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At 1/3/07 07:15 PM, positively-negative wrote: Well I would have to say my Tele has a great clean sound. Infact I would say that my Tele is a good alround guitar for most situations that it gets involved in and I would be absolutly distrought if anything happened to it as there is no place where I can just go and order a new one as mine went out of production 20 years ago.

Yeah, Telecaster's are nice guitars I haven't played one in years and have kind of forgotten how they play but I will have to and try one out especailly with an amp.

Is your guitar old in a vintage type way cause that would make it cool, like having a history to it, because if it's over 20 years old I am going to asume that it belonged to someone else before you.

At 1/3/07 11:57 AM, candymancan wrote: Alls they do is copy Gibson made guitars, look at all of their work and I'll give you a Gibson that was the first model.

Epiphone copies them because they are a company owned by Gibson. Korean-made guitars.

Doesn't matter, they're still basically hand-me-downs compared to a well made Gibson.

DURR. Of course they're not as nice as a real Gibson, but they're a good alternative and an aight guitar if you're broke.

Everyone should care about the resale value, when you buy a 2,500 dollar guitar you want it to be worth something in a couple of years. I looked until I found a 1960's model Gibson Les Paul until I finally bought something, how is that on a whim?

Not everyone has $2,500, bub. That's why people buy Epiphone. It's a similar guitar with a decent sound that's affordable.

Although I play a Gibson SG myself, the Epiphone is a good alternative. If you have $3000, buy the Gibson. If you don't, buy the Epiphone.

In other news, I think my amp is actually 30 watts, not 80 watts. On the back of the amp, it says "80 watts" and "120 Hz" (or something like that) but I looked up this amp (it's a marshall that they don't sell anymore) and it said 30 watts.

Help?

Welcome back jarrydn

Hey nice idea :P ^^

1)Aria/Gibson les paul rip off ^^

2) Muse

3)5 years and still going happily ^^

At 1/3/07 10:07 PM, candymancan wrote: You have no appreciation for authenticy, or value. That's why you like Epiphone, because it's a cheap hand-me-down of a true Gibson, and it's for people who don't actually appreciate the true value and beauty of an original Gibson made Les Paul.

If a Gibson was 1/5 of the price of an Epiphone, and Epiphone had actually made the original series of the guitars, we'd probably be on different sides of the argument, actually.

Seriously, are you still talking?

Gibsons are better than Epiphones, sure. That doesn't mean that you can't buy an Epiphone. It's not only a good back-up guitar, it's a good primary guitar if you're on a low budget.

At 1/3/07 10:07 PM, Rocker713 wrote: Hey nice idea :P ^^

1)Aria/Gibson les paul rip off ^^

2) Muse

3)5 years and still going happily ^^

Welcome, son.

At 1/3/07 10:01 PM, thatguynamedb0b0 wrote:
In other news, I think my amp is actually 30 watts, not 80 watts. On the back of the amp, it says "80 watts" and "120 Hz" (or something like that) but I looked up this amp (it's a marshall that they don't sell anymore) and it said 30 watts.

Help?

Hehe, lots of people make that mistake. The watts in the back are usually much more than the actual watts, for example, my 12 watt amp says something like 40w on the back. I think the number in the back says how much power the amp uses, not how loud it sounds. the actual number of watts is usually in the amp's model name.

At 1/3/07 10:07 PM, candymancan wrote: You have no appreciation for authenticy, or value. That's why you like Epiphone, because it's a cheap hand-me-down of a true Gibson, and it's for people who don't actually appreciate the true value and beauty of an original Gibson made Les Paul.

Ah. I may have no care for authenticy, come on I own a fake Fender, but I do know value. The Epiphone is for those that cannot afford the Gibson brand due to the cost. It was Les Paul himself who recommended to Gibson to make a budget line of guitars to combat the legendary "Law-suit era" Ibanez's and Tokai's using a company that Gibson had purchased several years before, Epiphone. And I laughed when I saw the words true value of an original Gibson made Les Paul. Please, how can the average Newground's guitarist have the money to afford a "real" Gibson when some of us have difficulty finding the money for new strings.

If a Gibson was 1/5 of the price of an Epiphone, and Epiphone had actually made the original series of the guitars, we'd probably be on different sides of the argument, actually.

Ah well not all guitars made by Epiphone are made by Gibson. Take a look, do Gibson make a compareable version to the Casino or the Alleycat? I think not.

At 1/4/07 06:35 AM, jarrydn wrote:

At 1/4/07 06:31 AM, positively-negative wrote: Take a look, do Gibson make a compareable version to the Casino or the Alleycat? I think not.

Indeed!

And for what they are they are rather good guitars.

And going through the guy's posts. I see he has never officially joined the crew. So in theory we can completely disregard him (which we have already) and tell him to fuck off.

At 1/4/07 12:13 AM, jarrydn wrote: Do you just sit there fuming, with your shiny guitar in your hands, completely unable to play because you're just too wound up over people getting essentially what you have, but for 1/5 of the price?

