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random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 02:57:36 Reply

I was in a very altered state of mind (lol) while watching nuclear bomb detonation video. It's a simulation, but real enough.

At :21 seconds is when the shockwave hits the camera.

Just for the sake of the question i'm going to ask; consider the postion of the camera a human being looking at the explosion.

Would a person standing in that position at :21 seconds die instantly when that shockwave hits them? I googled the effects of nuclear bombs on humans for about ten minutes and couldn't find anything that satisfied me. There's no simulation or raw footage in which there's a human model showing the effects of the blast.

The only thing I really found is that the sudden change of air pressure makes people die. I want to know what the body will LOOK LIKE when that happens. Does the body move in every direction and get vaporized? Like when that pressure shockwave hits you, do you basically shake around violently and maybe die within 5 seconds?

/random as fuck, i know...but seriously.

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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 02:58:36 Reply

.............link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-22tna7KH zI

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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 02:59:39 Reply

Actually the person with the camera will get soon ill.
As what happens who ever was exposed to the bomb. Like the first U.S soldiers who saw/experience the first bomb in White Sands, N.M.
I may be wrong on the first sentence tho.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:00:12 Reply

At 6/20/10 02:57 AM, MisterDielectric wrote: I want to know what the body will LOOK LIKE when that happens.

It's very simple. The force of a shockwave causes your insides to switch places with your outsides.

Imagine a hunk of raw meat.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:02:04 Reply

At 6/20/10 03:00 AM, xports wrote:
At 6/20/10 02:57 AM, MisterDielectric wrote: I want to know what the body will LOOK LIKE when that happens.
It's very simple. The force of a shockwave causes your insides to switch places with your outsides.

Imagine a hunk of raw meat.

I doubt a person would look like raw meat after that.

I'm dead serious, i want answers. real answers

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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:02:48 Reply

At 6/20/10 03:00 AM, xports wrote:
At 6/20/10 02:57 AM, MisterDielectric wrote: I want to know what the body will LOOK LIKE when that happens.
It's very simple. The force of a shockwave causes your insides to switch places with your outsides.

Imagine a hunk of raw meat.

..And actually the person skin can melt off. Especially the eyeballs.
True fact.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:07:18 Reply

At 6/20/10 03:02 AM, MisterDielectric wrote:
At 6/20/10 03:00 AM, xports wrote:
At 6/20/10 02:57 AM, MisterDielectric wrote: I want to know what the body will LOOK LIKE when that happens.
It's very simple. The force of a shockwave causes your insides to switch places with your outsides.

Imagine a hunk of raw meat.
I doubt a person would look like raw meat after that.

I'm dead serious, i want answers. real answers

Actually, you would.

Foregoing the fact that it's a nuclear bomb, and anything in the radius of the shockwave would be vaporized instantly, a "hunk of meat" would be an accurate description. If the shock was strong enough, it would literally cause you to explode.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:09:04 Reply


Foregoing the fact that it's a nuclear bomb, and anything in the radius of the shockwave would be vaporized instantly, a "hunk of meat" would be an accurate description. If the shock was strong enough, it would literally cause you to explode.

Or turn you into ashes,
Like in the Gears of War 3 trailer.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:10:58 Reply

Is this really the best picture google has for atom bomb corpses? Seriously. It's so old.
http://www.japanfocus.org/data/dead%20bo dy.JPG

...I guess the person looks burned to a crisp. Maybe i'm over thinking this. People probably just get seriously burned and shaken around.

I just want to know a few things

1) What the person looks like while directly inside of the blast. (like 5 seconds into it)
2) What they look like afterward
3) hotdug

theres still no good pictures about this at all on the internet

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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:14:02 Reply


1) What the person looks like while directly inside of the blast. (like 5 seconds into it)
2) What they look like afterward
3) hotdug

1) The person will actually be vaporized, there will be no remains of that being.

2)If there far from the blast but yet hit by the wave, their skin can melt off, eyes will also melt. Or the person will turn into ashes like the picture you linked. If there close to the blast, like I said there will be no remains.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:23:31 Reply

At 6/20/10 03:14 AM, AtomicD00M wrote: 1) The person will actually be vaporized, there will be no remains of that being.

Again, vaporized isn't the right word.

Have you ever stood next to a loud speaker? It feels like the air in your lungs is being pushed and pulled back and forth.

That's what a shock does to you, except infinitely times stronger, and it does it throughout your body. The pressure literally blows you apart.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:29:51 Reply

That's what a shock does to you, except infinitely times stronger, and it does it throughout your body. The pressure literally blows you apart.

True, but as I recall there will be no remains. They will "disappear" .
But theres this Japanese girl who survived the bomb and I think she was about 3 - 4 blocks away. I also think shes still alive today, but with health problems of course.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:42:02 Reply

1 (.5 miles) Everything is vaporized:
(98% fatalities) (25 psi overpress) (320 wind)

2 (1 mile) Absolute destruction: All above ground structures are destroyed.
(90% fatalities) (17 psi overpress) (290 mph wind)

3 (1.75 miles) Severe damage: All large-scale buildings, such as factories, collapse.
(65% fatalities) (9 psi overpress) (260 mph wind)

4 (2.5 miles) Severe heat damage: Everything that is flammable burns.
(50% fatalities) (6 psi overpress) (140 mph wind)

5 (3 miles) Severe fire and wind damage: Small-scale buildings, are severely damaged.
(15% fatalities) (3 psi overpress) (98 mph wind)

I've read the above posts, you compare the victims to meat. Meaning their insides are ripped out from inside. (?)

