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What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 03:11 PM Reply

I apologise if I am making this thread in the incorrect place, or if this get asked a lot, as I am not a regular of these forums. I felt that I should post here anyway as I thought that you would provide some helpful answers.

So, what do you hate about Flash (The program itself)?

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 03:13 PM Reply

I don't hate flash as much as I did. As As3 made it so much better.
However I wish it was more class oriented; more-so than it is now.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 03:35 PM Reply

The fact that updating to CS5 costs $200.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 04:58 PM Reply

Fear of my project getting corrupted.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 05:52 PM Reply

No file recovery whatsoever.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 06:06 PM Reply

Crappy all-over-the-place performance.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 06:06 PM Reply

Crappy all-over-the-place performance.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 06:32 PM Reply

At 5/19/10 03:13 PM, CompleteDouche wrote: I don't hate flash as much as I did. As As3 made it so much better.
However I wish it was more class oriented; more-so than it is now.

There isn't much else you can add to make it more class oriented...


#include <stdio.h>
char*p="#include <stdio.h>%cchar*p=%c%s%c;%cmain() {printf(p,10,34,p,34,10);}";
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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 06:43 PM Reply

Do you want the long list or the short list?


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 06:52 PM Reply

fatal crashes all the time that totally remove all you effort after you saved.

no autosave i think

the actions window always goes below the bottom of the screen so i cant resize or scroll to certain parts

if you use the brush tool too much it lags a lot

the onion and timeline could be improved. they should show larger timeline boxes that have everything drawn in thumbnail

and more

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 06:58 PM Reply

At 5/19/10 06:52 PM, Jereminion wrote: no autosave i think

There's an extension for that.

if you use the brush tool too much it lags a lot

wat

and more

I'm sure.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 07:20 PM Reply

I love flash and would never hate it


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 07:48 PM Reply

At 5/19/10 06:43 PM, doctormario wrote: Do you want the long list or the short list?

:o There is a long one?

Thanks for the feedback guys.

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 08:14 PM Reply

The lack of good code hinting.

FlashDevelop solves that problem though.

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 09:11 PM Reply

At 5/19/10 06:52 PM, Jereminion wrote: fatal crashes all the time that totally remove all you effort after you saved.

If you are too stupid or lazy or uncaring to hit ctrl s at least once every 5-10 minutes then you deserve it

no autosave i think

extension

the actions window always goes below the bottom of the screen so i cant resize or scroll to certain parts

bullshit , panels can be docked pretty much anywhere.

if you use the brush tool too much it lags a lot

If you use it like a retard on 0 smoothing and never optimise strokes yeah sure

the onion and timeline could be improved. they should show larger timeline boxes that have everything drawn in thumbnail

That would be an improvement moron, its hardly practical when you have many hundreds of frames either motion tweened or whatever.

and more

what more ? its not like you've even come close the the char limit

At 5/19/10 08:14 PM, Archon68 wrote: FlashDevelop solves that problem though.

Yes of course, using a completely separate IDE solves a problem in the flash IDE right ? no.Its an alternative not a solution.

At 5/19/10 03:35 PM, blubfaceproduction wrote: The fact that updating to CS5 costs $200.

Easy bug fix for adobe right ? seriously i cant believe they haven't removed that error.

What do i hate about the flash IDE ?

Almost everything, nice idea, bad execution. If we could make swcs containing raw SVGs then not another dollar would have to be spent on that gimmickware ever again.

To single out a point or two though, the file management/library/project panel is all over the place.
Also the compile speed is vile.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 09:52 PM Reply

At 5/19/10 06:52 PM, Jereminion wrote: fatal crashes all the time that totally remove all you effort after you saved.

no autosave i think

As mentioned, there are extensions

if you use the brush tool too much it lags a lot

the onion and timeline could be improved. they should show larger timeline boxes that have everything drawn in thumbnail

Agreed except flash DOES show everything thats drawn in thumbnail. Right click on that lil box on the right side of the timeline window and it gives you that option.

Uhhhmmm...Flash is kinda buggy at times, i wish they put more thought into the animation portion of flash even though thats not its primary use. Make it more like toonboom ya kno? :P

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 09:55 PM Reply

This thread obviously cursed me.

