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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 12th, 2010 @ 09:29 PM Reply

Far as I can tell using the images I made in Fireworks, the difference between a PNG and Gif are too minuscule to tell at the dimensions we are using however the file size is a 72KB difference.

Sure my connection can handle that difference no problem, but when we are talking about that difference multiplied by hundreds of thousands of user each day, that difference really adds up in wasted bandwidth.

72KB x 250,000 users = 18,000,000KB which is 14.3GB.

Of course this is a worst case scenario by having every user who comes here viewing that icon, but the littlest things do add up. ;)


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 12th, 2010 @ 09:55 PM Reply

At 8/12/10 09:29 PM, reverend wrote: Far as I can tell using the images I made in Fireworks, the difference between a PNG and Gif are too minuscule to tell at the dimensions we are using however the file size is a 72KB difference.

I took the PNG and saved it in Photoshop with the Save for Web feature. I set the colors to 128, and I blame the barely noticeable artifacts on resaving the file.

Here's the result. It clocks in at a whopping 6.6 KB.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 12th, 2010 @ 10:25 PM Reply

At 8/12/10 09:55 PM, Rabid-Animals wrote:
At 8/12/10 09:29 PM, reverend wrote: Far as I can tell using the images I made in Fireworks, the difference between a PNG and Gif are too minuscule to tell at the dimensions we are using however the file size is a 72KB difference.
I took the PNG and saved it in Photoshop with the Save for Web feature. I set the colors to 128, and I blame the barely noticeable artifacts on resaving the file.

Here's the result. It clocks in at a whopping 6.6 KB.

And that is my point. My screenshot software auto-optimizes, it seems. It's like having an artist's palette with 50 different colours when you intend on painting a black and white picture. Waste of space.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 12th, 2010 @ 10:59 PM Reply

At 8/12/10 10:25 PM, thenewbies wrote: And that is my point. My screenshot software auto-optimizes, it seems. It's like having an artist's palette with 50 different colours when you intend on painting a black and white picture. Waste of space.

Would you mind clarifying? Are you for the PNG or not? What exactly wastes the space?


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 12th, 2010 @ 11:14 PM Reply

At 8/12/10 09:55 PM, Rabid-Animals wrote: Here's the result. It clocks in at a whopping 6.6 KB.

Eh, you exported it as a jpeg there sparky. :P

But I get what you are trying to say. You probably using the PNG-8 128 Option on PS which is fine but I'm just saying why use that when you can have 256 color gif with virtually the same file size. As long as it's below 10KB and looks good, it's fine in my book.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 04:47 AM Reply

I'm uploading them in .png format too. My icons are about 6 kb and I'm just using MS Paint, so... doesn't any program have "auto-optimizing" then?


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 06:27 AM Reply

I tend to use Photoshop's "Save for Web and Devices..." option. I save as PNG, trying to find the lowest number of colors needed for the icon to look good. 128 and 256 work most of the time for these icons.

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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 09:00 AM Reply

At 8/12/10 03:19 PM, thenewbies wrote:
At 8/12/10 03:10 PM, Bahamut wrote: 1. I don't think anyone has expressed their thoughts on this before but I HATE screenshots I take that have gradients on them. When saving it to GIF, the gradients look horrible so I resort to saving them as JPG files.
You can submit icons as png files. All of the icons I've done have been png. png is basically a better version of gif, minus animation.

I gave PNG a try later on and the gradient issues still occur to me. Well, it's not bad when it's on higher quality but then the filesize becomes too big. Ah well, I'll just stick to JPG which is good enough.

At 8/12/10 03:32 PM, ThePigeonMaster wrote:
At 8/12/10 03:10 PM, Bahamut wrote: 2. Am I silly for making individual icons for the spammiest flashes found in the Clock Day pages? By that, I mean those that are nothing but a letter B with a few alterations. Yeah, they all get individual icons from me rather than just a default icon showing the letter B.
lol, ask Tom to not delete those flashes or else you will be screwed :P
That's why I avoid making icons for crew flashes.

I don't have much to worry about since these are in the Clock Day pages and the only flashes that will be removed are those that violate portal guidelines yet slipped through the crack and those that request to have their flashes/account deleted. I've seen two flashes in the Clock Day pages that break the portal guidelines and I decided to not make icons for them at all since I got them handed over to Wade and were deleted. Well, the one I reported did go down in flames.

