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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 07:53:08 Reply

At 5/2/10 11:34 PM, ZagmenO wrote: but that particular award goes to whomever has made the best MUSIC in 2009, not who has made the biggest revolutionary change.

no, she did not make the best music. there are many more artists around here who made better music than her.

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 08:02:46 Reply

At 5/3/10 06:33 AM, FurryDemon wrote: On my phone right now, video r not load, someone waste half a minute of their lives and Pm me award details

mmkay

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 09:51:51 Reply

James you lazy, why didn't you show up :(


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 10:51:58 Reply

goddamn the massive bitching in this thread, hanias a great musician, who got in on a great flash and did some great music for it, hence she got noticed and won, its not like she was the only one in the running im sure it was a close call at the end and to be honest now theres nothing you can do about it so why keep bitching about it, theyre not gunna overturn the result, and ultimately the admins know best and its clever not to argue with them, im from the art forum there isnt even a tank award for artists and you dont see me bitching about that

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 12:37:23 Reply

At 5/3/10 10:51 AM, Ashman wrote:

:, its not like she was the only one in the running im sure it was a close call at the end and to be honest now theres nothing you can do about it so why keep bitching about it

it wasn't a close call... no one even mentioned her in the musicians of 09 suggestions thread in the AF.

and I bet you she wasn't running to get the award.

you don't know what your talking about lol

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 14:17:44 Reply

At 5/3/10 10:51 AM, Ashman wrote: im from the art forum there isnt even a tank award for artists and you dont see me bitching about that

I see what you did there.

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 15:09:34 Reply

At 5/3/10 12:37 PM, Sealander wrote: you don't know what your talking about lol

indeed i dont, because i never go to the audio forum, or the audio portal, if somethings good ill see it around the site, sure iv seen some people that are worthy of the award, but she got herself out there and got noticed by the admins and by the whole site, most people love the music in tarboy and the atmosphere it creates, im just rambling now but still its not fair to hate on someone for winning an award, just say congrats move on and try again next year, its not like she completely didnt deserve it, at least she was a worthy winner

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 16:30:52 Reply

I thought the award ceremony this year was a bit poor in quality. While it was cool to have a live stream from a party at the Newgrounds HQ, the audio and visuals were pretty bad. The ceremony itself was late, and at least on one occasion the winner was accidentally shown before the award was announced.

It was a cool idea, but I can't say I liked it all too much. Hopefully you guys adopt a standard process of announcing these awards. Perhaps next time you can give a direct feed as opposed to a webcam come time for the awards?

Other than that, I was satisfied with the winner. The HQ looks like it is really coming along too.

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 18:56:56 Reply

RAWRZ?

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-03 23:07:56 Reply

Pretty decent, they should put it on a flash though soon. Webcam stream wasn't so great of an idea, makes me feel a little excluded too haha.

I think Hania deserved the award too...she's a nice artist and presents herself to her fans pretty well.

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 00:57:35 Reply

At 5/3/10 04:30 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote: I thought the award ceremony this year was a bit poor in quality. While it was cool to have a live stream from a party at the Newgrounds HQ, the audio and visuals were pretty bad. The ceremony itself was late, and at least on one occasion the winner was accidentally shown before the award was announced.

practice makes perfect. and we already have ideas on how to make the next one better.

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 01:15:10 Reply

At 5/2/10 07:59 PM, Gravey wrote:
Yea, I can see this. But at the same time, would it cost too much time for an admin to post a thread that says "Musician of the year" ideas here, or "Make the audio portal better" ideas here. And then check it periodically in the last month or so leading up to the final award?

this would work.. except, its not your decision, or anyone else's on this site but Toms.
its his site, his decision. Volunteering for a site is just that volunteering. that doesnt allot you any control over the site or how the owners run it.

Its likes having the interns at Disney demand to have a say as to what the next Disney movie will be based on.

And yah what Rig did was fuckin Tacky, he pulled a Kanye ....

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 01:16:57 Reply

Nice job with those 3d animations, MC. They added a nice pro touch to the whole thing :)


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 02:53:19 Reply

congratz to the awesome winners


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 03:03:05 Reply

At 5/4/10 01:15 AM, MindChamber wrote: And yah what Rig did was fuckin Tacky, he pulled a Kanye ....

Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry, I should've cooled off for a few days.


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 03:34:49 Reply

At 5/2/10 06:02 PM, Chronamut wrote:
that is like what kanye west did to carrie underwood..

You should be ashamed of yourself mixing up Carrie Underwood with Taylor Swift.


