Honest Question. Life.

[Stereocrisis]

Okay, this thread is for the people here to decide amongst themselves...

Why is it such a cruel world?

(This is only a test of your character. We can separate the boys from the men really quick right now. Personally, I don't think a cruel world matters much when I'm safe at home with my family. Of course this could change down the road, I'm not saying I'm always going to feel one way about something for the rest of my life. I'm just saying, I'm trying to just be a man right now and care for my child and my wife. Discuss. Not my life. Discuss whatever the hell your feeling right now. Because life is fucking beautiful. It's easy to die. Stay healthy. Breathe, move, do something with yourself, go for runs during the day, and just be a level headed guy. Your family, if it's bad, will drag you down if you don't realize that you can really rise above that. Everyone has a few problems, you can't let it get you to a point where you will break down. I've been there, in the hospital, stinking of booze, in the psych ward, cops drove me there. I think they understood, my father killed himself in 2006, I went off alot, and acted out in the ritual of blotting out my pain with anything that will cause me to feel high or drunk. It was hard, but I rose above it. Now I'm a father, and my wife and I even babysit my best friends newborn (well, 5 months old) and I get by on what I can. I am unemployed because I was still going through this crap with my father, it still hurts me to the point of not wanting to face public, and also, I just spend to much time caring for my son. I get paid to babysit my friend's kid basically. It's good of him to trust me and pay me. He is helping me out, and I am helping him out. So, basically, that's my story. My wife is unemployed too, but she is pretty damn good in bed. haha Without her help, my son wouldn't be here, she's awesome. Okay, gotta go... stepping away from the awkwardness of displaying my personal life to you... haha

Why is it such cruel world FOR you, or TO you? Or, do you not think it is cruel at all? Either answer is honest, and simple. Let's not let the trolls get out of hand. Ya crazy trolls!

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[tox]

the world is cruel because we want it to be,
we starve our own species to the point that both knowledge, adaptations and differences are eradicated, while we are slave to our self made destructive self image.
man kind is a war species, we thrive on death and destruction, you want it and crave it, and if not war, then conflict, we love drama, and arguments..
the world is cruel because we want it that way and because there is such a great number of people behind that idea, it will never change.
... now what does that say about me?

[Stereocrisis]

At 5/25/10 12:43 AM, quagmire690 wrote: the world is cruel because we want it to be,
we starve our own species to the point that both knowledge, adaptations and differences are eradicated, while we are slave to our self made destructive self image.
man kind is a war species, we thrive on death and destruction, you want it and crave it, and if not war, then conflict, we love drama, and arguments..
the world is cruel because we want it that way and because there is such a great number of people behind that idea, it will never change.
... now what does that say about me?

I would say that you probably grew up in a circumstance where maybe you came across a lot of hard roads emotionally. People have hurt you emotionally for you to think about some people like that. It's okay, this is the kind of response I was hoping to get, so I could just take some of the weight off your shoulders man. You shouldn't have to carry around that much pain, you only have to distance yourself from certain places, and certain people. Become independant. I'm not telling you to take a wife, have a kid and settle down. But if you become independant, and it does mean hard work, you will be free to do whatever you want. That's what's cool about America dude. You you free to do something good with your life. Some people live in villages where the woman are raped endlessly and people are blown up in car bombings, and people's head are cut off in the street to show their domination. Some leaders just start killing their own people in the streets, and they rule like Hitler. Consider yourself lucky not to be in that situation is all I'm saying. You seem to be level headed, and a moderately intelligent person. Not immensely intellligent, but I just met you. The point being is that you can really find places in America where nobody will ever be around. There are so many places in America that are still very secluded. The further I am away from other people, I think the better off I would be. The TV sucks and the radio sucks too, because then you still have to watch and listen to people's stupid bullshit. I would live deep in the country in a heartbeat if I wasn't so tied down in new england. I like my privacy, I feel like it's an invasion of privacy when I'm outside. Nobody around here cares about one another. It's better to be out of it... I suppose I will eventually find the right place to live.

