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Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-16 21:00:47 Reply

Just go onto YouTube and search that; you'll find a video of the trailer.

What did you guys think of it? I wasn't too thrilled about it for several reasons:
-They did not have a lot of scenes of Link fighting, how violent (violence is good) will this game be?
-The monsters looked stupid with cel-shading. I think cel-shading worked with the toon Link, but with the more adult Link, cel-shading makes it look unnatural and a strain on who the audience is: more mature audiences like those who liked TP, or a younger audience who liked WW?
-The fact that you use the Nunchuk to use the shield. There's only so much you can do, and in other Wii games, the Nunchuk is pretty darn unresponsive. Plus, with the Wii as the sword, is this goodbye to a left-handed Link?

I'm not condemning the game, as it's still in development, but I wasn't too thrilled with it and I don't think I would like it as much as I enjoyed TP.

What do you guys think?

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-16 21:03:48 Reply

TP fanboys can go such a dick with their obsession with the "dark and somber and MATURE" atmosphere.

really.

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-16 21:06:30 Reply

At 6/16/10 09:00 PM, Ranger2 wrote: -They did not have a lot of scenes of Link fighting, how violent (violence is good) will this game be?

'Violence is good'?

This is Nintendo we're talking about there. It's going to be as violent as all the other Zelda games.

-The monsters looked stupid with cel-shading. I think cel-shading worked with the toon Link, but with the more adult Link, cel-shading makes it look unnatural and a strain on who the audience is: more mature audiences like those who liked TP, or a younger audience who liked WW?

Or possibly the audience that liked both of those games. Which would be the majority of Zelda fans.

-The fact that you use the Nunchuk to use the shield. There's only so much you can do, and in other Wii games, the Nunchuk is pretty darn unresponsive. Plus, with the Wii as the sword, is this goodbye to a left-handed Link?

According to previews the motion control as a whole is amazing. And yes it appears Link is now right handed.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-16 22:00:05 Reply

Cell Shading + Choppy Controls = >:C

If you're gonna do Cell Shading, do Wind Waker, but for older link, you just can't do that, especially if the graphical quality suffers.

Wind Waker was a work of art, this... I don't even understand.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-16 23:30:23 Reply

First of all, I've gotta say the graphics are awesome. No more parody of gray-brown "realism" that doesn't even go as far as most actual examples of the trend, but no more kiddy Toon Link and his lighter, softer adventures. It's neither too childish and silly nor too realistic and macho, kinda like the best Zelda games. Certain fandumb can bitch about "Waah it's not just a better-rendered Ocarina of Time" as they might, but I like it.

Second, I'm going to start the fan wank immediately: according to Wikipedia, Link is growing up in a land high in the sky. You know, like the Oocca land in TP? I smell a nod or two to the mythology coming. Indeed, this has a chance to expand the Oocca into a full-fledged race like the Gorons and Zora, provided they weren't one-offs like the Rito.

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-16 23:31:42 Reply

It will probably the only game I buy for the Wii for a long time

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 03:03:42 Reply

If you guys watched E3 you got to see Shigeru Miyamoto demo it but unfortunately it looked quite inaccurate with the motion control.

The graphics were perfect for a Zelda game though, not cartoony bullshit.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 03:13:16 Reply

At 6/17/10 03:03 AM, Slain wrote: If you guys watched E3 you got to see Shigeru Miyamoto demo it but unfortunately it looked quite inaccurate with the motion control.

Apparently there was a shitload of people using infrared devices in that theatre, and that interfered with the motion detecting.

Everything I've read from journalists on the showroom floor has been positive.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 03:26:26 Reply

Twilight Princess was great with Motion Controls

I can't imagine with the improvements they've made it would get worse

Seriously

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 12:08:03 Reply

omg, the second i saw the trailer, and mature cell shade link, all i could say was "No" link looks so stupid, looking realistic and cartoony. its a step backwards from TP, which is my favorite game in the series. I dont see how this could possibly be as good...or maybe i'm wrong. idk but im gonna get it anyways


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 12:19:38 Reply

At 6/17/10 12:08 PM, HappyMango wrote: omg, the second i saw the trailer, and mature cell shade link, all i could say was "No" link looks so stupid, looking realistic and cartoony. its a step backwards from TP, which is my favorite game in the series. I dont see how this could possibly be as good...

Yep, screw the tight gameplay, new dungeons and enemies, and the epic boss battles, if it's cel-shaded, it HAS to be bad!