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 08:03:10 Reply

While I do think that there are alot of great artists in the AP that deserves an award, I think choosing Hania makes perfect sense in many ways:

- She made the soundtrack to one of the biggest movies of 09, a movie that also won the award of best movie.
- She've released an album, yet she keeps submitting to NG.
- She's an amazing singer and audio artist!

Basically, I think that her getting the award sends out an IN YOUR FACE message that alot of people seem to miss: - This is first and foremost a site for movies/games, and collaborating artists of different areas of expertise may very well give users a bigger chanse of winning something. This should be a carrot for EVERYONE to start COLLABORATING more, and for the audio artists it might be interpret as a HINT that if you're contributing to alot of flashes actually making custom soundtracks/SFX, you might stand a better chanse in the tank awards.

As for the drama, it seem to more or less have settled, but it kindof brings up a valid point - alot of people in the audio-community somehow have managed to completley miss out on the points I described above, especially the COLLAB part.
This is something the ones who wishes to contribute to the forum in other ways could try to think of when organizing collabs, contests etc.

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 08:33:37 Reply

At 5/4/10 12:57 AM, MindChamber wrote: practice makes perfect. and we already have ideas on how to make the next one better.

A suggestion would be to boost the excitement of each category a little further. The movie + games had that OK, but both musician + user of the year had no list of nominees. At least a few nominees could be presented on the spot before the actual announcing of the winner, just for the extra thrill.

Also, I hope there will be an artportal-category for 2010! :)


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 08:52:16 Reply

At 5/4/10 03:34 AM, ColonelCocks wrote:
At 5/2/10 06:02 PM, Chronamut wrote:
that is like what kanye west did to carrie underwood..
You should be ashamed of yourself mixing up Carrie Underwood with Taylor Swift.

damnit THATS who it was- yes - I am ashamed - I am sorry :(

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 08:54:18 Reply

At 5/4/10 08:33 AM, Rucklo wrote:
At 5/4/10 12:57 AM, MindChamber wrote: practice makes perfect. and we already have ideas on how to make the next one better.
A suggestion would be to boost the excitement of each category a little further. The movie + games had that OK, but both musician + user of the year had no list of nominees. At least a few nominees could be presented on the spot before the actual announcing of the winner, just for the extra thrill.

Also, I hope there will be an artportal-category for 2010! :)

yeah at least throw in some random people that you never intend to vote on neways just to make it seem like there is some diversity :P

also I heard rumours that hania and the guy that made tarboy are married or something...

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 09:55:31 Reply

Just got done seeing most of the Pico Day 2010 submission and though there weren't as many this year as usual the quality was still great and there were lots of excellent Pico flashes out there so congrats to all the winners and thanks for the flashes. =)


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 10:03:44 Reply

Wow, so much ass kissing going on in here :/

Mods + admins, great job running newgrounds. Tarboy was a great flash and deserved to win. I seem to recall reading that there was a panel of judges that picked tarboy. There was also a panel that picked the game of the year (I missed which game it was/ don't play flash games.) Was there a panel of judges that picked hania and if so, who?

Aside from liljim, most of the admins don't really get involved with the audio community (and liljim only once in a blue moon when he decides it's time to defend the system he helped create.) Fact is, you guys SUCK at taking any sort of criticism. While our responses may have been vaguely extreme, you guys have been nothing but hypocrites.


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 11:36:26 Reply

At 5/4/10 08:33 AM, Rucklo wrote:
At 5/4/10 12:57 AM, MindChamber wrote: practice makes perfect. and we already have ideas on how to make the next one better.
A suggestion would be to boost the excitement of each category a little further. The movie + games had that OK, but both musician + user of the year had no list of nominees. At least a few nominees could be presented on the spot before the actual announcing of the winner, just for the extra thrill.

Also, I hope there will be an artportal-category for 2010! :)

I agree on all counts, Ill need to block off a month for the rendering but it'll be worth it. I actually considered doing a montage for the best user and best musician, and was in the process of collecting clips when I ran out of time, but yeah that would definitely make for a cooler experience.

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 11:55:40 Reply

At 5/4/10 10:03 AM, Quarl wrote: Wow, so much ass kissing going on in here :/

Mods + admins, great job running newgrounds. Tarboy was a great flash and deserved to win. I seem to recall reading that there was a panel of judges that picked tarboy. There was also a panel that picked the game of the year (I missed which game it was/ don't play flash games.) Was there a panel of judges that picked hania and if so, who?

Tom picked her, he has a pm, take it up with him.