[Perversion]

I was just born at the wrong place with no oppurtunities given to me, like most people. Some people have luck and money, while I have neither.

[o0-0o]

To not assimilate to norms means to get crushed by society itself. That's kind of cruel I guess.

Oh it also makes life kinda linear if you look at it. Sucks...

[Luke]

Why is the world cruel to me? As in what does it do that makes it cruel?

If that's the case, because my whole life nobody treated me fairly in my family besides two of my grandma's and one grandpa. No family member has anything good to say about me, although there is plenty to.

My mom's a drug addicted whore (literally), and doesn't give two fucks about me, and has always treated me unfairly. For example: I turn 18, I get 250 dollars. Brother turns 14, he gets a 1,800 dollar laptop. Older brother turns 16, get's a car. I never got fuck all.

I'm the shitty child in my family, they talked shit about me when I was on medications that THEY put me on, saying I'm on more pills than my grandpa's (who have all had cancer and other health problems, lots of medication). Etc..

I could go on forever, talking about other shit like being abused as a child and what not, but fuck it.

If you're asking why I think the world is cruel?

Well, take a look around you. There isn't much good in the world anymore.

Children aren't punished the way they used to be, they turned in to teenagers with no respect, like the generation of teenagers today.

Back when our grandparent's were our age, they didn't have to worry about walking down the street and having somebody jump them. I see kids and hear about kids getting stabbed, jumped, and killed all the time from other teenagers. It's fucking bullshit.

And for that I blame the media, everyone sees gangsters on main-stream music all over the place, with guns, drugs, money, and bitches. Kids see that enough growing up, and they become that in their own way. They think it's right because their role models are waving it around in music videos, real movies, documentaries, interviews, etc.

And also, because of lazy fucking parents. They don't teach their kids right from wrong anymore, and a teenager needs to be put into place at least a little bit. Lots of people I know just have lazy fucking parents who never taught them fuck all, never showed them right from wrong, never did fuck all. And trust me, my buddies who have parents like that, aren't in good places. Not saying this happens to every kid, but it does happen and it's a reason to blame.

The world is just completely fucked now, I could go on about so much shit but my fucking hands hurt.

[tox]

At 5/25/10 01:02 AM, Stereocrisis wrote:

At 5/25/10 12:43 AM, quagmire690 wrote:

I would say that you probably grew up in a circumstance where maybe you came across a lot of hard roads emotionally. People have hurt you emotionally for you to think about some people like that.

People have never actualy hurt me emotionaly.. as far as i know as least.. my hypothesis comes from 4 years of studying psychology, sosiology, human behgaviour, history and psycology, criminology, human relations, and a single corse in women studies.

It's okay, this is the kind of response I was hoping to get, so I could just take some of the weight off your shoulders man. You shouldn't have to carry around that much pain, you only have to distance yourself from certain places, and certain people. Become independant. I'm not telling you to take a wife, have a kid and settle down. But if you become independant, and it does mean hard work, you will be free to do whatever you want.

Independence meaning something that is part of the world around us, that you are willing to take a controling hand in or a independence that allows you to understand the why factor in the things that "i" do...

That's what's cool about America dude. You're free to do something good with your life. Some people live in villages where the woman are raped endlessly and people are blown up in car bombings, and people's head are cut off in the street to show their domination. Some leaders just start killing their own people in the streets, and they rule like Hitler. Consider yourself lucky not to be in that situation is all I'm saying.
You seem to be level headed, and a moderately intelligent person. Not immensely intellligent, but I just met you. The point being is that you can really find places in America

Ok.... i like in canada...

where nobody will ever be around. There are so many places in America that are still very secluded. The further I am away from other people, I think the better off I would be. The TV sucks and the radio sucks too, because then you still have to watch and listen to people's stupid bullshit. I would live deep in the country in a heartbeat if I wasn't so tied down in new england. I like my privacy, I feel like it's an invasion of privacy when I'm outside. Nobody around here cares about one another. It's better to be out of it... I suppose I will eventually find the right place to live.

