but you get my point, I wouldnt say theres one part here that is completely un-enjoyable, neither will I say theres one part that is funny to everyone...
I have to agree with you. Every part has it's own kind of humor. Either you like it, or you don't.
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Bomb Kirby has absolutely awful animation, or whatever that first one was. The rest looks good, other from that, I'm going to re-do the menu and see if you guys like it. The current one looks really noobish, as if the creator of this collab had absolutely no experience in making menus whatsoever and made this ab... you know what, you probably get it already...
Also, I'm not sure if I'm going to finish Fighter Kirby,
http://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/59c8 326d36c3b5b85f1851330ed1c3ab
Tell me if you like it so far...
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At 11/3/10 11:37 AM, StalkerGuy wrote: UFO Kirby didn't impress me all that much (don't know why, I just didn't see anything interesting with it)
I like how it had the perfect cliches of an alien invasion. The waddle dees running and screaming hysterically, one of them holding up another who we could assume was close to him/her. Kirby's unchanging expression, followed by a close-up at the end was probably what did it for me.
and I didn't really think that drill kirby was funny,
It wasn't funny, it was punny. ;)
Although I kinda wish it ended more cleverly, I did like how he had three minor characters joke around like real friends. Establishing a mood before something insane happens.
Like what could have been changed was like in spaghetti kirby, when he sucks in that princess (or what ever that is) it could have been anything else like Justin Bieber or something because that's what the pop culture usually laughs at today. I mean, you have to make some fun of the pop culture and allow SOME memes. Like in psychofigs Cook Pot kirby part, I laughed because I understood it because I had watched the slap-chop videos and stuff. You just have to look how series like south park or collage humor get their views. Because they are parodying popular things that people laugh at.
Putting humor into your creations is easier said than done. There is no "right" humor, just people who approve of it. Me, I like when you know something is gonna happen, but then something outrageous and unimaginable happens instead. Think of random humor, but with a plot and a mood to back it up. I also like when people imagine something from the broader culture and put it into a new light, or perspective. This is often done in the Brawl in the Family comics, as a good example. But slapping something like Justin Bieber getting killed is just the easy way out.
Besides, you know who else makes fun of Justin Bieber? Seventh graders.
South Park's demographic is mostly children hoping to see Kenny get killed again and see Cartman rip on jews and gingers, but the creators realized that they were kind of reusing the same jokes and general humor, so they broadened their shows to have plots dealing with people and things in the real world, but in a much more satirical way. Watch just about any episode after the fourth season, and this is what you'd find.
I've yet to see College Humor take on the "satirical" view in their videos. They seem content with taking things that we're already making fun of, and trying their best at it too. Look at We Didn't Start the Flame War. It shows us what internet flaming is really like, so that people can see how ridiculous they sound. Not exactly new territory, it's just something people haven't done that well beforehand. They also made it a musical, using the old but popular "We Didn't Start the Fire" as basis for the lyrics.
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Yo jfig, Flashfire wants me to tell you that he's not comfortable with you making or redoing any kind of menu. I don't recall there ever being a menu in this collab, so I don't know what you guys are talking about. But I'm sure with some real sweettalk, you could get permission.
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Gustavos is right on. Subtleties are much funnier and unlock certain parts of the unconcious. Rather than being greatly dependent on memes for comedy, which is an example of why comedy itself is going down hill. I think we should look at the current collab for how funny it really is. Cook kirby is hillarious, and I don't have a problem with any of them. Besides, humor is largely opinion. Pesonally I'd rather see work in different context than memes. Didn't we learn something from the 2000's? Anyway great job on the collab so far. FlashfireEX also fix the spelling of Rotisserie on spagetti collab. (I didn't spell it right.) lol. and forgive my spelling I am in a rush and spelled atleast ten words wrong.
btw: UFO kirby= my fav.
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Um i can finish my tornado kirby flash this week because i am going on vacation. So it will be most likely to be finished friday. also i might make two parts
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At 10/25/10 05:48 PM, JPB wrote: PART LIST UPDATE
cuz no one wants to do it D:<
FFEX - Freeze
JPB - Drill
AniHarvs - Angel
Eastbeast - ???
