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At 6/23/10 06:39 PM, ProffesorCrumpets wrote: Ah another trustafarian middle class white boy feeling hating towards his own race your really not the first mate.

I am simply questioning why I can't feel pride in my race. But if you want to go ahead and play the grouping game, I can do that for you. You're just another asshole with a big mouth who talks shit. You are most certainly not the first to do that, mate.

You fail to mention the several terrorist groups from black and asian backgrounds

I question why I should have pride in being a white guy, and you say I failed to think about black and asian terrorists groups... You're a retard.

you fail to grasp the cruelty of African and Asian leaders in the past and the ones that still live today.

Once again, that has nothing to do with the topic. You completely missed the point. I'm saying why should I have pride in being a white person, and you're getting all smart with me and telling me there are cruel black and asian leaders... What does that have to do with white pride? Tell me, if I was questioning having my car serviced at my usual auto mechanic, would you say I failed to mention that Wendy's has square burgers? See what I did there? Get it? Square burgers have nothing to do with my car... asshole.

You fail to understand that without white people ethnic minorities wouldn't even be in the western world.

I think by now you realize what a horse's ass you really are.

You fail to note that the greatest inventions and discovories ever have all been done by white people.

You're right. I failed to mention the good things white people have done. I definately went into this issue with some negative thinking. By the way... I found this quote from Ben Franklin, the man I should be so proud of because he gave us awesome inventions...

Ben Franklin: "Why increase the sons of Africa by planting them in America, where we have an opportunity, by excluding all blacks and tawneys, of increasing the lovely whites."

All in all you fail, im not bashing on any other ethnicity i think you should be proud of who you are and where you come from be you black white or fucking purple every race has had good and bad times you can highlight all these things.

Well, I think I proved that if the issue was your dick, you would be pissing all over the place because you did not get a very good grasp on it... How about next time you plan on being a cock master, you read more carefully. You made yourself look really fucking stupid, especially since you thought you were being really fucking smart.

At 6/23/10 09:34 PM, XxRobJohnsonxX wrote:

At 6/23/10 09:29 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: a poorly constructed rebuttal

When you quote each statement and must respond to it separately you appear immature and childish.

What is accepted in society is debate.
In debate, you address the entirety of the argument posed by your peer.
You do not interrupt him after every sentence to pick apart his point before he can even make it.
Things get taken out of context, and you make yourself appear ignorant.

You're an idiot. You are defending a person who has no point to make. I'm talking about white pride, and he's trying to tell me I fail because I didn't mention asian terrorists groups...

But nevermind that...

Who the fuck are you with your rules? I have to do things your way, or else I'm childish and ignorant? I addressed each of his poorly thought out statements individually because I find it easier that way. You sound like a real twit trying to school me on making proper rebuttals... There is no right or wrong way to do it, so bite me.

If anyone is interested, here is the full Ben Franklin quote.

Why should the Palatine boors [the Germans] be suffered to swarm into our settlements, and by herding together establish their language and manners to the exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a colony of aliens, who will soon be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our anglifying them, and will never adopt our language or customs, any more than they can acquire our complexion.

Which leads me to one remark: That the number of purely white people in the world is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawney. And in Europe the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes are generally of what we call a swarthy complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only being excepted, who with the English make up the principal body of white people on the face of the earth. I could wish their numbers increased. While we are scouring our planet by clearing America of woods, and so making our side of the planet reflect a brighter light to the inhabitants of Mars or Venus, why should we in the sight of superior beings darken its people? Why increase the sons of Africa by planting them in America, where we have an opportunity, by excluding all blacks and tawneys, of increasing the lovely white and red."

At 6/23/10 09:34 PM, XxRobJohnsonxX wrote:

At 6/23/10 09:29 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: a poorly constructed rebuttal

When you quote each statement and must respond to it separately you appear immature and childish.

I thought he sounded thorough and owned that other guy.

What is accepted in society is debate.

What society is debate accepted in? There are many societies and debate isn't allowed in quite a few of them.

In debate, you address the entirety of the argument posed by your peer.

I intend to do that one line at a time ;)

You do not interrupt him after every sentence to pick apart his point before he can even make it.

I read your points before responding. They were received in their proper context.

Things get taken out of context, and you make yourself appear ignorant.

Maybe he appeared ignorant to you, but I believe its the consensus that decides the winner in the NG environment.
Also, what relevant material did you bring to the thread? So far I see an attempt at a funny picture and douchebaggery. Does the thread's topic even matter to you or are you just surfing for people to pick on? Are you trying to be a troll are you just a rude person joining a conversation with nothing to say other than picking on the way someone types?

White power! Rally around me my brothers! I can't say that with a straight face lol

The white man call himself civilized
Cause he know how to take over
The white man come to pillage my village
Now he tell me I have to bend over

- Kill All The White Man by NOFX

I don't see why people distinguish each other by looks, is it so hard to understand that we all are different? It is human to cause shit and misery, not only white people does it.