You are telling me the same sort of thing about your self, while i dont know your level of schooling in the social aspects of this world so i will take to for a moderately intelligent man, who does not lie openly to anyone, loves the world around yourself but dislikes the history of our past and fears where we are going in the future, wild life and a easy going life style is your kind of low ride, you prefer jeans that are low cut and comfy to that of a regular fit.. ur not married.. but have either a girl with you or in mind.. you hope that she shares the same kind of idealism's as you do and thus will have someone to connect to on a deep level...

you are looking for someone to share ideas with and are willing to vary in the level of intelligence needed to communicate to the other party...
you reach out often for a hand in the dark world you see before you .. but that is in part due to the place you live and the people that you are still living with..
i base these ideas off your picture you have on your page, your latest drawing, and the fact that you say you are 23.
:)

[Head-Full-Of-Acid]

Why is the world cruel?

I think it's more or less temptation, or more specficially: greed.

People don't do bad things because it's just something to do; they do them because they have urges to satisfy.

Religion establishes law; Society establishes order, and some people believe that they shouldn't allow these things to constrain their personal freedom.

I think it's just the environment we surround ourselves with; the problems we deal with throughout our lives make us who we become. We have every right to fear the world because the world is unpredictable: people get killed, lose their homes..

Maybe people just get so tired of these circumstances that they become the problem they tried to avoid initially, or maybe peole just don't care.

Personally, I have two seperate personalities I retain; the one with optimism that's still perceptive to beauty, and the other side that accepts the evil within and around me.

I keep one of them because it's the way I wish to perceive life, and I keep the other because it's the way I actually perceive life. Both are essential to myself for accepting the world we live in.

There will always be good people; there will always be good people who do bad things because they're caught up in bad situations, and then there will be those who do what they please because it's a part of their experience here on Earth.

[Stereocrisis]

Epic Fall, you are clearly an older person with some ideas about the world, and I think you need to take some responsibly for getting enough money to get out of that situation. It might be hard for you, but you do have to get going. Out of that damn shitty little piece of your world. Just leave it. Think of it as your life is just experiencing a city. A town. It doesn't represent the whole world. There are so many places to just be away from everything and everyone. Or at least try to meet new people in another state, another city, because you can do it. Point being, you can't look at a city, or a state, or even a country, and tell yourself that you have it all figured out. Because the world is immense with all kinds of different people and places. You should look at your immediate surroundings and judge the world. You can't listen to a radio and judge the world. (I noticed you attacked bad influences on TV, and radio, but think about it this way, a small percentage of people decide to put that on the radio, and it isn't importat to that many people when you think about it. I'm sure alot of people hate TV and radio, it's stupid to think that everyone is a wigger.) But anyway, if you were a nomad, you would see quickly how much better things could be. Life is able to feel like a huge adventure, but it sucks because everyone is having the adventure at once, and they somehow think that if they act like they are having a better adventure than you, they win. It's competition. It's what we know as pride. Just a million and one people all meeting each other in public, and growing up in houses with other people, it can get pretty scary if you can't find a way to break out of it and feel free with obligations and commitments. Some people just kill themselves. wah...

[DrRick]

I personally wouldn't entirely know why because I haven't had much tradgedies in my life. But I think that it is because people are making the wrong decisions at the wrong time and the wrong place. But that is only what I think.

[Stereocrisis]

At 5/25/10 01:29 AM, quagmire690 wrote:

At 5/25/10 01:02 AM, Stereocrisis wrote:

At 5/25/10 12:43 AM, quagmire690 wrote:

I would say that you probably grew up in a circumstance where maybe you came across a lot of hard roads emotionally. People have hurt you emotionally for you to think about some people like that.

People have never actualy hurt me emotionaly.. as far as i know as least.. my hypothesis comes from 4 years of studying psychology, sosiology, human behgaviour, history and psycology, criminology, human relations, and a single corse in women studies.