Getting "Error creating Flash movie. There was not enough memory available." Now. AGH.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 09:57 PM Reply

Oh good, in CS5 they fixed unshift() for vectors. Previously unshift() was completely broken and I had to use an array instead for a certain situation.


#include <stdio.h>
char*p="#include <stdio.h>%cchar*p=%c%s%c;%cmain() {printf(p,10,34,p,34,10);}";
main() {printf(p,10,34,p,34,10);}

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 19th, 2010 @ 11:28 PM Reply

- No built in autosave
- Flash Player is CRAP!!! Needs to be upgraded to the point where my flashes don't lag! I mean I can run Counter Strike at 1024x786 but I can't play a 550x400 flash if I put to much crap in it.
- I wish it had unending loop protection. 3:
- Sometimes randomly crashed 3:<


If ya have something to say, PM me. I have a lot of time to spare.
Also never PM egg82.

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 12:33 AM Reply

At 5/19/10 11:28 PM, sasuke2910 wrote: - No built in autosave
- Flash Player is CRAP!!! Needs to be upgraded to the point where my flashes don't lag! I mean I can run Counter Strike at 1024x786 but I can't play a 550x400 flash if I put to much crap in it.
- I wish it had unending loop protection. 3:
- Sometimes randomly crashed 3:<

Sounds like user error imo, l2swf


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 12:49 AM Reply

At 5/19/10 09:11 PM, HDXmike wrote: a

i know you have trouble reading its ok

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 01:02 AM Reply

At 5/20/10 12:49 AM, Jereminion wrote:
At 5/19/10 09:11 PM, HDXmike wrote: a
i know you have trouble reading its ok

Win.


#include <stdio.h>
char*p="#include <stdio.h>%cchar*p=%c%s%c;%cmain() {printf(p,10,34,p,34,10);}";
main() {printf(p,10,34,p,34,10);}

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 01:03 AM Reply

Why is it when it comes to sound flash hates you.

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 01:06 AM Reply

At 5/19/10 09:11 PM, HDXmike wrote:
At 5/19/10 06:52 PM, Jereminion wrote: fatal crashes all the time that totally remove all you effort after you saved.
If you are too stupid or lazy or uncaring to hit ctrl s at least once every 5-10 minutes then you deserve it

Are you defending flash for it's shortcomings?

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 06:30 AM Reply

Fearing that my project gets too big for NG :P Happened to me a few times already.

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 06:49 AM Reply

At 5/20/10 01:06 AM, JoSilver wrote:
At 5/19/10 09:11 PM, HDXmike wrote:
At 5/19/10 06:52 PM, Jereminion wrote: fatal crashes all the time that totally remove all you effort after you saved.
If you are too stupid or lazy or uncaring to hit ctrl s at least once every 5-10 minutes then you deserve it
Are you defending flash for it's shortcomings?

Not to mention the fact that, with larger projects, saving can take a very long time. I know someone who is working on a project that takes an hour and a half to save.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 04:34 PM Reply

I still use Flash 08 from the '06 days because I don't want to leave it behind.

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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 05:01 PM Reply

At 5/20/10 06:49 AM, Hoeloe wrote: Not to mention the fact that, with larger projects, saving can take a very long time. I know someone who is working on a project that takes an hour and a half to save.

That can't be the best way to organise the project.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 08:43 PM Reply

At 5/19/10 09:11 PM, HDXmike wrote:
At 5/19/10 06:52 PM, Jereminion wrote: if you use the brush tool too much it lags a lot
If you use it like a retard on 0 smoothing and never optimise strokes yeah sure

A lot of artists put it on 0-10 smoothing for the style. Doesn't make them retarded. Flash won't lag if you 0 smooth. brushing for animation.

At 5/19/10 08:14 PM, Archon68 wrote: FlashDevelop solves that problem though.
Yes of course, using a completely separate IDE solves a problem in the flash IDE right ? no.Its an alternative not a solution.

It's an alternative solution.


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Response to What do you hate about Flash? May. 20th, 2010 @ 08:44 PM Reply

Some random things I have on my mind:

Slow as hell.
No destructors.
No way to manually delete objects or at least force garbage collection.
Using constants instead of vars doesn't speed things up. They are practically the same.
Every function call causes quite a bit of additional CPU load. No inline functions.


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