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Ok so I saw this on PostSecret today and I have to say, I was a little heartbroken. I live in an Islamic country and i'm going to be moving back their soon after a month or so lodging in the UK.

I think this is my biggest problem with Islam, the hate and stigma it encourages around homosexuality and the LGBT community as a whole. A survey in 2009 showed that over 80% of British Islamic males thought of homosexuality as an abomination.

What needs to be done in order to promote acceptance of the LGBT community within Islam?
Can the two coexist?
Should a religion ever be allowed to promote hate?

Here is he picture I linked above.

Same thing with Christianity.

At 5/31/10 06:52 PM, o0-0o wrote: Same thing with Christianity.

The reason i'm mentioning Isalm specifically is because I have a certain amount of experience with it. When I was living in Dubai I can remember seeing dozens of articles in a time period of 6 months about the arrest and deportation of transgender, homosexual and bisexual people purely on the grounds of their sexuality.

At 5/31/10 06:52 PM, o0-0o wrote: Same thing with Christianity.

Believe it or not, from what I've seen, the Catholic Church is slowly accepting gays into the community. At least around here.

But you did mention Christianity as a whole, and yes, there are still radical groups and extremists out there who think otherwise.

Simple fact of reality: In Islamic countries, they cut your head off if they discover you're homosexual.

At 5/31/10 06:52 PM, o0-0o wrote: Same thing with Christianity.

Except Christians don't advocate killing/jailing people because of them being homosexual. Islam just plain wants to see every homosexual person slaughtered.

I think it's a serious problem that will, if it ever happens, take a very long time to get addressed. Too many people needlessly get torn between their sexuality and their faith. While it's most common and more noticeable for there to be complaints about homosexuality and religion, there's also problems that males and females can't even dabble in their bisexuality, pansexuality or transsexualism just because their religion just says no. Faith shouldn't govern, it should simply guide people through life. This, of course, includes sexuality and love.

At 5/31/10 07:12 PM, bassoon wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:06 PM, jedi-master wrote:

At 5/31/10 06:52 PM, o0-0o wrote: Same thing with Christianity.

Except Christians don't advocate killing/jailing people because of them being homosexual. Islam just plain wants to see every homosexual person slaughtered.

you don't know shit about islam

I do, actually. And you should go read up on the Qu'ran. Islam is even tougher/just as tough on the matter as the Book of Leviticus in the Old Testament, Ch. 18:22.

Don't make assumptions.

At 5/31/10 07:16 PM, jedi-master wrote: Don't make assumptions.

How about you stop confusing the difference between different religious text and extremism?

At 5/31/10 07:17 PM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:16 PM, jedi-master wrote: Don't make assumptions.

How about you stop confusing the difference between different religious text and extremism?

I'm not. I'm simply addressing the Islamic stance on Homosexuality and the like. No need to get your balls in a knot.

At 5/31/10 07:17 PM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:16 PM, jedi-master wrote: Don't make assumptions.

How about you stop confusing the difference between different religious text and extremism?

I agree, to an extent.

I don't think homophobia is something that is only prevalent amongst the extremist side of Islam, I think it is still alarmingly present within "mainstream" Islam as well.

At 5/31/10 07:19 PM, jedi-master wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:17 PM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:16 PM, jedi-master wrote: Don't make assumptions.

How about you stop confusing the difference between different religious text and extremism?

I'm not. I'm simply addressing the Islamic stance on Homosexuality and the like. No need to get your balls in a knot.

Really?

At 5/31/10 07:06 PM, jedi-master wrote: Except Christians don't advocate killing/jailing people because of them being homosexual. Islam just plain wants to see every homosexual person slaughtered.

Well, that was weird because I thought you were making a statement on the extent of extremism in the Muslim population and not the Islamic stance of homosexuality according to the Qu'uan in comparison to the Bible.

At 5/31/10 07:20 PM, WaterShake wrote:
I don't think homophobia is something that is only prevalent amongst the extremist side of Islam, I think it is still alarmingly present within "mainstream" Islam as well.

Yeah, in most of those Middle Eastern Islam ruled countries, Homosexuality is crime punishable by death/jail or both. And I bet the average mainstream Muslim is just fine with that.

At 5/31/10 07:22 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: The Islamic aren't afraid of homosexuals

Quite the contrary, Homosexuals are afraid of Islam

True, although I think we have different definitions of homophobia. Granted -phobia is the suffix used to indicate fear. But I think homophobia has become synonymous with hatred and prejudice against the LGBT community.

The definition oh homophobia in the New Oxford American Dictionary is: "an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people."