Aside from liljim, most of the admins don't really get involved with the audio community (and liljim only once in a blue moon when he decides it's time to defend the system he helped create.) Fact is, you guys SUCK at taking any sort of criticism. While our responses may have been vaguely extreme, you guys have been nothing but hypocrites.

This a testement to how much you don't know, really.. if you aren't in the office, you really have no idea whats going on, and are clueless to make assumptions such as this one. and I wouldn't call your comments extreme, just tactless and rude. if there was a problem where the way something was handled thats what the mod forums are for, or PMs....

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 11:58:02 Reply

At 5/4/10 10:03 AM, Quarl wrote: Wow, so much ass kissing going on in here :/

Aside from liljim, most of the admins don't really get involved with the audio community (and liljim only once in a blue moon when he decides it's time to defend the system he helped create.) Fact is, you guys SUCK at taking any sort of criticism. While our responses may have been vaguely extreme, you guys have been nothing but hypocrites.

We suck terribly at taking criticism. We also hate the audio portal. You can tell this because we transcript every conversation we have about the site and none of them involve the audio portal. In fact, Rob and myself... both being admins... absolutely did NOT have a long talk with Rucklo, a prominent audio mod, about how the audio portal should be a top priority after we unveil our current stack of projects, and we certainly did NOT discuss new tools to help promote and organize audio so artists would have a much more appropriate platform for an artform we all agree is not important in any way.

The other thing we refused to do this year (because we also hate the audio community, not just portal) was to go out of our way to pick a user of the year who does nothing to validate the importance of quality audio in collaborative publications.

We are huge hypocrites because we admins put our admin forum cliques ahead of the overall newgrounds community. If we reached out to new channels that might encourage people to get outside the box a bit more and wouldn't that just suck!?

Thanks for exposing us for what we are Quarl, I think everything will be better now!


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 13:40:32 Reply

At 5/4/10 11:58 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Thanks for exposing us for what we are Quarl, I think everything will be better now!

I will have to admit, I do realize that much of the audio community became a little peeved when hania won.

I felt a little tweaked, but thats wont stop me from posting my music on newgrounds. I love the website, I love the community, I love releasing my tracks for people to use in their flash movies, and when new musicians ask me where to post there stuff online, I say the newgrounds audio portal.

although the portal is not perfect, it is truly the best spot on the web to post your stuff.

so, until you guys really pump it up, its good enough for me, and I will continue to post my music

I don't think it goes said enough, because us musicians tend to fixate on the bad parts of things, the audio portal rocks, so Thank you guys for creating such a great place.

Hopefully if more of the audio community realizes that without you guys, we wouldn't have an audio portal in the first place, and they realize that even with its flaws its the best portal on the web, then you guys will actually be more motivated to improve it.

but until that moment happens, at least know that I appreciate the portal and will try to get more involved with the ng community, and continue posting my music.

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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 13:41:37 Reply

At 5/4/10 11:55 AM, MindChamber wrote:
Tom picked her, he has a pm, take it up with him.

Word. This is really all I needed to know. From now on I'll forward all my complaints to tom. Really though, at this point nothing can be said or done. Hania got a tank. She deserves credit for her work definitely but what's upsetting people is that there were way better candidates for musician of the year.

At 5/4/10 11:55 AM, MindChamber wrote: I wouldn't call your comments extreme, just tactless and rude. if there was a problem where the way something was handled thats what the mod forums are for, or PMs....

Noted. Sorry for being an asshole.

At 5/4/10 11:58 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: I'm also an asshole!

Everyone already knows that pg.


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Response to Tank Awards, Winners Video 2010-05-04 14:12:49 Reply

I just want to know what it is the admins have against the chat regulars who so desire a chat. I hear they've been waiting every weekend for three years now, and to be snubbed of even a recognition of Best Chat User of the Year award to anyone of their members is entirely distasteful. I hear they eagerly await their slave admins release, but that if it doesn't happen their will be much blood on the walls of HQ. I just thought I would inquire and pass on the warning to the apathetic e-apartheid enforcers that claim to "RUN" this website.

muchado, cool top pics. I'd like to through out a pleasant William and Sly thumbs up even though it didn't make the list. I enjoyed that game more than any other out this year and it was artistically well done. But I'm cool with keeping tabs on who I do and don't like and I don't need validation in the form of a metallic tank to like what games I do. Plus, Kajenx (sp?) got plenty of PR as one of the first GoTW as it is.

Anyhow, I'm going to let you all be very upset at each other again now. Excuse me while I back out of the room. I wouldn't want to get in the middle of a drama fest. :p You users are being silly & well, its fairly typical user-admin interaction going on here. Toodles.


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