George Reker Pulls A Larry Craig

[BrianEtrius]

Miami, FL- "On April 13, the "rent boy" (whom we'll call Lucien) arrived at Miami International Airport on Iberian Airlines Flight 6123, after a ten-day, fully subsidized trip to Europe. He was soon followed out of customs by an old man with an atavistic mustache and a desperate blond comb-over, pushing an overburdened baggage cart.

That man was George Alan Rekers, of North Miami - the callboy's client and, as it happens, one of America's most prominent anti-gay activists. Rekers, a Baptist minister who is a leading scholar for the Christian right, left the terminal with his gay escort, looking a bit discomfited when a picture of the two was snapped with a hot-pink digital camera."

So let me get this straight. A very famous anti-gay activist with a Ph.d with a record of being bias against gays is caught in a public airport with a gay prostitute with pictures. Guess you don't have to be smart to get a PhD.

Sadly, Reker cannot claim to have a wide stance.

[HibiscusKazeneko]

Yaranaika?

[Ericho]

This does not surprise me as this sort of thing seems to happen all the time. We should all remember Ted Haggard and his incident with a male prostitute. I guess all men are perverts and they want sex so badly, they will get it in any way they can, even if that means doing it with the same sex. That is why celibacy does not work.

[aviewaskewed]

At 5/6/10 03:25 PM, Ericho wrote: I guess all men are perverts and they want sex so badly, they will get it in any way they can, even if that means doing it with the same sex.

No, I think what it is is there's a lot of closeted self-hating gays. I also find it eyebrow raising you would put this idea out there because it sounds like your saying gay sex is "wrong" or "perverted"

Also, celibacy doesn't work because it's a denial of a natural urge, every living thing has a biological urge to reproduce. Celibacy denies it, therefore you have an unnatural sanction on a powerful natural urge.

[adrshepard]

At 5/6/10 04:07 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Also, celibacy doesn't work because it's a denial of a natural urge, every living thing has a biological urge to reproduce. Celibacy denies it, therefore you have an unnatural sanction on a powerful natural urge.

Just like I have a natural urge to punch people who piss me off in the face. The goddamn LAW says I can't, putting an unnatural sanction on a powerful natural urge.

At best, you can say celibacy is difficult. It is possible.

Anyway, Rekers isn't gay. He was just trying to convert him to heterosexuality. If you want to cure the sick, you must walk among them.
Biased article, too.

[fli]

At 5/6/10 04:07 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: No, I think what it is is there's a lot of closeted self-hating gays. I also find it eyebrow raising you would put this idea out there because it sounds like your saying gay sex is "wrong" or "perverted"

Actually, I think there exists some same sex couples whose sexual encounters are based soley because there aren't any other available "holes" to fuck.

I've written a short play based on that, "All Cats are Grey"--

Sexuality is not set in stone, and there is certainly degrees within that too.
But sexuality, to me, is based on culture-- I'm gay because I'm in that community. Not because I prefer to sleep with a guy than a girl.

Heck, I've slept with girls before-- and even doing that, I wasn't heterosexual.

And I think it's possible for heterosexuals to sleep with the same sex... and still be heterosexuals (at least, culturally.)

[fli]

At 5/6/10 06:25 PM, adrshepard wrote: Just like I have a natural urge to punch people who piss me off in the face. The goddamn LAW says I can't, putting an unnatural sanction on a powerful natural urge.

At best, you can say celibacy is difficult. It is possible.

*eyerollie*
Honey, at best, celibacy for you is easy as pie...

:OH NO HE DID'NT...

Anyway, Rekers isn't gay. He was just trying to convert him to heterosexuality. If you want to cure the sick, you must walk among them.
Biased article, too.

How was Rekers gonna tell him that... with a dick muffling his mouth?

[Proteas]

... he was seen in an airport with a gay escort... and that makes him gay?

Really? So this is guilt by association?

Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty," or do we just so happen to waive that idea when it comes to republican sex scandals?

[thedo12]

At 5/6/10 07:01 PM, Proteas wrote: ... he was seen in an airport with a gay escort... and that makes him gay?

Really? So this is guilt by association?

Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty," or do we just so happen to waive that idea when it comes to republican sex scandals?

Really after the last thread you tried this in?

If someone is seen with a gay prostitute it is more then likely there gay, especially when there openly against gays . Of course it could be some weird weird coincidence , but I find that to be unlikely.

[Proteas]

At 5/6/10 07:15 PM, thedo12 wrote: Really after the last thread you tried this in?