Or they're simply vaporized and turned to dust.

But notice the fatality figure in the .5 mile radius. All people in that zone should be vaporized, right? Yet the 2% survive. How, and what do they look like after the blast?

So apparently this rules out the vaporized idea. Because these 2% of people are still in one piece, correct?

Still not satisfied...

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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:42:23 Reply

At 6/20/10 03:29 AM, AtomicD00M wrote: True, but as I recall there will be no remains. They will "disappear" .

I think we're talking about two different things. You're talking about the nuclear aspect of the bomb. In which case, you'd be right, literally, you'd be vaporized by the heat.

I'm talking about the shockwave, a displacement of air caused by explosions. In the case of a strong enough shockwave, pressure would rapidly build up in a body and cause it to explode.

But theres this Japanese girl who survived the bomb and I think she was about 3 - 4 blocks away. I also think shes still alive today, but with health problems of course.

I'm pretty sure she was much closer than that, because the initial heat from the explosion would have destroyed/melted anything remotely close to the point of impact. But atomic bombs aren't deadly because of shockwaves. They're deadly because of the radiation that spreads for miles. Sure, there were survivors from the bombings, but they experienced extreme radiation poisoning.

In fact, I believe about 300,000 survived the bombings, but, as studies show, are at a VERY higher risk of developing cancer. Babies that were unborn at the time were shown to be shorter and less intelligent than their parents and also developed dis-figurations when born.

Back on topic: Yes, explosions will kill you and whatnot.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:46:23 Reply

Bed time.

What the fuck does that 2% look like...

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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 03:52:34 Reply

the 2% doesn't get vaporized...why?

bed time

lol? why lol?
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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 05:06:36 Reply

At first, you'll get the flash. It will vaporize any life close enough to the bomb and burn of skin of people miles away.
Then, after a while being exposed to powerful radiation, the survivors will be hit by the shock-wave. Depending on your proximity to the zero-point, the closest will die while the rest will get flown several meters away.
The third event, the long term effect, is death following radiation from the nuclear fallout.

If you are interested in seeing the effects of an atomic bomb to living tissue, I recommend you seek up and watch Trinity and Beyond: The Atomic Bomb Movie. It got some clips where they test goats and pigs against atomic bombs.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 05:11:02 Reply

I am pretty sure that the wind and heat that the bomb causes will kill more people than the actual explosion. And, I'm sure the radiation will shorten the lifespan of people over much greater distances. It is truly a horrific weapon.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 07:24:44 Reply

I guess if you're enough to it, all of the watery fluids in your body start boiling and turn into vapor. So I guess your skin would break apart, wouldn't matter which angle the explosion was going from. I don't think you'd be blasted to microscopic pieces, unless you were standing near a wall or something. You might break into a few pieces since you'd become a lot more "crunchy" from losing all the elastic properties the fluids and muscles give you. But I think you could still feel the pain for a second or two. Which would suck.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 07:33:13 Reply

At 6/20/10 07:24 AM, Lorkas wrote: But I think you could still feel the pain for a second or two. Which would suck.

If you're close enough, the flash will be so hot and so energetic it will vaporize your body instantly. You wouldn't feel a thing.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 07:35:42 Reply

At 6/20/10 07:33 AM, ertysproductions wrote:
At 6/20/10 07:24 AM, Lorkas wrote: But I think you could still feel the pain for a second or two. Which would suck.
If you're close enough, the flash will be so hot and so energetic it will vaporize your body instantly. You wouldn't feel a thing.

If you're close enough.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 08:38:55 Reply

Change in air pressure for humans = change in water pressure for fish. If you ever bring up a deep sea fish or a fish in water with high atmospheric pressure, the different pressure change, usually less pressure, causes the fish's internal pressure to be greater than the outside pressure, and hence internal body parts will start to come out of bodily holes, which is why sometimes fishes eyes bloat out or their intestines will come out of their mouth.

So, if pressure change was lower, our pressure would push our organs out. If change was higher, pressure outside would push on our body hard and our body would collapse into itself, or implode.

Either way, the camera man wouldn't be happy.


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 14:59:33 Reply

At 6/20/10 05:06 AM, ertysproductions wrote: Trinity and Beyond: The Atomic Bomb Movie.

Okay, i'll look that up.

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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 15:37:40 Reply

skin would melt/disintegrate.....

eyes would burst

organs would cook then burst

sand would become irradiated glass

nuclear fallout would occur


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Response to random question about nuclear bombs 2010-06-20 15:51:01 Reply

lets just say that you'll explode if you were that close.

wrong place to asking these questions. We arent nuclear bomb testers.

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