At 8/12/10 05:06 PM, thenewbies wrote: HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead. HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead. HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead. HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead. HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead.

At least you don't have Go Compare. :P


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 09:18 AM Reply

At 8/12/10 12:52 PM, EJR wrote: Current icon mods that signed up for the golden aura and disappeared once we lost them:
trevorW
Ashman

This is also referring to the message that you went me. Just because someone doesn't post or comment about their icon making doesn't mean that they aren't doing it. For example, I make anywhere from 5 to 10 icons a day. I know it's not a lot, but I found it odd that you would message me and tell me that I wasn't active awhile back there.

Some of us like to stay "undercover" and do our work with little to no reward or praise from other users. That's me for sure so that's why I've just been quiet about icon modding.

Also, all of my icons are under 7kb, they are suppose to be right? At least that's what I was told.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 09:31 AM Reply

At 8/13/10 09:18 AM, Fro wrote: This is also referring to the message that you went me. Just because someone doesn't post or comment about their icon making doesn't mean that they aren't doing it.

This is what I've always thought about the quieter icon mods. For all we know, they could be making 50 icons a day but if they hardly communicate with the icon mod team, it can be hard to tell if they're active or not. I'll just that to the admins since they obviously know more about their activities.

Also, all of my icons are under 7kb, they are suppose to be right? At least that's what I was told.

That's right, the limit (or recommended limit) is 7kb.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 09:43 AM Reply

Well, I'll be leaving on vacation soon. No icons for a few weeks. I am ashamed because I'm going be missing both Clock Day and Pimp's ascension to Level 60, both of which are important events. And who knows, maybe the redesign will happen while I'm gone, just to add to the list of things I'll miss.

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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 01:36 PM Reply

At 8/13/10 09:43 AM, Archawn wrote: And who knows, maybe the redesign will happen while I'm gone, just to add to the list of things I'll miss.

I REALLY doubt the redesign will be here in some weeks. There are still a lot of icons to do, and I'm talking more than 100,000.

By the way, if you say you will be gone for some weeks, I guess we need another moderator (but not to take your place) to keep doing icons in a decent rate.

That's all for now, I'm gonna make some icons.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 02:43 PM Reply

i very much doubt the design will be delayed for icons. the most likely outcome will be tom asking you guys to step up and work harder. even then, it's not a massive issue, the more popular submissions are done already!

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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 06:58 PM Reply

Here Luis said the redesign is slated to come out later this year, and that one of the big tasks was to get as many icons done as we could before then. We probably won't be demodded for a while (but let's end that discussion at that).

Oh jeez, oh man.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 13th, 2010 @ 10:10 PM Reply

Later this year? I think we can manage another 100k in 3-4 months.

We just need a few more icon mods on board.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 05:45 AM Reply

At 8/13/10 09:43 AM, Archawn wrote: Well, I'll be leaving on vacation soon. No icons for a few weeks. I am ashamed because I'm going be missing both Clock Day and Pimp's ascension to Level 60, both of which are important events. And who knows, maybe the redesign will happen while I'm gone, just to add to the list of things I'll miss.

If that happens, you will know how I felt when the 2007 redesign was launched while I was away in Cuba. :P

At 8/13/10 10:10 PM, DumbassDude wrote: We just need a few more icon mods on board.

Like I said a while ago, I asked around 15 people if they were interested in becoming an icon mod. I know a few who have applied to become an icon mod but have yet to hear back from Tom. One of them sent his application a few weeks ago and never heard back. :(


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 12:47 PM Reply

At 8/14/10 05:45 AM, Bahamut wrote: Like I said a while ago, I asked around 15 people if they were interested in becoming an icon mod. I know a few who have applied to become an icon mod but have yet to hear back from Tom. One of them sent his application a few weeks ago and never heard back. :(

I thought he replies saying why you can't be an icon mod but I guess not. Im pretty lucky about becoming an icon mod since I found out all of the users who tried to become icon mods but didn't get to.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 03:03 PM Reply

If Tom didn't even reply for that long, I must be really lucky. I was modded a few days after I asked.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 03:40 PM Reply

I am still working on the D's five or ten a day. If not more, but Im trying my best.