Yeah, really. God forbid anybody actually wait for the evidence to come in before passing judgment first, it must be another gay-hating republican in the closet.

If someone is seen with a gay prostitute it is more then likely there gay, especially when there openly against gays . Of course it could be some weird weird coincidence , but I find that to be unlikely.

And I find it equally unlikely that this is what you make it out to be, and not simply a case of the people on this board chomping at the bit for another reason to participate in their favorite pastime; bash on the republicans some more.

[adrshepard]

At 5/6/10 06:31 PM, fli wrote: But sexuality, to me, is based on culture-- I'm gay because I'm in that community. Not because I prefer to sleep with a guy than a girl.

Wow. So when you turn down a guy, do you say something like, "Sorry, I'm not actually a homosexual; I'm in it for the fashion and the goofiness?"

Heck, I've slept with girls before-- and even doing that, I wasn't heterosexual.

Must have been a bit disappointing for the girls those times.

Anyway, Rekers isn't gay. He was just trying to convert him to heterosexuality. If you want to cure the sick, you must walk among them.

How was Rekers gonna tell him that... with a dick muffling his mouth?

You have to cater the message to the individual. One way to gain someone's trust is to make him feel valued, convince him that he has a unique talent. What else could Rekers work with when it came to a male prostitute?

[BrianEtrius]

At 5/6/10 07:01 PM, Proteas wrote: ... he was seen in an airport with a gay escort... and that makes him gay?

Really? So this is guilt by association?

Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty," or do we just so happen to waive that idea when it comes to republican sex scandals?

"10 day, fully paid trip to Europe"

You're not going to take a gay prostitute on a 10 day all expense paid trip to Europe just to talk about how much of a sinner he is.

[thedo12]

At 5/6/10 07:26 PM, Proteas wrote:
Yeah, really. God forbid anybody actually wait for the evidence to come in before passing judgment first, it must be another gay-hating republican in the closet.

This is evidence , it may not be "proof" however it's a good sign he's probably gay. Im not saying it's 100 percent or even close to it just that there's enough evidence to suggest he's most likely gay.

And I find it equally unlikely that this is what you make it out to be, and not simply a case of the people on this board chomping at the bit for another reason to participate in their favorite pastime; bash on the republicans some more.

This isn't about republicans it's about people who bash gays regularly and publicly , and then hang out with gay people . If your publicly against something and have a agenda against it and then are seen associating with it we have the right to criticize you for that.

[Proteas]

At 5/6/10 07:50 PM, BrianEtrius wrote: You're not going to take a gay prostitute on a 10 day all expense paid trip to Europe just to talk about how much of a sinner he is.

Then show me evidence that anything happened.

That's all I ask for. I'm not asking for the moon, the stars, Carmen Electra's phone number, the answer behind why 23 is such a magical number or the reason why we exist, I'm just asking for a reason for you guys to draw this conclusion beyond partisan bias.

At 5/6/10 08:30 PM, thedo12 wrote: This is evidence , it may not be "proof" however it's a good sign he's probably gay. Im not saying it's 100 percent or even close to it just that there's enough evidence to suggest he's most likely gay.

No, it's not. A piece of luggage that accidentally rips open in the middle of the airport and is shown to be full of leather outfits, adult toys, gay porn and a dvd copy of "Pricilla; Queen of the Desert" is evidence that he's gay. Photos of this guy in a compromising sex act is evidence he's gay. A confession that he is gay is evidence that he is gay.

This isn't about republicans it's about people who bash gays regularly and publicly , and then hang out with gay people . If your publicly against something and have a agenda against it and then are seen associating with it we have the right to criticize you for that.

Yeah, which just so conveniently only happens to republicans. Nobody says jack shit about democratic sex scandals despite the fact that they tend to be much more egregious violations of ethical code (statutory rape, rape, prostitution), never-mind the hypocrisy aspect of it when you try to claim the moral and political high-ground OVER republicans.

But go on ahead, sit there and tell me this isn't another jolly round of Republican Ripping. I might just believe you this time.

[thedo12]

At 5/6/10 09:19 PM, Proteas wrote:

No, it's not. A piece of luggage that accidentally rips open in the middle of the airport and is shown to be full of leather outfits, adult toys, gay porn and a dvd copy of "Pricilla; Queen of the Desert" is evidence that he's gay. Photos of this guy in a compromising sex act is evidence he's gay. A confession that he is gay is evidence that he is gay.