Psychofig - Fighter
Simpleanimator - Fire (?)
pshychofig - cook
Torkirby - Stone
Jacco - UFO
OutcastLabs's:
Parasol
Cutter
Magic
i love jacco's part
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At 11/5/10 03:56 PM, scottwjsm wrote:At 10/25/10 05:48 PM, JPB wrote:
i love jacco's part
Indeed it is truely funny
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VOET
mine is subject to change at any point of time without notification
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At 11/5/10 10:54 PM, Psychofig wrote: VOET
mine is subject to change at any point of time without notification
Talk about adding useless gimmicks to a flash that you don't need. I mean no offense guys, but do you actually see people changing the colour of that tab during the flash?
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At 11/6/10 08:07 PM, Budge007 wrote:At 11/5/10 10:54 PM, Psychofig wrote: VOETTalk about adding useless gimmicks to a flash that you don't need. I mean no offense guys, but do you actually see people changing the colour of that tab during the flash?
mine is subject to change at any point of time without notification
Agreed. It would only get confusing.
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That's what I said to FlashFire, but again, he's the leader, if it were me, I'd have it at like Alpha 30-50 not selected and just 80 or 90 when active, with no color change options.
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At 11/6/10 11:18 PM, Psychofig wrote: That's what I said to FlashFire, but again, he's the leader, if it were me, I'd have it at like Alpha 30-50 not selected and just 80 or 90 when active, with no color change options.
It is 25 when not changed. Did you even CHECK the updated one? One and yes, I'm unbanned.
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At 11/7/10 11:06 AM, FlashfireEX wrote:At 11/6/10 11:18 PM, Psychofig wrote: That's what I said to FlashFire, but again, he's the leader, if it were me, I'd have it at like Alpha 30-50 not selected and just 80 or 90 when active, with no color change options.It is 25 when not changed. Did you even CHECK the updated one? One and yes, I'm unbanned.
You're not tough.
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At 11/7/10 01:25 PM, Psychofig wrote: You're not tough.
But I AM in charge of this Collab and really need to start recognizing that.
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Oh crap guys. The argument between FF and Jfig has made me realize we're all seventh graders again! The school lunches are more expensive but not tastier! The talent show was cancelled! My crush laughed in my face after learning about my feelings for her! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Seriously guys, I may only know FF's side of the story, but you gotta quit this petty rivalry. As if either of you have something to prove. We're all disgruntled with the lack of devoted animators. No reason to start acting like a bunch of posers. Now kiss and makeup.
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At 11/7/10 01:56 PM, Gustavos wrote: Oh crap guys. The argument between FF and Jfig has made me realize we're all seventh graders again! The school lunches are more expensive but not tastier! The talent show was cancelled! My crush laughed in my face after learning about my feelings for her! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You're not my friend anymore! Loljk. Yeah, that's true. We should all start working more together on this. I mean, it's gonna turn out great.
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At 11/7/10 01:31 PM, FlashfireEX wrote:At 11/7/10 01:25 PM, Psychofig wrote: You're not tough.But I AM in charge of this Collab and really need to start recognizing that.
Leader or not, your popup thing still looks horrible and it's not my fault that you're too ignorant to even consider changing it. This is why your collaboration is failing, because you think you can handle it and produce something good, but withoutour help, you can't.
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At 11/7/10 02:03 PM, Psychofig wrote:But I AM in charge of this Collab and really need to start recognizing that.Leader or not, your popup thing still looks horrible and it's not my fault that you're too ignorant to even consider changing it. This is why your collaboration is failing, because you think you can handle it and produce something good, but withoutour help, you can't.
The Collab ISN'T failing at all, you idiot. My GUI It doesn't look horrible, you're just pissed off because YOU didn't get to do it. Now just shut up and deal with it. Also, this IS a Collaboration so I'm obviously not doing it by myself, but I DID agree to do the menu and GUI so I am. That I CAN handle and I think everyone else can agree with that.
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At 11/7/10 02:03 PM, Psychofig wrote: you think you can handle it and produce something good, but withoutour help, you can't.
jfig, if you can make a full-length Kirby Collab all by yourself without anybody elses help, I'll be impressed.
What I mean is your logic is a bit flawed. A collab is all about teamwork. There are no lone wolves. You don't step up and make things for the collab just so you can be better than everybody else, you do it because you want the collab to succeed. I know the idea of taking over this collab sounds fun, but there's no time for a revolution. Dig?
Jfig, stop trying to start some great Crusades when you're the only one willing to participate. Flashfire, I don't need to tell you to stop being an indecisive and stubborn leader.