The kids just bitter :P.
Or he's getting beat up by his parents cause they're bitter they bought the little shit his overpriced block of wood.

Maybe instead of bitching about guitars you should get your arse off of newgrounds and practice some more, leaving us commoners to discuss our cheap, inferior instruments ;)

Speaking of which... should I get some Sperzel's for my Epi?
Also, does anyone know what the best DiMarzio pickup is if I'm looking for a smooth, Petrucci/Vai tone.... I'm thinking of getting the Evolution, but unsure of whether there is a better model, or which model of the Evo to get.
Though I'm definally getting an X2N... I probably correct in thinking that Chuck gets that amazing lead tone from it too? I can't think of how to describe it, whether its Spanishy or Classical or not, but it opens up Within The Mind, and sounds ace :D.

My guitars -

1. Ibanez ICX120
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2. Ibanez GSA60
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3. Vintage Metal Axxe Warp
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Favourite bands
Right now, it's Children of Bodom, but also Metallica, System of a Down, few others like that.

Been playing for about 2 / 3 years.

woo.

At 1/4/07 12:12 PM, Dry-Ice wrote:
woo.

Welcome, we were just discussing how much Epiphone guitars rock. Post a lot or all your base r belong 2 us.

And we'll rape you.

At 1/3/07 06:37 PM, DanAbnormal wrote:

At 1/3/07 06:30 PM, Arcarsenal wrote: That video is pretty cool. Is it not just a pinch harmonic he uses at 1:33.

I don't know about pinch harmonics. Perhaps I should look them up.

Cheers!

I want to develop on this. Who here can do pinch harmonics well? I need some tips.

At 1/4/07 02:54 PM, DanAbnormal wrote:
I want to develop on this. Who here can do pinch harmonics well? I need some tips.

It's actually quite easy, but it's harder in higher notes. Just play a note while touching the string slightly with your pinky and release it at the same time you play the note.
Bending goes great with pinch harmonics too.

im in love with sublime's bass lines....

there freeeekin amaizing

At 1/4/07 03:25 PM, ChocloMan wrote: It's actually quite easy, but it's harder in higher notes. Just play a note while touching the string slightly with your pinky and release it at the same time you play the note.
Bending goes great with pinch harmonics too.

Or you could tell him how to play a real pinched harmonic...

At 1/4/07 04:35 PM, Nev wrote: Or you could tell him how to play a real pinched harmonic...

Isn't a pinch harmonic the same thing as a fake harmonic?

At 1/3/07 10:21 PM, ChocloMan wrote: Hehe, lots of people make that mistake. The watts in the back are usually much more than the actual watts, for example, my 12 watt amp says something like 40w on the back. I think the number in the back says how much power the amp uses, not how loud it sounds. the actual number of watts is usually in the amp's model name.

Uh....

crap.

I still like the amp though. So if I look into a new one (Vox? Another Marshall?), I'll still keep it.

At 1/4/07 03:25 PM, ChocloMan wrote:

At 1/4/07 02:54 PM, DanAbnormal wrote: I want to develop on this. Who here can do pinch harmonics well? I need some tips.

It's actually quite easy, but it's harder in higher notes. Just play a note while touching the string slightly with your pinky and release it at the same time you play the note.
Bending goes great with pinch harmonics too.

I usually find it easier to play them on the higher tones cause I can get a bigger bend there, also I seem to play them alot better when I have my guitar slung low. I'm not sure those two aspects have that much to do with it though. I find that you have to flick the pick downwards very quickly with a very big movement of the wrist. You also have to make it so your nail hits the string and then the pick hits the string, and also do a big bend at the same time. I'm not sure how technically good my technique for doing it is, but it works well for me.

At 1/4/07 04:35 PM, Nev wrote: Or you could tell him how to play a real pinched harmonic...

Is that a pinched harmonic or have I go the wrong name? The effect I was trying to describe for the one on the video. Either way it's a really nice effect to use.

At 1/4/07 06:42 PM, Arcarsenal wrote: I usually find it easier to play them on the higher tones...

Personally I hit them best on the fifth fret, low E string. Third fret, A string. And 14th fret on the G.... or possibly the B. 7th on the G works well too, as does 2nd on the G... I think G may be a good string to practice on... though it could just be my string gauge. And they're a very heavy gauge (11-54).
Heavier gauge owns :D. Suck up the temporary pain and buy them yourself (to everyone :P).

Is that a pinched harmonic or have I go the wrong name? The effect I was trying to describe for the one on the video. Either way it's a really nice effect to use.

Its a pinched harmonic, you were both right. But play them wrong, though yours may be fine if its good for you. Choco was off though. You should've even bring your picking hand into this.
Its played by placing your thumb ever so slightly over the end of the tip of the plectrum. And the trick is for this bit of the skin to hit the string micro-seconds after your pick does. So you are, in essence, pinching it.
Adding vibrato helps, and if you've got a whammy, go crazy :).
More distortion = better results, and use your bridge pickup.
Also, its a case of where to pick the string in terms of distrance from the bridge, so experiment, but its usually between the bridge and nect pickup, but its a case of finding the sweet spot.