At 5/31/10 07:27 PM, eece wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:24 PM, jedi-master wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:20 PM, WaterShake wrote:
I don't think homophobia is something that is only prevalent amongst the extremist side of Islam, I think it is still alarmingly present within "mainstream" Islam as well.

Yeah, in most of those Middle Eastern Islam ruled countries, Homosexuality is crime punishable by death/jail or both. And I bet the average mainstream Muslim is just fine with that.

which "middle eastern islam ruled countries"? give sources to back up your claims

and what you bet about the "mainstream muslim" is about as irrelevant as it gets

Well i've lived in Dubai and I can remember an article with the headline "Cross-dresser is locked up"

It went on to explain how a 22-year-old Emirati was found guilty of "homosexuality, male prostitution, having an illegal affair, producing and distributing pornography, wearing women's clothing in public and insulting religion"

He wasn't a prostitue and the "pornography" was a photo of him and him and his partner, hugging, fully clothed.

Every religion would abolish homosexuality if they had the chance.

At 5/31/10 07:34 PM, gamekillereater wrote: Every religion would abolish homosexuality if they had the chance.

No they wouldn't. You are making very broad statements, and you act as if all of every religion is unified and has the exact same opinion on everything.

At 5/31/10 07:27 PM, eece wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:24 PM, jedi-master wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:20 PM, WaterShake wrote:
I don't think homophobia is something that is only prevalent amongst the extremist side of Islam, I think it is still alarmingly present within "mainstream" Islam as well.

Yeah, in most of those Middle Eastern Islam ruled countries, Homosexuality is crime punishable by death/jail or both. And I bet the average mainstream Muslim is just fine with that.

which "middle eastern islam ruled countries"? give sources to back up your claims

and what you bet about the "mainstream muslim" is about as irrelevant as it gets

Sorry about my delayed response. I'm jedi-master's alt. I can't post right now; I accidentally reached the post limit here...

Here's a source even though you know these countries ban Homosexuality. Iran can punish it by way of Death Penalty.

At 5/31/10 07:27 PM, eece wrote: which "middle eastern islam ruled countries"? give sources to back up your claims

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_
homosexuality_laws.svg

Dark brown = death penalty.

At 5/31/10 07:35 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:34 PM, gamekillereater wrote: Every religion would abolish homosexuality if they had the chance.

No they wouldn't. You are making very broad statements, and you act as if all of every religion is unified and has the exact same opinion on everything.

Religions are always against homosexuality.
Fuck religions. Homos need some love <3

no I'm not gay >_>

At 5/31/10 07:35 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:34 PM, gamekillereater wrote: Every religion would abolish homosexuality if they had the chance.

No they wouldn't. You are making very broad statements, and you act as if all of every religion is unified and has the exact same opinion on everything.

Yes, they are. Can't you see? It's all a conspiracy.

At 5/31/10 07:36 PM, AapoJoki wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:27 PM, eece wrote: which "middle eastern islam ruled countries"? give sources to back up your claims

Dark brown = death penalty.

link that works

At 5/31/10 07:35 PM, eece wrote:

At 5/31/10 07:29 PM, WaterShake wrote: It went on to explain how a 22-year-old Emirati was found guilty of "homosexuality, male prostitution, having an illegal affair, producing and distributing pornography, wearing women's clothing in public and insulting religion"

and which of those was he convicted for?

All charges, as was his partner. They would have either been deported or jailed but I can\t be sure. I'll try find the article or one similar in the newspaper archive.

The LGBT community are completely unprotected by the law in the UAE. Google searching the words homosexual, gay, gay rights etc. will produce a blank page.

religions tend to make everything perfect in the world and sometime the go too far...there are many things ppl dissagree in religion other than sex so the only solution for u is to say fuck you i wanna live may life the way i want it.

Gays.... their fucking assholes.

Get it? har har har

dose it actualy say why it's not good to be gay in the koran ?

always wanted to know that.

At 5/31/10 06:57 PM, SaltshakerClock wrote: Believe it or not, from what I've seen, the Catholic Church is slowly accepting gays into the community. At least around here.

I take it you've never heard of Texas.

At 7/4/10 08:01 PM, Archon68 wrote:

At 5/31/10 06:57 PM, SaltshakerClock wrote: Believe it or not, from what I've seen, the Catholic Church is slowly accepting gays into the community. At least around here.

I take it you've never heard of Texas.

Or the Westbro Baptist Church. You know, the one that protests at gay soldiers funerals, saying "Thank God for 9/11", "God hates fags", ect?