It's okay, this is the kind of response I was hoping to get, so I could just take some of the weight off your shoulders man. You shouldn't have to carry around that much pain, you only have to distance yourself from certain places, and certain people. Become independant. I'm not telling you to take a wife, have a kid and settle down. But if you become independant, and it does mean hard work, you will be free to do whatever you want.

Independence meaning something that is part of the world around us, that you are willing to take a controling hand in or a independence that allows you to understand the why factor in the things that "i" do...

That's what's cool about America dude. You're free to do something good with your life. Some people live in villages where the woman are raped endlessly and people are blown up in car bombings, and people's head are cut off in the street to show their domination. Some leaders just start killing their own people in the streets, and they rule like Hitler. Consider yourself lucky not to be in that situation is all I'm saying.
You seem to be level headed, and a moderately intelligent person. Not immensely intellligent, but I just met you. The point being is that you can really find places in America

Ok.... i like in canada...

where nobody will ever be around. There are so many places in America that are still very secluded. The further I am away from other people, I think the better off I would be. The TV sucks and the radio sucks too, because then you still have to watch and listen to people's stupid bullshit. I would live deep in the country in a heartbeat if I wasn't so tied down in new england. I like my privacy, I feel like it's an invasion of privacy when I'm outside. Nobody around here cares about one another. It's better to be out of it... I suppose I will eventually find the right place to live.

You are telling me the same sort of thing about your self, while i dont know your level of schooling in the social aspects of this world so i will take to for a moderately intelligent man, who does not lie openly to anyone, loves the world around yourself but dislikes the history of our past and fears where we are going in the future, wild life and a easy going life style is your kind of low ride, you prefer jeans that are low cut and comfy to that of a regular fit.. ur not married.. but have either a girl with you or in mind.. you hope that she shares the same kind of idealism's as you do and thus will have someone to connect to on a deep level...

you are looking for someone to share ideas with and are willing to vary in the level of intelligence needed to communicate to the other party...
you reach out often for a hand in the dark world you see before you .. but that is in part due to the place you live and the people that you are still living with..
i base these ideas off your picture you have on your page, your latest drawing, and the fact that you say you are 23.

)

Well actually I am married, and I have a son. I do wear jeans, but I could also do khakis or even a suit when the occasion calls for it. IO am high school educated, and I never went to college, but I consider myself an observer. Kind of crazy, kind of cool. My criminal side is actually a manifestation of my normal self. I see the world as if I am wearing the mask of sanity sometimes. It wouldn't take much to set me off one day, and it is because I am usually so calm and so nice. Classic repressed memories and repressed childhood stem from an alcoholic parents who ended up killing himself, and the walk the tight rope candor of a new father, My son in over 4 months old, and my wife and I are happy. I am able to set my past and my future apart, but some things are still very much a part of the present. When people around you die, you will find that the only thing that can follow you into the future is the death of a loved one. That stays with you, and it is a a part of you always because you will never see a certain someone ever again, and you feel that loss forever, depending on if you care or not that the person is dead. My father might have been screwed up, so maybe like father like son. But I get on with that fact, it is as much a part of me as life. Life makes a strange and solemn stage, a cruel joke on it's unprepared main characters. Some people have got what it takes to read the lines, and fit into this big movie. But the stage is everything. If the stage is a shitty piece of land, and you are a bad actor, you get screwed. Maybe the people who are able to read the lines and the people who can read in between the lines are set up on this stage, this entire fucking show, for someone's own personal gag reel. A cosmic television show. The REAL World. It's not to far fetched. In the future, they will be able to create things like this, we might all be in one tiny little mirco chip, a memory card. We were probably downloaded for entertainment. A scale model. Video recordings in God's computer. Okay, I'm starting to sound paranoid, hahaha

[satanbrain]

world is cruel cause that is the human nature. humans meant to be selfish and care only for their dynasty (by spreading their own DNA). regular human is not morally superior and therefore he'll act just like an animal, use any opportunity to his own good, help only to satisfy his feelings, won't think there is greater than him.