Also, random question for all of you icon mods. Whats good music to listen to while making this icons? Just a pondering thought that occurred to my head.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 03:54 PM Reply

I don't listen to music, since I want to watch the movie or play the game I'm making icons for, so I have a better idea of what to make an icon of. I never listen to music on my computer anyway.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 04:26 PM Reply

At 8/14/10 03:40 PM, Goonie wrote: Also, random question for all of you icon mods. Whats good music to listen to while making this icons? Just a pondering thought that occurred to my head.

Normally I just listen to the Red Hot Chili Peppers on iTunes and mute Firefox so I don't hear the game / movie sounds.. that usually gets me through boring flashes but probably just because I have a huge boner for RHCP.

idk man that's just me but idk.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 05:00 PM Reply

Users who fake their flash's score now enrage me greatly.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 05:07 PM Reply

At 8/14/10 03:03 PM, thenewbies wrote: If Tom didn't even reply for that long, I must be really lucky. I was modded a few days after I asked.

Actually, one of the guys who applied for icon mod heard back and was given a reason why they didn't take him on board. Now to see if the other one gets in.

At 8/14/10 03:40 PM, Goonie wrote: Also, random question for all of you icon mods. Whats good music to listen to while making this icons? Just a pondering thought that occurred to my head.

None because I work on the icons rather quickly and moving onto the next flash very shortly. However, if I'm to take any breaks in between, I just go with whatever's on my playlist at the time.

At 8/14/10 05:00 PM, thenewbies wrote: Users who fake their flash's score now enrage me greatly.

At least you're not the one who's going through all the Clock Day pages. The top scoring "flash" for 2006 is just another B rip-off:


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 06:25 PM Reply

At 8/14/10 05:07 PM, Bahamut wrote: At least you're not the one who's going through all the Clock Day pages. The top scoring "flash" for 2006 is just another B rip-off:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/33 2026

That's what Clock Day is all about.
With the occasional quality flash.

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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 09:04 PM Reply

At 8/14/10 12:47 PM, Domo wrote: I thought he replies saying why you can't be an icon mod but I guess not. Im pretty lucky about becoming an icon mod since I found out all of the users who tried to become icon mods but didn't get to.

I guess the admins think there are a lot of moderators right now. But if they change their minds, I think they're gonna mod the users who PM Tom, asking for icon modship.
I guess those users are in the "Potential list" if the admins want to give modship to more users. After all, I got modded 4 days after I sent him my PM.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 09:42 PM Reply

At 8/14/10 09:04 PM, ThePigeonMaster wrote:
At 8/14/10 12:47 PM, Domo wrote: I thought he replies saying why you can't be an icon mod but I guess not. Im pretty lucky about becoming an icon mod since I found out all of the users who tried to become icon mods but didn't get to.
I guess the admins think there are a lot of moderators right now.

I don't think so. When icon mods stopped having gold auras, Wade said that he thought it was because "we may end up with 100 icon mods"... And we're nowhere near to 100.

I don't know why some people just don't get modded, when pretty much anyone who wants to help can do so (and there's virtually no way to abuse our mod tools).

I'm starting to feel guilty because I haven't made any icons in the last 48 hours :(

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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 14th, 2010 @ 10:08 PM Reply

At 8/14/10 09:42 PM, Ismael92 wrote: there's virtually no way to abuse our mod tools.

Well, we can, er, change people's icons without their, uh, permission. :|

I'm starting to feel guilty because I haven't made any icons in the last 48 hours :(

Well, don't give up. We're still a long way away from completing all the icons. Maybe we can all celebrate as someone finishes off the last icon, and then we'll have a big party or something.

And I calculated that I make about 12.083 icons a day. Fascinating, is it not?


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 15th, 2010 @ 10:05 AM Reply

Hi guys

PC got virus

on my family macbook aka macbook that my step brother acts like he owns
no photoshop for a little while i guess


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 15th, 2010 @ 10:53 AM Reply

At 8/15/10 10:05 AM, Boss wrote: Hi guys

PC got virus

on my family macbook aka macbook that my step brother acts like he owns
no photoshop for a little while i guess

Take a screenshot and submit it. Easy enough.


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Response to The Icon Mod Crew Aug. 15th, 2010 @ 12:23 PM Reply

Magyar submitted a flash with an icon with boobs (not porn related at all). I censored them, uploaded it, and he re-uploaded the old one. So, yeah, the icon lock would be a nice idea.


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