I don't think you fully grasp what constitutes what evidence is , if you have a knife with your finger prints on it at a murder seen that's evidence against you , now it's not enough to establish that you committed the crime however it's still evidence.

Yeah, which just so conveniently only happens to republicans. Nobody says jack shit about democratic sex scandals despite the fact that they tend to be much more egregious violations of ethical code (statutory rape, rape, prostitution),

Sexual harrasment ,rape , prostitution happen every day , however it's not every day that a publicly anti-gay advocate is found with a gay prostitute.

never-mind the hypocrisy aspect of it when you try to claim the moral and political high-ground OVER republicans.

Yes because everyone who rips on republicans are democrats , and because there are few bad apples in the party you support that makes you amoral?

[Proteas]

At 5/6/10 11:10 PM, thedo12 wrote: I don't think you fully grasp what constitutes what evidence is , if you have a knife with your finger prints on it at a murder seen that's evidence against you , now it's not enough to establish that you committed the crime however it's still evidence.

I grasp the concept of evidence just fine. What you don't grasp is the idea that all you have in this instance is a fingerprint, not a fullblown evidence to make a murder conviction with.

Sexual harrasment ,rape , prostitution happen every day , however it's not every day that a publicly anti-gay advocate is found with a gay prostitute.

Carefully consider the way you worded this statement. Sexual harassment, rape, and prostitution happen every day? But you pay more attention to the anti-gay advocate who is seen in public with a gay guy?

Yes because everyone who rips on republicans are democrats , and because there are few bad apples in the party you support that makes you amoral?

I am not a republican, I'm just a guy who is fed up with double standards.

[poxpower]

See Proteas, the reason people like these stories of "dipshit anti-gay nutbar found dipping penis in shaven brazillian manboy anus" is that we love delicious irony.

The more specific, the funnier. For instance, if there was a politician who was loudly against keeping ferrets as pets but we found out he had an entire room full of ferrets in his house, it would rule and we'd laugh and laugh at his dumb ass.

We laugh because we don't expect them to be that fucking stupid. We understand why a politician cheats on his wife. That makes some kind of sense. But when he's extremely anti-gay yet secretly the Michael Jordan of rimjobs or the Richard Simmons of Richard Simmons, we laugh and point and rejoice that this terrible, small-minded hypocrite was found out : D

Plus it's not really sad. He didn't rape anyone. He just got caught being a moron. It's all upside!

[aviewaskewed]

At 5/6/10 06:25 PM, adrshepard wrote: Just like I have a natural urge to punch people who piss me off in the face. The goddamn LAW says I can't, putting an unnatural sanction on a powerful natural urge.

It is unnatural actually. Anything we have to think up isn't. But yeah, that's a case where the unnatural sanction is actually a good thing.

At best, you can say celibacy is difficult. It is possible.

Yeah...it is, but for me it's a bit of "why?"

Also...haven't we heard this line of "he was just trying to help him, it's not what it looked like" line before and it always ends the same way. Granted this could always be the exception but...yeah, I guess I'm just sick of playing this game.

[aviewaskewed]

You know how Republicans can stop landing in these situations? They can stop identifying themselves as the party that caters to the anti-gay activists in society. They can stop acting like homosexuality is something that needs to be "cured".

Also the Democrat side does (at least occasionally) get coverage in this area equal to republican scandals, remember Jim McGreevey?

[Proteas]

At 5/7/10 12:17 AM, poxpower wrote: See Proteas, the reason people like these stories of "dipshit anti-gay nutbar found dipping penis in shaven brazillian manboy anus" is that we love delicious irony.

And this is the kind of crap I'm talking about.

You know what, I'll paint a picture for you.

Say Fli gets off an airplane flight at San Jose International Airport, and a few minutes later, I get off the airplane behind him. We're both at baggage claim, and fli -- being the nice guy he is -- helps me get my bags off the baggage claim turn-style, and somebody takes a picture of the two of us together.

According to the logic presented in this topic, I'm FLAMING. It doesn't matter what either of us say about the other or what actually happened, I'm now a flamer by my association with fli based on everyone else's perception of our being seen in public together.

Now, tell me that's not fucked up.

At 5/7/10 12:48 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Also the Democrat side does (at least occasionally) get coverage in this area equal to republican scandals, remember Jim McGreevey?

Nope, and a forum search only turns up one result... in general forum.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 5/7/10 12:05 PM, Proteas wrote: (bad example)
...
According to the logic presented in this topic, I'm FLAMING. It doesn't matter what either of us say about the other or what actually happened, I'm now a flamer by my association with fli based on everyone else's perception of our being seen in public together.

