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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:11:52 Reply

Alright.

I understand that football is important to a lot of people in countries across Europe, but I just can not imagine what a coach or captain of a team is supposed to say to a prime minister. "Yes, sorry we lost, we'll try harder next time". I don't really see the point in such a conversation, other than hoping to satisfy/please the Italian and French people who were angry and disappointed with their teams.

Maybe the Italian government can put restrictions on the Serie A clubs, that they have to put more talented Italian players on the field and keep foreign players out, but I don't know if that would really help. Italian clubs would get a serious disadvantage against other European teams that way so...

I don't know, I just don't think the government should spent much time on it and try to meddle with it when they probably don't really know much about it.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:12:05 Reply

That was crazy. It was a great finish to the goal, and it shows that Spanish side aren't exactly going to fall apart like some were pondering. The TV though, kept focus on the celebration. I didn't even see the cards being given, but when the camera moved its area of attention to the incident, the ref seemed to get his cards out... and put them back in his pocket again. Then the commentators stumble and tell us he was sent off! Tough break for Chile, I hope they go through myself. Switzerland were defensive and frankly, unentertaining. Chile-Portugal, for me, would be more appetising. Let's hope Chile keep the closeness in mind.

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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:12:48 Reply

At 6/25/10 03:09 PM, Ismael92 wrote: The Chilean player was sent off because he got two yellow cards :/

Good decision by the ref...now Chile is in deep, deep shit.
I smell raep in the second half.

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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:16:39 Reply

At 6/25/10 03:07 PM, ToddM wrote: It is not that big of a deal. So what if teams can move it is there right and another team will be fonded and takes its place in the city.

It is a big deal in football. A football club's president doesn't have that right, at least not morally or ethically, and that's what sets football apart. How many US players have you ever heard or read say "i was born in this town and this is where i'm from, so i'll play for this town and club as i always have until i can't play any more, and on that day i'll get a staff job here, even if it has to be scraping bubble gum from the stands with a butter knife until i'm 80 years old and die"?

- Nuno Sociedade, about Sport Clube Santa Clara

There is still true passion for the sport and the hometown in football, which makes it an enormous deal.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:20:08 Reply

At 6/25/10 03:12 PM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 6/25/10 03:09 PM, Ismael92 wrote: The Chilean player was sent off because he got two yellow cards :/
Good decision by the ref...now Chile is in deep, deep shit.
I smell raep in the second half.

it would be good IF there was ACTUALLY a foul. Torres just tripped on the goddamn field.

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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:21:08 Reply

At 6/25/10 03:16 PM, C-Hawk wrote:
There is still true passion for the sport and the hometown in football, which makes it an enormous deal.

Some people that I know who went to my high school and turned pro are happy that they do not have return to there hometown and there is not enough talent in any sport where I live.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:26:54 Reply

At 6/25/10 03:03 PM, C-Hawk wrote: A football team represents more than the monetary interests of its owner. It represents a place and a people, [...]

You know, I respect your views and I also share them, but sadly football becomes more and more like US Sports. Just take a look at ManU for example where fans founded the "FC United of Manchester" because they are unhappy with how the club is run.
Or ManCity: A sheik as owner who just pumps money into the club so they can buy all the expensive players (and still they end up only 4th in the premier league. Not a good result compared to how much money they spent...).
Same thing with Chelsea, etc. .

At 6/25/10 03:20 PM, portalwarpedJP wrote: it would be good IF there was ACTUALLY a foul. Torres just tripped on the goddamn field.

Torres was hit in the heel by that Chilean player by accident. But hardly a reason to act like he's been shot.

On the other hand, the Chilean was literally screaming to be sent off the pitch.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:35:59 Reply

At 6/25/10 03:26 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 6/25/10 03:03 PM, C-Hawk wrote: A football team represents more than the monetary interests of its owner. It represents a place and a people, [...]
Just take a look at ManU for example where fans founded the "FC United of Manchester" because they are unhappy with how the club is run.

Mismanagement and dubious sources of income are one thing, but i still think we're a loooooong way from "Lokomotiv Cairo" or "Real Moscow". Spawning more than one team per town is pretty common, but i don't think that (other than Dallas FC moving out of San José, again in the US) there's ever been a football team that was bought and moved.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:37:46 Reply

Chile just scored.