A good song as a reference point for pinched harmonics is 'Welcome Home' by Coheed and Cambria. The video will be on YouTube no doubt. Since the entire intro lick (after the acoustic part) is played with some pinched harmonic usage. Though Claudio squeals like a bitch, don't expect results that fine :P.

And Choco, the reason your way of playing is wrong is simply because that technique is more difficult and its chance of working on most notes is weak. Not to mention the fact that you'll sometimes end up dampening the string and cutting the note out completely. And what if you want to play a pinched harmonic at the end of a run that ends using your pinky? You're screwed :).

Hope this makes sense, if not, ask again and I'll make it more specific for your problems.

At 1/4/07 08:04 PM, Nev wrote: And Choco, the reason your way of playing is wrong is simply because that technique is more difficult and its chance of working on most notes is weak. Not to mention the fact that you'll sometimes end up dampening the string and cutting the note out completely. And what if you want to play a pinched harmonic at the end of a run that ends using your pinky? You're screwed :).

Wait, I use my picking hand's pinky, not my fretting hand's. I learned my pinch harmonicing (:P) from a friend, guess he was wrong, but what you said makes sense, I often got accidental pinch harmonics while having my thumb at the tip of the pick. Thanks.

Hey, i am gonna inves in a new amp, and i can get it for 65$ (CHEAP!) Its an Randall-Rx 15, anyone had any experience with it, my old amp blew up : (

At 1/4/07 08:04 PM, Nev wrote: Its a pinched harmonic, you were both right. But play them wrong, though yours may be fine if its good for you. Choco was off though. You should've even bring your picking hand into this.
Its played by placing your thumb ever so slightly over the end of the tip of the plectrum. And the trick is for this bit of the skin to hit the string micro-seconds after your pick does. So you are, in essence, pinching it.
Adding vibrato helps, and if you've got a whammy, go crazy :).
More distortion = better results, and use your bridge pickup.
Also, its a case of where to pick the string in terms of distrance from the bridge, so experiment, but its usually between the bridge and nect pickup, but its a case of finding the sweet spot.

I think I just play it the wrong way round with using the finger nail instead of the thumb nail, so it still gives the same affect and isn't technically wrong.

A good song as a reference point for pinched harmonics is 'Welcome Home' by Coheed and Cambria. The video will be on YouTube no doubt. Since the entire intro lick (after the acoustic part) is played with some pinched harmonic usage. Though Claudio squeals like a bitch, don't expect results that fine :P.

I find that one really hard to play, cause it's on the lower string and I find it hard to play them on the lower strings.

I've realised by trebel pick-up doesn't work, deos anyone know why this could be? Is there anything I could do which might work, or would I just have to take it to a guitar shop.

At 1/4/07 11:33 PM, ChocloMan wrote: Wait, I use my picking hand's pinky, not my fretting hand's. I learned my pinch harmonicing (:P) from a friend, guess he was wrong, but what you said makes sense, I often got accidental pinch harmonics while having my thumb at the tip of the pick. Thanks.

Apologies, I thought you'd learnt from that video that was posted a few pages back, where the guy played pinched harmonics with the pinky of his picking hand. And he was a moron.

At 1/5/07 09:29 AM, Arcarsenal wrote: I think I just play it the wrong way round with using the finger nail instead of the thumb nail, so it still gives the same affect and isn't technically wrong.

Your nail shouldn't even come into it. Its the fleshy part of the thumb.

I've realised by trebel pick-up doesn't work, deos anyone know why this could be? Is there anything I could do which might work, or would I just have to take it to a guitar shop.

Throw it down the stairs... if it doesn't fix it, take it to a shop.

At 1/5/07 04:46 AM, Lagrance wrote: Hey, i am gonna inves in a new amp, and i can get it for 65$ (CHEAP!) Its an Randall-Rx 15, anyone had any experience with it, my old amp blew up : (

I heard Roland amps have bad distortion.

I'm looking into a new amp as well. I've been told to get this, but no suggestions for a cabinet. I'm looking for an amp that costs about $500 give or take. Any suggestions before I go hunting?

Tomorrow I have Region 1 Orchestra tryouts...wish me luck foos.

At 1/5/07 10:08 PM, thatguynamedb0b0 wrote:
I heard Roland amps have bad distortion.

He said Randall :P

I'm looking into a new amp as well. I've been told to get this, but no suggestions for a cabinet. I'm looking for an amp that costs about $500 give or take. Any suggestions before I go hunting?

Ehh, I don't know much about cabs, but a stereo cab would rock with delay and maybe phaser.

Tomorrow I have Region 1 Orchestra tryouts...wish me luck foos.

You're trying out for an orchestra? cool.
Or maybe I'm missing something?