And I want both of you to quit being so Canadian. It's bad for your health. ;)
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You guys seem to be missing the point. Under any circumstance I would admit to being wrong due to people not sharing my vision, but this collab has had quite a few original skits contributed and I want it to succeed as a whole. I just don't think FlashFire appreciates what people have contributed and he hasn't really paid us a whole bunch of respect by not letting us contribute into the whole production of this. The reason I wanted to lead this is because I want it to be done, finished, so we can have something out when we said we would. All we have now is a chain of broken promises and delays to the point where Flashfire is starting to remind me of the creators of Gran Turismo 5 (bazinga!) and I'd like to see anybody in this collab really put in there all to get it done or just quit now. Most of you consider this as a side project, but doing so really undermines the point fo this, and that is to improve upon TKC.
If you can't treat this collaboration as something from the heart and just a liddle side sache, it's never going to do well. You get out as much as you put in, so if you want to make a part, get right to it, and if you're going to make a part, add quality. You can rush a bit and still maintain good quality, all you need is determination.
But as long as there is no pressure put on people in this collab, we're all going to keep fighting and not make any progress. So set a due date, kick people out who can't make it, and damn it, meet the due date. FlashFire, if you can't do it, I will.
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Fine. Deadline is November 21st. This is NOT when the Collab will be submitted, it is the point where I will reject all unfinished parts. Exceptions may be granted on certain occasions.
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November 21st? I thought we were slating for the middle of December? Or perhaps January so that people can use up their Winter breaks. Where I live, we even have a week long Thanksgiving break, but that starts on the 20th.
Flashfire, I can bust my ass long enough to make a full length part before the 21st. But I honestly doubt the other members have the same luxury and devotion. Jfig is right about one thing. If we're not planning on topping the Kirby Collab, then we're not doing our job right. Quality is something that takes time. And frankly, I'm not willing to work either for a collab that isn't planning on reaching it's full potential.
Quick Poll: Whoever's still in this and ready to take it to the top should say "aye".
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At 11/8/10 10:41 PM, Gustavos wrote:Quick Poll: Whoever's still in this and ready to take it to the top should say "aye".
aye!
But I don't actually know what to do. Should I improve my part (UFO) in any way?
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Jacco, your part was perfect.
Nothing in it needs to be improved!
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At 11/7/10 02:21 PM, Gustavos wrote: if you can make a full-length Kirby Collab all by yourself without anybody elses help, I'll be impressed.
.... no seriously... I may have just found my summer project!
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At 11/8/10 10:41 PM, Gustavos wrote: And frankly, I'm not willing to work either for a collab that isn't planning on reaching it's full potential.
Quick Poll: Whoever's still in this and ready to take it to the top should say "aye".
What are you saying? Are you saying it's too early? I thought everyone was complaining about it too late. I would MUCH RATHER have it for December but Fig keeps bugging me about it being too late. I WANT this to top the Kirby Collab. You seem to know how we can manage that, please explain. :)
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AYE!
I never said its too late.
Now heres my opnion on all this, as resumed as possible
1. Flashfire can handle it, With our help, and fig isn't any more capable than flashfire
2. Fig, If you dont like flashfires thingy, then tell him what you like, tell him what you dont, or even offer yourself to work on it, but dont just do it thinking "flashfire cant do it"... flashfire changed it and it looks better than yours and his old one...
3. teamwork, flashfire's job is to handle most of the interface menu stuff, but that doesnt mean he has to do it all by himself, neither that means fig should do it all by himself
4. Gustavos is right, this is 7th grade all again...
5. Proposed schedule (I'd like to see if everyone agrees or if anyone has some suggestions for it):
5.1. November 30th - Start Work on Menu
5.2. December 20th OR January 5th - Final Deadline
5.3. In both cases, start final preparations for submission by the 5th (co-authoring, credits)
5.4. From then onwards, we search for the best day for submission
Now of course the schedule is bound to change, these dates dont have to be those, but arround those, and here's why I think so:
5.5.1. We'll submit after the Christmas craze
5.5.2. Christmas is one of the holidays with most submissions here on ng, so people will probably want to finish their parts soon, so they can get working on their Christmas watevers
5.5.3. No one will want to work like crazy on the middle of the holidays, so this should also encourage people to finish their parts faster as well
5.5.4. It gives everyone time to make some kick-ass parts
Anyone who agrees with me, say "Agreed!" or some shit like that
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agreed or some shit like that
The point is that nit-picking is pretty much counter productive. In my artist and comedic opinion, this collab is already shaping up better than the previous. However giving a certain dispostion to not liking something and not offering any reasons for improvement is someone trying to define their ego. in anycase, there should be less ego and more teamwork. (Unlike 7th graders.)