Now, tell me that's not fucked up.

dude did you even read the article?

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"In his interview with New Times, Lucien didn't want to impugn his client, but he made it clear they met through Rentboy.com, which is the only website on which he advertises his services. Neither Google nor any other search engine picks up individual Rentboy.com profiles, any more than they pick up individual profiles on eHarmony or Match.com. You cannot just happen upon one.

To arrive at Lucien's site, Rekers must have accepted Rentboy.com's terms of use, thereby acknowledging he was not offended by graphic sexual material. He then would have been transported to a front page covered with images of naked, tumescent men busily sodomizing each other.

Then Rekers must have performed a search. Did he want a "rentboy," a "sugar daddy," or a "masseur"? In what country? And what city? If Rekers searched for a rent boy in Miami, he would have found approximately 80 likely candidates. He must have scrolled down the first page, past the shirtless bears and desperate ex-models, and on to page 2. There, at last, was Lucien."
---

you're acting like people are jumping the gun and making a judgment call based on political bias only without any thought about the facts surrounding the situation. but the facts are clearly there -- an old fogey anti-gay political crusader hired a young man advertising his "services" on a gay escort website to be his "traveling companion". and his only excuse is that he had surgery and needed someone to carry his bags for him? really? i mean, REALLY? your example about just happening to be randomly caught in a photo with fli is such a mischaracterization of what occurred with this Reker guy that its ridiculous. he didn't just happen to be in the same place at the same time as a gay prostitute, he hired the gay prostitute to be his traveling companion for Christ's sake. why you need to ask for evidence that "something happened" is beyond me. when Spitzer was busted for hiring a prostitute, its not like we needed to see the used condom or a tape of them having sex to know that he's a douchebag hypocrite for having prosecuted people for being in the same shit he was involving himself in.

pox is right. this doesn't have anything to do with any sort of republican witchhunt, this is just another hypocrite being exposed for the irony of his lifestyle. being gay isn't a crime, but being a political activist who champions anti-gay policies, whilst mingling with gay prostitutes on your spare time, makes you an interminable fuckhead who doesn't deserve to be involved in the shaping of legislation.

[fli]

At 5/7/10 12:05 PM, Proteas wrote: Say Fli gets off an airplane flight at San Jose International Airport, and a few minutes later, I get off the airplane behind him. We're both at baggage claim, and fli -- being the nice guy he is -- helps me get my bags off the baggage claim turn-style, and somebody takes a picture of the two of us together.

Yeah, that sounds reasonable.
However, if you saw my ad on rentboy.com (as was in that situation) and it said, 'sensual', 'masculine' and 'up for anything'. 'I will do anything you say as long as you ask,'-- and then you took me a 10 day vacation...

What would people think?

People are lenient and forgiving. I believe people won't automatically assume, "gay sex," in every single situation or circumstance if we got together. I don't think people wouldn't think much of it if we just meet together as friends and went to TGIF or Black Angus for a nice dinner. That's what friends do.

But 10 day paid vacation with a guy who says he would do anything as long as you ask him... well... okay.... I guess Reker could ask that guy to go on his knees (and then pray with him.)

[fli]

At 5/5/10 10:19 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: Yaranaika?

OMFG... I read that and that is fucking nasty...

[Imperator]

At 5/7/10 12:17 AM, poxpower wrote: See Proteas, the reason people like these stories of "dipshit anti-gay nutbar found dipping penis in shaven brazillian manboy anus" is that we love delicious irony.

DELICIOUS IRONY! MUST HAVE MOAR!!

RAWR!!

I'd have to go with Pox on this one. It's what made the Tiger Woods thing such a festival too.

But the REAL question of the day is.....

Reached by New Times before a trip to Bermuda, Rekers said he learned Lucien was a prostitute only midway through their vacation

How the FUCK do you hire a male prostitute....and not know it until half way through your trip?

Did he have stroke and think "rentboy.com" was a personal butler site or something?

At 5/7/10 12:05 PM, Proteas wrote: Say Fli gets off an airplane flight at San Jose International Airport, and a few minutes later, I get off the airplane behind him. We're both at baggage claim, and fli -- being the nice guy he is -- helps me get my bags off the baggage claim turn-style, and somebody takes a picture of the two of us together.

All I want to know is where I can find the drugs you're taking, cause that's the GOOD SHIT! The drugs I know of don't make one nearly as delusional.