Nice goal, although they were lucky the shot got deflected. But what an incredible amount of space that Chilean offender had.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:37:48 Reply

At 6/25/10 03:35 PM, C-Hawk wrote: Mismanagement and dubious sources of income are one thing, but i still think we're a loooooong way from "Lokomotiv Cairo" or "Real Moscow". Spawning more than one team per town is pretty common, but i don't think that (other than Dallas FC moving out of San José, again in the US) there's ever been a football team that was bought and moved.

Maybe not moved, but bought? Oh yes, that has happened.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:41:51 Reply

per town is pretty common, but i don't think that (other than Dallas FC moving out of San José, again in the US) there's ever been a football team that was bought and moved.

Milton Keynes from Wimbledon, Livingston from Edinburgh.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 15:48:43 Reply

At 6/25/10 03:37 PM, Haggard wrote: Maybe not moved, but bought? Oh yes, that has happened.

Ah yes, forgot about them. They also own NYC's FC. Which brings up another issue: WAY too much advertising, franchising, merchandising, marketing, labelling, branding, and other assorted neologisms for barefaced profiteering in not only US sports, but just about everything west of the Atlantic. Mexican and Argentinian football matches are the only ones where i remember watching an in-game commercial, like a banner ad, WITH AUDIO, nonetheless.
When you eliminate things like naming a stadium "The Coca-Cola Center" (i know, might have happened here or there in Europe, but nowhere near as prevalent as in the US), the "adidas PLAY OF THE MATCH", the "Sony CORNER KICK", the "Subway SUBSTITUTION", and leave a sport to its raw essence, you tend to take it a lot more seriously. Specially when compared to a NASCAR driver racing in a car sponsored by Tide.
Tide.
Has oh-so-much to do with driving, doesn't it? Like NASCAR doesn't have enough credibility issues.
In fact, i vividly remember a Porto striker getting into some serious trouble about a t-shirt he wore under his kit jersey to advertise a soft drink. And i agree with that, suspend him for a few matches, there's already enough advertising from those sideline boards and on the club kits. Keep the sport pure, or at least as pure as possible. This comes from legislation on a federation level, so it is fair, all the clubs get the same amount of advertising opportunities. The federation says what's OK and what's not.
To tie it all up with my initial point, keeping the sport pure means it gets taken seriously, and it's a lot easier to listen to a player who doesn't mention his sponsorship in the interview.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 16:20:51 Reply

Bah..the second half was nothing like the first one, both teams were basically wasting time on purpose...
Oh well, so now it's Spain vs Portugal and Chile vs Brazil.
Lol.

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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 16:23:21 Reply

At 6/25/10 04:20 PM, HeavyTank wrote: Bah..the second half was nothing like the first one, both teams were basically wasting time on purpose...

Yeah, once both teams in a match realize they're through, they pretty much park the bus and play like Italy until it's all over. (except with less theatrics)

Oh well, so now it's Spain vs Portugal and Chile vs Brazil.

Battle of the Empires... Spain vs Portugal should be more fun to watch, though.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 16:26:08 Reply

At 6/25/10 04:23 PM, C-Hawk wrote: Yeah, once both teams in a match realize they're through, they pretty much park the bus and play like Italy until it's all over. (except with less theatrics)

It's sad, but at the same time I kinda understand that they want to be sure that they'll pass without any unpleasant surprises...
At least from now on everyone will be going for the win.

Battle of the Empires... Spain vs Portugal should be more fun to watch, though.

Well yeah, Chile has a good team, but...eh.Then again, you never know.

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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 16:33:55 Reply

At 6/25/10 04:26 PM, HeavyTank wrote: At least from now on everyone will be going for the win.

Yessssssssssssssss fucking love knock-out stages in tournaments, it's like "alright, gloves off, time for some blood". If anyone has said the words "this is what the World Cup is all about" in the past few days, swallow those words, 'cause "what it's all about" starts now.
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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 16:39:41 Reply

At 6/25/10 03:11 PM, Auz wrote: I don't really see the point in such a conversation, other than hoping to satisfy/please the Italian and French people who were angry and disappointed with their teams.

Precisely it. Make a public speech, accept blame but imply that you made the right choices and that it wasn't REALLY your fault, shake hands with the prez.

That's how they do it.

Maybe the Italian government can put restrictions on the Serie A clubs, that they have to put more talented Italian players on the field and keep foreign players out

Neeeeeever gonna happen. Rich, influential clubs aren't going to stop putting their star players out there, leaving the Italian second-line on the bench. Because they want to win. NOW.

