At 5/18/10 10:34 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 5/18/10 10:31 PM, OddlyPoetic wrote:
And the entire point of that system is to reform.The point of the justice system isn't to reform, it is to keep the streets safe.
Which can be done through reform. You need to save people; get them back into society, that way you have more productive members of society and less people costing the prison system money. It isn't going to keep the streets safe to keep releasing unreformed people who with claims about resorting to their former crimes. However, it's also unethical and costly to keep many people imprisoned with indefinite amounts of time. So that's why you need to release reformed people; people who see the moral, pragmatic problems of their past actions. We need therapists as well as jailers, especially for mentally deranged offenders like rapists.
I don't trust the system to imprison people without review. Think of it; why no review? If the people in question truly deserve to be in prison, then a proper review would surely prove it.Which would cost a whole lot of money when they can just take someone who obviously deserves it back
It would cost even more to keep them imprisoned. Without reviews, how are you going to determine who does and does not deserve it? What if the original conviction was wrong? We're talking about people's lives; money is not as important. Yes it will cost money, but budget isn't the issue here. Though Money is a factor :D
Beside, you start with this and soon you'll see the same being applied to every other offense.Slippery slope argument? Really? What's next, gay marriage will lead me to marrying a penguin?
No, that's just application of the principle. You allow this for "Sexually Dangerous" offenders, and then you allow for Violent ones, then financial ones, then, eventually, you have the policy in place for all offenders, being labeled "Socially Dangerous" This is called the "Foot In the Door Effect" once people agree to one request, they are more likely to agree to another, larger one.
You can't simply punish these people; you need to reform them.You really think people who have raped on several occasions non-violently can be reformed?
Not all of these people have done it several times. This would law would apply to all rapists, repeat offenders or not. I see no evidence to believe that they can or cannot be reformed. But, it's more humane to assume it's possible, and then try. Neither of us are qualified to make that claim.