"I had surgery," Rekers said, "and I can't lift luggage. That's why I hired him."
He HIRED him....for TEN fuck DAYS.

This isn't a random "can you grab that bag for me real quick?" moment. He hired him, by HIS words.

You know what you do when you need someone to carry your luggage? You grab the nearest 8 year old and offer $5 to take your bags to your cab. You tip your cabby to put them in/out of the cab, you pay the bellhop at whatever hotel you're at.

You want a travelling companion, YOU BRING A DAMN FRIEND.

You DO NOT go to a website devoted to soliciting male prostitutes and hire one for 10 days and then try to play it off as "oh, I didn't know he was a hooker. I thought rentboy was just a site where people could be hired for various odd-jobs".

[aviewaskewed]

At 5/7/10 12:05 PM, Proteas wrote: Nope, and a forum search only turns up one result... in general forum.

I thought we were talking the media in general and not exclusively NG. If you're talking NG, well yeah, NG tends to have a liberal left leaning bias from what I've noticed. Which ya know, is why people probably shouldn't get their info from NG, because it's not a news source and I don't necessarily see where people need to have an "equal hearing" on the matter especially because as I said, it tends to be the right that identifies itself as stridently anti gay, and I think the point here isn't so much "look, another gay republican" it's more "oh look, an anti-gay crusader caught in a situation where it looks like he's gay"

It's the irony not the politics that's making for the lols here. Surely you see that.

[Proteas]

At 5/7/10 12:33 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote: why you need to ask for evidence that "something happened" is beyond me.

Because if there's one thing I've had beaten into my head repeatedly during my time on this forum, it's that you need concrete proof of a given phenomenon before you can claim it as being the truth. Faith that something happened isn't an acceptable form of proof. As it stands now, any and all evidence you have in this matter is circumstantial at best, Rekers' word versus Lucien's.

At 5/7/10 11:19 PM, Imperator wrote: How the FUCK do you hire a male prostitute....and not know it until half way through your trip?

Here's something none of you have considered thus far. Rekers' is a Ph.D and Th.D at the University of South Carolina... why would he bother with something so menial as finding a male escort to travel with him to europe, much less setting up the trip itself when he can pay somebody on his staff to do that for him?

Call me a delusional drug user. Pfft.

[fli]

At 5/8/10 12:24 AM, Proteas wrote: Here's something none of you have considered thus far. Rekers' is a Ph.D and Th.D at the University of South Carolina... why would he bother with something so menial as finding a male escort to travel with him to europe, much less setting up the trip itself when he can pay somebody on his staff to do that for him?

Proteas, that's what we've been saying to you.

WHY would he bother finding a male escort to travel with him to Europe... when he can get somebody on his staff?

I don't know how many more times we could say buttsecks now...

[Proteas]

At 5/8/10 12:34 AM, fli wrote: WHY would he bother finding a male escort to travel with him to Europe... when he can get somebody on his staff?

Would you want to travel to Europe for ten days with your boss?

[SteveGuzzi]

At 5/8/10 12:24 AM, Proteas wrote: Because if there's one thing I've had beaten into my head repeatedly during my time on this forum, it's that you need concrete proof of a given phenomenon before you can claim it as being the truth.

the "given phenomenon" in this thread isn't the act of gay sex, it's the appearance of soliciting gay sex.

Faith that something happened isn't an acceptable form of proof. As it stands now, any and all evidence you have in this matter is circumstantial at best, Rekers' word versus Lucien's.

Reker admitted to hiring a gay prostitute. the gay prostitute admitted to Reker hiring him.

[Proteas]

At 5/8/10 12:44 AM, SteveGuzzi wrote: the "given phenomenon" in this thread isn't the act of gay sex, it's the appearance of soliciting gay sex.

No, the given phenomenon in question is that Rekers is secretly gay, which is what all the "delicious irony" in this topic has been about. I'm just waiting for a confirmation of that fact is all.

Reker admitted to hiring a gay prostitute. the gay prostitute admitted to Reker hiring him.

Reker admitted to hiring a travel assistant, the gay prostitute denied that he was hired as such, ergo what I said earlier about one man's word versus the other.

I honestly don't think much else will come of this. Rekers isn't a public official who feels compelled to apologize to his constituents for his actions, so it's not like he owes anybody an explanation or that you could force one out of him. And the only thing Lucien will admit to is giving the old guy daily nude massages. So either (a) nothing else happened or (b) Rekers is paying this guy enough to keep his mouth shut.

I give it a week to two weeks, tops, and you guys will have forgotten about this.