They couldn't give a rat's ass about the long-run, or about the national team. They're running a business.

And the Italian government is currently run by the president of Milan, so...nope. Ain't gonna happen.

I fucking WISH it would, but no.

I don't know, I just don't think the government should spent much time on it and try to meddle with it when they probably don't really know much about it.

Sadly, that's one of the few things the government is good at...chatting about soccer and shit.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 16:40:45 Reply

At 6/25/10 04:33 PM, C-Hawk wrote: Yessssssssssssssss fucking love knock-out stages in tournaments, it's like "alright, gloves off, time for some blood". If anyone has said the words "this is what the World Cup is all about" in the past few days, swallow those words, 'cause "what it's all about" starts now.

Agreed...
So, tomorrow we'll have Uruguay vs Korea (I am predicting an easy win for Uruguay) and USA vs Ghana (no idea, really).

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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 16:43:57 Reply

Well I guess Spain and Chile deserved to top this group. It was nice to see Switzerland beat Spain in the first game, but that defensive football style they use is kinda boring to watch. So I'm happy Spain and Chile are through actually.

And now we get some more interesting matches in the second round too. Spain - Portugal should be great and I expect a lot from Brazil - Chile as well.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 16:44:40 Reply

Yeah i think Uruguay has the edge and I doubt USA will lose.

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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 17:15:19 Reply

At 6/24/10 07:12 PM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 6/24/10 06:30 PM, jonthomson wrote: meaningless game that'll probably be a draw. spain/chile where it's at obv
No chance in hell this is going to be a draw...and Spain/Chile..well, it might be interesting, but it might also be pretty one-sided...nevertheless I'm gonna watch them both, so..

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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 17:35:32 Reply

At 6/24/10 01:27 AM, Haggard wrote:
At 6/23/10 09:43 PM, tyler2513 wrote: GHANA VS GERMANY
OK the Serbia 1-0 win was OK, you know, it's a pro mistake it happens. But now that Ghana 1-0 win!?
Have you even watched the game?
The guys that played in black where Germany, so it's Germany 1 - Ghana 0.

Your right YES I WATCHED THE DAMN GAME I forgot I was thinking about the serbia game I tricked myself.
Portugal Vs Brazil
I can not believe they tied 0-0 that was a pretty interesting game they both played awesome defense sides and I gotta say Portugal came so close to loosing. it was a pretty good overall game though.
Ivory Coast Vs Korea DPR
That was a really interesting game especially because I was cheering for Ivory Coast since they tied Portugal but Ivory Coast was controlling the ball the hole time but Korea DPR's goalie did alright I guess.
Chile Vs Spain
That was a close match I was going for Spain but I thought Chile was getting some really close chances around there. Spain did pretty well but I'm glad Chile made it they worked really hard.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 17:43:28 Reply

Just saw a lipreader's transcriptions of what Queirós was shouting into the pitch, and he was constantly ordering the players to win the midfield war.

"Tiago! We can't lose the ball there, okay? We can't lose the ball there. We need to be more aggressive."

"PEPE! OVER HERE" (gesturing to "zone 6" [defensive midfielder] line - note that Pepe is a centre-back and later almost broke a Brazilian player's ankle)

Violent football gets the job done in midfield, and when a team dominates midfield, that's half the game. It's not pretty, but these aren't friendlies either.
On that note, i am very surprised at Bruno Alves being quite efficient and not fouling nearly as much as expected. In his club, he's known for being a real tractor of a centre-back, excessively violent, which is part of the club's tradition, to have one of those and one very clean and efficient centre back.
For the national team, though, it's like he's a whole different person.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 19:15:57 Reply

Just watched Chile vs. Spain. I was pretty sure that they were going to tie, but with that ref who expelled Estrada with no reason at all, i was expecting maybe a 3-0 for Spain. Luckily, Chile knew how to stand up and keep playing without a player.
I didn't even see a foul before Estrada's expulsion. The spanish guy tripped with the field.


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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 19:25:11 Reply

may have been posted before. if it has, pretty sure people won't mind me reposting.

korea hwaiting tomorrow.

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The way i see it.

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Response to 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread 2010-06-25 19:57:18 Reply

At 6/25/10 07:38 PM, Molotov wrote: The way i see it.

I think something like that, but with Portugal winning instead of Spain.


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At 6/25/10 07:57 PM, monkeymadeline wrote: garbage

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