...You fanboys are all the same. Complaining about ANY small detail, and if it's wrong, you hate it. It's very pathetic. What's wrong with cel-shaded? I just don't understand. I thought you people got over this back in 2003. BOY was I ever wrong.

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 12:23:19 Reply

At 6/17/10 12:19 PM, KeroKeroMario wrote:

Yep, screw the tight gameplay, new dungeons and enemies, and the epic boss battles, if it's cel-shaded, it HAS to be bad!

thats not what i meant, what i mean is that gamers play with their eyes first, and seeing something this ugly will turn anyone off, and the OP said that the controls were gunna be weird, so there goes your "tight gameplay" im still gunna play the game, cuz i mentioned that i might be wrong, but u couldnt leave that in my quote, could you?


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 12:27:21 Reply

At 6/17/10 12:23 PM, HappyMango wrote: thats not what i meant, what i mean is that gamers play with their eyes first, and seeing something this ugly will turn anyone off,

This is why I hate this generation of games.

and the OP said that the controls were gunna be weird, so there goes your "tight controls"

And the game's still got a year and a half left for development. So there goes your opinion.

cuz i mentioned that i might be wrong, but u couldnt leave that in my quote, could you?

I thought it was obvious.

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 13:16:52 Reply

I like the look of it so far. Expecially the faster movement of Link and the overall Tempo of the game. I am worried that they are going to make a stupid gimmick to try and sell the motion control again though. No more gimmicks! (Such as a train, 4 swords, a boat, a musical instrument, a wolf form..)


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 13:20:02 Reply

At 6/16/10 11:30 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: No more parody of gray-brown "realism"

Is this really what people think of TP's graphics now? Because in 2006 everybody praised it: "best graphics and artwork ever", "this is what Zelda should look like", "fantastic atmosphere", etc.

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 13:31:30 Reply

ima buy it, why cause im a zelda fan. so what ever happen ima see if i can return it if i don't like it.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 16:19:53 Reply

At 6/16/10 10:24 PM, psychicpebble wrote:
I was expecting to see a very realistic game with epic gameplay and an epic trailer with graphics equal too or better than Super Mario Galaxy 2. I was stunned at first and said "What is this?" It was a natural reaction because we all had very high hopes and very high standards going into this game.

After watching the trailer and gameplay over and over again I've reassured myself that whatever Nintendo decicedes to do is the smartest thing. With TP everyone what worried about the new motion control. Everyone was worried about the Wii when it first came out and no one was ready for the leap. Everyone was worried about the new Mario Galaxy game.

It probas aint smart to compare thr Zelda games with Mario Galaxy, it was probably one of the gayest games I have ever played. I actually agree with the forum start as i was really dissapointed with the video. They should have kept the twilight princess animation but improved on it. Zelda TP was awesome for its dark story and violence. It was the game that hooked me onto the zelda franchise. So I honestly think that they should just change the fucken style of the game. I wouldnt mind actually waiting abit longer as Im sure it would be better than if it was all rainbows adn giant mushrooms. Its pretty much a gays paradise


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 16:31:02 Reply

At 6/17/10 12:27 PM, KeroKeroMario wrote:

Ur a dick for contradicting peoples opinions.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 16:49:59 Reply

I don't see why the new style would be controversial. It is colorful. Since when did that become a bad thing?

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 18:15:16 Reply

I'm just saying, I'm pretty sure when the trailer was recorded, nobody was using their wireless devices, but there was STILL jittery movement.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 18:23:41 Reply

At 6/17/10 05:21 PM, psychicpebble wrote:
At 6/17/10 04:19 PM, Hozzey wrote: stuff
First of all, improve your grammar so I can understand what you're saying.

Quit acting like a smartass piece of shit. Just because there are some grammar errors doesn't mean you can't read it.

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 18:26:35 Reply

At 6/17/10 04:31 PM, Hozzey wrote: Ur a dick for contradicting peoples opinions.

Yes I am.

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 18:33:37 Reply

At 6/17/10 06:15 PM, squidly wrote: I'm just saying, I'm pretty sure when the trailer was recorded, nobody was using their wireless devices, but there was STILL jittery movement.

Well the game's not out yet. They have plenty of time to refine everything.

On the graphics, these graphics aren't incredible or anything. But the Wii can't do realistic graphics well. Practically the only games I can say look 'good' on the Wii use a cartoony, or a cel-shaded style.