At 6/23/10 10:04 PM, ertysproductions wrote:

The white man call himself civilized
Cause he know how to take over
The white man come to pillage my village
Now he tell me I have to bend over

- Kill All The White Man by NOFX

I don't see why people distinguish each other by looks, is it so hard to understand that we all are different? It is human to cause shit and misery, not only white people does it.

I'm talking strictly about being a white person, and either having pride or not having pride, and people keep wandering off topic. I'm not talking about racism. This is not supposed to be a thread about hating people for being a different color. It's strictly about white pride issues.

At 6/23/10 10:12 PM, XxRobJohnsonxX wrote:

At 6/23/10 10:03 PM, rahvin-the-vampire wrote:

At 6/23/10 09:34 PM, XxRobJohnsonxX wrote:

At 6/23/10 09:29 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: Oh so much stuff!

I think you made a good point sir. Thanks for explaining it :D

What's a white person?

At 6/23/10 04:49 PM, Scarface wrote: Well, atleast you can pride yourself in the fact that you're not proud of your heritage.

i concur

At 6/23/10 10:12 PM, XxRobJohnsonxX wrote: I was simply attempting to defend the gentleman who was getting insulted simply for posting his beliefs.

His belief was that I failed to mention the cruelty of african leaders. Do you even know what this thread is about, or why I chewed him out? He was being a jerk with not one damn good reason.

With my talk of debate and its application to society, I was merely jesting about how individuals argue on the NG forums like children. Also, when I stated that debate is accepted in society, I would be referring to the college courses with the title "Debate." (As opposed to the ones titled "Lets have a piss and shit contest")

So he can be a jerk, but when I defend myself, you call me childish, and you defend him?

No wonder you're on his side, you suck at life too.

Also, let us not forget that this is indeed Newgrounds. Not everyone comes here to talk srs bzness.

It's not like the guy passed through and made a fart joke. He tried to tell me I failed because I didn't bring up foreign terrorist groups in a discussion strictly about white pride in America. He was serious.

And as a final note, I would like to point out that I think that the people in this thread are on an unusually short fuse. (even for immature NG standards)

Would you just get real? You came on my thread with absolutely nothing to contribute except some douche-bag comments. You tried to school me on making proper rebuttals like a King shit, and now the only explaination you can come up with for why I just want you to shut the fuck up is that I'm immature. Just get lost already, before I make you my bitch.

At 6/23/10 10:53 PM, Stereocrisis wrote:

At 6/23/10 10:12 PM, XxRobJohnsonxX wrote:

I just want you to shut the fuck up is that I'm immature. Just get lost already, before I make you my bitch.

Oh, those white people...

Ironically, there isn't anything wrong with "White Pride." Just sounds weird. too me. And not because of the representation, but more so I've just never heard anyone actually use it.

Pride is being proud of something...or a group of lions.

"White Power" is a totally different meaning. Every race has had and has it's bad representations and bad things to happen throughout history. Even some more than others, but being proud of the good a race or more importantly an individual has done in the world is ok. Nothing wrong with that.

Fuk dat sht!! i be prod uv my herratig evn if i b whiet!

WHITE POWAAA!

It's not like blacks, indians, asians, anyones never did stupid shit to their own/other races in the course of history, either. I mean, Africa's gone though like 3 genocides, native americans would routinely fuck each other up just to establish pockets of dominance, and asia...well, shit, that should be more obvious. The point is, black pride, indian pride, asian pride, white pride, it all seems bad from an introspective view, considering ALL RACES have done shit to be ashamed of, but without pride, even at a personal level, for the color of our skin and what ethnicity we identify with, we'd be a bunch of listless emo fucks.

At 6/23/10 11:03 PM, XxRobJohnsonxX wrote: So that's how we are going to do things, I suppose.

Here we go... The beginning of making you my bitch.

I don't care what your reasoning is. You are a fuck. end of story.
When you resort to insults to "strengthen" your argument you are doing quite the opposite.

You kind of contradict yourself there MB. (my bitch)

On his side? Try I'm just not on your side. You are nothing more than a potty-mouthed, borderline aspergers, moron who also happens to be strongly opinionated.

Can I just mention at this point that you called me a fuck and a potty-mouth in the same breath? and you STILL have nothing relevant to post on my thread... You didn't touch on the subject once MB.

And you responded with insults. way to go. "I'm right because you are a poopoohead."

You might want to go back and read what he said to me before questioning why I called him an asshole and a retard. Besides, I AM right, and you would know I'm right if you didn't have your head up your ass.

Am I on Punk'd right now?
okay... Where's Ashton?

If you want to qq about something, but can't take criticism like an adult, maybe you should be the one "getting real"

You still haven't posted anything useful in my thread.

If everyone agrees with what YOU have to say, there is no discussion, and hence no point in posting a thread about it.

No shit.

In the "real" world people disagree with you. When you get overly defensive about it you come off as a complete ass.

Can I just say that you are officially my bitch now?