[Stereocrisis]

At 5/25/10 02:35 AM, satanbrain wrote: world is cruel cause that is the human nature. humans meant to be selfish and care only for their dynasty (by spreading their own DNA). regular human is not morally superior and therefore he'll act just like an animal, use any opportunity to his own good, help only to satisfy his feelings, won't think there is greater than him.

Good theory, one problem being that this is a very general statement. Humans care about all sorts of things, and alot of them fight for the good of their species, not just the good of their offspring. Also, being superior morally is a matter of opinion. Right and wrong are not universal set boundaries, and the lines that we choose to cross and/or stay behind are most certainly invisible, and in the minds of the beholder. I mean, I'm sure you've done things to piss people off without even realizing it, because they had higher hopes for your behavior. I think you just mean that in general, our animalistic instincts tell us to survive, and be number one, and be ahead of everyone, and I think that you think the rest is shallow and emotionally driven bullshit. Perhaps it is. Perhaps we are all animals, and our personal preferances are but meanless acts of repetition and are morals are based on our surroundings and our lessons. I can see your point, as to why this would have everyone at each others throats, because we don't know much more than that these animal who live around us are cruel and would rather see us take a bullet, than themselves. There is no brotherhood. People are told to never talk to strangers. There is no feeling of community, and when there is, people aren't in it for the right reasons. Not for the love of their fellow brothers and sisters. They are in it to show off how big their houses are, and how much money they have, and to compare clothing in church. Everyone that wants to be number one is fighting a losing battle. Nobody can be number one forever. You might be number 1 for a second, and then you already have someone else take that title from you within the same breath. Competition is fierce. Every monkey for himself. Monkey see, monkey do, I'd rather be dead, than cool. Pull it out, keep it in, you have to have poison skin.

[JaY11]

Because 'morals' are a man made thing, in reality there are no 'good' and 'bad' people, just people with different ways of thinking, which are usually decided by how they are raised. Most serial killers had abusive parents as children for example. Another reason that somebody else mentioned was that we just like it that way. We adore the drama of it all, we love reading or hearing about horrific happenings because it's a refreshing change from our otherwise boring lives. I don't know about most people, but let's say there was a serial killer somewhere, I bet most people (me included) secretly would rather see more murders on the news than the killer actually being caught, just for the excitement. Unless of course this killer directly affects us, we don't truly care, because humans are selfish like that.

[Stereocrisis]

JaY11, I can't see the point in hoping the serial killer isn't caught. Not at all. Maybe the world is cruel because of people like you. I mean, you would secretly wish that a serial killer was never caught to fulfill your level of excitement? What kind of dude are you? I would want them to catch the bastard and lock him up. I would be more excited to see a killer off the streets and behind bars. Oh, and the right and wrong thing... please. Everybody knows the difference, unless they are psychotic. Regardless of your upbringing and your mindset, you can tell me that you don't know things like murder and rape are wrong. You can only attempt to justify it by saying you had a hard life or whatever.

[Narusegawa]

At 5/25/10 12:43 AM, quagmire690 wrote: the world is cruel because we want it to be,

No, that's not it. Although I agree that humans as a species aren't doing everything we could to make it 'less cruel', nature is naturally cruel and it's really humans that have just created a mindset where cruelty is something that is wrong. Of course, as a human, I also live by this mindset, but all that I'm explaining is that it's not because we want it to be cruel that it is cruel. Also, since humans define cruelty, I suppose you're right in one sense, however, since the solution to that would only be denial and ignorance, I do not believe that is a solution.

We do destroy ourselves in one sense, but then again, life is about survival of the fittest.

[Limited]

At 5/25/10 12:33 AM, Stereocrisis wrote: Okay, this thread is for the people here to decide amongst themselves...

Why is it such a cruel world?

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You see that open bracket right there? You didn't f**king close it. That's what makes this a cruel world for me.

[The-Psycho-Ragdoller]

It's probably best to just let everyone else f**k up eachothers lives. They should learn what they're doing eventually. I also think of questions like these. I would show you some stuff I typed and wrote, but people who listen to my thoughts don't like the way I word it. My sister says I "bash" things.