What I'm hoping for this game is that they'll put some emphasis on the story. Twilight Princess was a step in the right direction but it was nowhere near on the level of what I have come to expect from a good modern video game story.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 20:10:04 Reply

Looks like a cross between Wind Waker and TP. Personally could pass on the cel-shaded graphics but whatever. Combat/action looks interesting and innovative like usual of new Zelda games. Personally prefer the darker mood of TP though. I don't care if it's not dark like TP completely, but I don't like the whole "look at me, I'm so bright" approach. A darker approach such as OoT and MM are definately dark enough, even Link to the Past is dark enough. I won't bash the game until I try it at a store. Probably read some reviews. But, the way it looks, I'm not going to rush to get a Wii for it like I thought I was going to.

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 20:50:11 Reply

At 6/17/10 08:32 PM, psychicpebble wrote: If you're cuming all over yourself about the graphics, then don't buy it.

It's not as drastic as the change that Wind Waker had.

Besides, Wind Waker was a good game. This game will be epic, the controls were stunning.

No, no, no, you don't understand.
This isn't Wind Waker cell shaded.
This isn't a work of art.

If you wanted Wind Waker, we'd have a cartoony look, but no, this is REALISTIC cell shaded, which doesn't make too much sense.

Look, adult Link wasn't made for cell shaded, it doesn't fit his style.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-17 20:57:57 Reply

At 6/17/10 08:50 PM, squidly wrote: If you wanted Wind Waker, we'd have a cartoony look, but no, this is REALISTIC cell shaded, which doesn't make too much sense.

You act like this is something that's never been done before.

Though it doesn't look very realistic to me. All the monsters look quite cartoony.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-18 06:55:43 Reply

I gotta say that it looks great to me. Like someone said before me, graphic-wise it seems like a mix between Twilight Princess and The Windwaker. It reminds me of the N64 style, not too cartoony but not too realistic. Very bright and colorful also. It seems perfect to me.

I wouldn't complain about the violence and controls just yet. All we've seen thus far is this 40 seconds trailer which showed only a glimpse of what the game might be like. You might say something about the cell-shaded graphics, but complaining about anything else is just bullshit.

Why would you want a lot of violence in a Zelda game anyway? The main aspects of all the Zelda games are puzzling and exploring. Turning it into a hack n slash game isn't gonna do it any good.

Also 'aiming at mature audiences' is probably the last thing the Zelda series should do ;)


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-18 11:19:58 Reply

Oh my, I've never seen such a display of Zelda fans being divided into two warring opinions since those age old "OoT vs. TP" and "wat is da best Zelduh lololol" arguments.

Guys, calm down. We all watched the trailer and gameplay videos. We all either liked what we saw, didn't like it, or were indifferent by it. Me? I was on the border between indifferent and disliked. But I reviewed the many trailers and videos of the game, and I kind of like it a bit more. It's just that when I saw the trailer to Twilight Princess I was blown away. This game is gonna be the shit, I said. Damn good graphics, updated fighting, and more in the world than just walking around with a sword to your next destination. But in the trailer for this game, I wasn't wowed at all. I still dislike the change back to Cell-shading, and it seemed like the trailer was filled with broken promises.

Broken promises of more realistic graphics (what I, and countless others loved about TP), more updated swordplay (it's the same attacks, except the sword follows your motions inbetween swings, not actually following your swings exactly), and a much older, more mature Link.

Yeah, I'll buy this game. And I'll like it too, but I was anticipating this game long before it was announced, just like anybody else who followed the series. The game isn't finished, and will probably make up for itself with well designed dungeons and boss fights, but I doubt that I, or anyone else, will call this the best Zelda when it comes out.


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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-18 12:05:19 Reply

At 6/18/10 11:19 AM, Gustavos wrote: Oh my, I've never seen such a display of Zelda fans being divided into two warring opinions since those age old "OoT vs. TP" and "wat is da best Zelduh lololol" arguments.

That's what Nintendo does best.
Creating an uprising amongst their people. Make it infamous and famous at the same time.

So when they release it. EVERYBODY buys it, to see if they where wrong or right.

Although I did read somewhere that Miyamoto or whoever, is sick and tired of making Mario/Zelda games.
And FYI. SO AM I. Kinda....I'd like to see some new things? As big as Zelda?

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Response to Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 2010-06-18 12:17:28 Reply

At 6/18/10 12:05 PM, Damien wrote: Although I did read somewhere that Miyamoto or whoever, is sick and tired of making Mario/Zelda games.

He never said that. Ever.