I'll break it down in simple terms because you still have no clue what happened.

I posted a thread about white pride.
He told me I failed because I didn't mention asian and african terrorist groups.
He was being a jerk about it, and trying to act all smart.
I told him that wasn't even the issue. White pride has nothing to do with foreign terrorist groups.

At that point you jumped in for reasons unknown and started this bullshit.

So, in closing. FUCK OFF!!!!!

How about vikings? they were the biggest assholes back in their days. But no scandinavian is not proud of that heritage. suck my dick self hating bitch.

I think that if a black man can call me a cracker I can call him whatever I want, and if a bitch is being racist, its being racist no matter what race that person is

At 6/23/10 11:40 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: So, in closing. FUCK OFF!!!!!

If I understand RobJohnson correctly, I believe he's calling you out on your ad hominems and unneeded hostility. You have all the right in the world to defend yourself, but you don't have a right to stray from civility and if you do, don't be surprised when you get called out on it. Just because someone is hostile to you doesn't mean that you have free reign to insult the person to no end. You still have the responsibility to act like an adult by refraining from using immature phrases such as "you are my bitch" and by remaining calm and collected.

Contrary to what you have stated, you can't just do whatever you want and still have it be socially acceptable. You don't have to treat the guy like your best buddy, but what we're expecting from you is not deference, but rather civility. Quite frankly, your inordinately sardonic and unappreciated, immature insults really are not understandable being that this is a casual internet discussion. Why would have to you result to calling someone your bitch and other uncalled for commentary when all this started as was a simple misunderstanding of your meaning? If you're confident with your point, then a simple articulation of it would suffice. The additional aggressiveness actually destroys the credibility of anything you have to say.

And furthermore, if you don't want someone to derail your thread, then the mature thing to do would be to just not reply.

At 6/24/10 12:03 AM, Violent-LJ wrote: I think that if a black man can call me a cracker I can call him whatever I want, and if a bitch is being racist, its being racist no matter what race that person is

Well that had nothing insightful referring to the topic...at all, but thanks.

Why don't you go watch Pee Wee's Big Adventure and stop bothering me. This thread was about issues concerning white pride until you showed up and started being a faggot.

I'm sorry, but what is this thread about now?
Don't recall it about being racial stereotypes.

At 6/24/10 12:07 AM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

At 6/23/10 11:40 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: So, in closing. FUCK OFF!!!!!

If I understand RobJohnson correctly, I believe he's calling you out on your ad hominems and unneeded hostility. You have all the right in the world to defend yourself, but you don't have a right to stray from civility and if you do, don't be surprised when you get called out on it. Just because someone is hostile to you doesn't mean that you have free reign to insult the person to no end. You still have the responsibility to act like an adult by refraining from using immature phrases such as "you are my bitch" and by remaining calm and collected.

Contrary to what you have stated, you can't just do whatever you want and still have it be socially acceptable. You don't have to treat the guy like your best buddy, but what we're expecting from you is not deference, but rather civility. Quite frankly, your inordinately sardonic and unappreciated, immature insults really are not understandable being that this is a casual internet discussion. Why would have to you result to calling someone your bitch and other uncalled for commentary when all this started as was a simple misunderstanding of your meaning? If you're confident with your point, then a simple articulation of it would suffice. The additional aggressiveness actually destroys the credibility of anything you have to say.

And furthermore, if you don't want someone to derail your thread, then the mature thing to do would be to just not reply.

What is this anyway? A witch hunt? This guy right here jumped into a conversation that he wasn't part of and started telling me this and that like it was his business. Furthermore, some other guy agreed with me and told him off. He then told us both we were immature. So, if he wants to be a nosey and snotty little kike, then I have every right to tell him to fuck off.

At 6/24/10 12:14 AM, Stereocrisis wrote: Why don't you go watch Pee Wee's Big Adventure and stop bothering me. This thread was about issues concerning white pride until you showed up and started being a faggot.

Issues concerning homophobia...

At 6/24/10 12:21 AM, San7a wrote:

At 6/24/10 12:14 AM, Stereocrisis wrote: Why don't you go watch Pee Wee's Big Adventure and stop bothering me. This thread was about issues concerning white pride until you showed up and started being a faggot.

Issues concerning homophobia...

yea, you know what, I'm not even going to lie. I'm pretty disturbed by this guy being such a queer that at the age of 22 he is still watching pee wee's playhouse, okay?

nice trolling OP but seriously folks:

YOU WERE BORN THE WAY YOU WERE. YOU DID NOT DO ANYTHING SPECIAL. YOUR SKIN COLOR OR THE COUNTRY YOU WERE BORN IN. MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. NO SHOULDN'T HAVE PRIDE JUST BECAUSE YOU CAME OUT WHITE IN AMERICA INSTEAD OF SOME AIDS INFESTED SHITHOLE IN ANGOLA. TAKE PRIDE IN YOUR ACTIONS, NOT YOUR PREDETERMINED BEGINNINGS.