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Legal System Can Steal From You.

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Legal System Can Steal From You. 2010-04-30 17:25:14


All right guys, I'm back, and I am PISSED OFF. After listening to a problem of my friend's, (IN which he may come under FBI investigation for tripping download limits) I decided to search through the internet to see what could be done about this. As he has very little money, and the computer is one of his few possessions and the only thing that he has to really appreciate, I went to search on how to get seized property back in the event that he has to use it.

DO you know what I found out? The FBI, cops, any part of the judicial system that has a search warrant to seize your property can take it, and then never ever give it back, even if you are found not guilty of any crime. It can be simply held for the rest of your life or sold for auction, no matter how much evidence shows that there is no reason for them to have it, because once it is confiscated, it can be considered to be up for forfeiture, and to get it back after that, you have to win an entirely new court case. All the while, this may take up vast amounts of money, and time. And you might not even win the case.

This is THEFT. People who have never committed any crime can, and have, their property taken away from them permanently because they were suspected of a crime. It is extortion, violation of the right to own property, the right to a fair trial, and the right to privacy.

It is an absolute outrage that innocent people are harmed by the technical parts of bureaucracy that allows police to abuse their powers and still be protected by law. While there may be some grey areas to lawmaking, and places where it is hard to tell the difference, there is no grey area in punishing innocent people because the government wants to extort as much of your money and time as it can.

Tell other people about this, tell anyone you meet, this MUST CHANGE. Make it a problem that is too big to be ignored. People complain about the problems of the government, police, whatever? Here's a place to start. Abolish this violation of our rights, now.

Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2010-04-30 17:29:08


At 4/30/10 05:27 PM, Jawdyn wrote: Where I live you, an innocent looking grandmother can rob you. I guess what im trying to say is, shit happens.

Yeah, that's a great reason. If I start punching you for no reason, is "Well I'm already doing it, so why should I stop" a good reason for me to keep stopping?

Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2010-04-30 17:31:59


I find no problem with this if you have committed a crime, but if you are found innocent they should have to give your things back.

I CALL BULLSHIT!


My opinions are so useless, I don't even listen to them.

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Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2010-04-30 17:37:53


At 4/30/10 05:28 PM, StarF68 wrote: Well at first I was going to go on a rant about how if you break the law and they have a warrant it's your own damn fault, but once you stated that they can keep your stuff even if you're found innocent, well, I agree that's pretty messed up.

Can you provide some sources for this? I'm not even sure I completely believe that to be true, because it seems so blatantly wrong that it can't even be true.

Yes, I can.
http://www.fear.org/whatodo-1.html
http://criminal.lawyers.com/Getting-Prop erty-Back-after-an-Arrest.html Notice the last paragraph:
"Unfortunately, there is no absolute guarantee that your property will ever be returned to you intact and in time for you to preserve its value. For your attorney to make the best possible arguments on your behalf, it's important for you to document all details about your property, and all reasons that you need it returned. "
http://detnews.com/article/20091112/METR O/911120388/Police-property-seizures-ens nare-even-the-innocent
http://www.ct.gov/ova/cwp/view.asp?a=219 0&q=304416 There is nothing in this about requiring law enforcement to return the property at the end of a court case where the defendant is not guilty. Also note III B
Further, III E allows for such siezed property to be retuned at the time of final disposition. However, they may continue to hold it indefinitely by simply delcaring it to still be forfeiture
http://www.fear.org/ffjournal/ClymoreIII .html
http://forum.freeadvice.com/arrests-sear ches-warrants-procedure-26/return-seized -property-please-help-465097.html
http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthre ad.php?t=18891
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/section.php ?id=187
http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1lz3 h-we-had-property-seized-under-a-warrant -for-investigation-for
If you want to continue research, you can find a LOT of this.

Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2010-04-30 17:42:29


At 4/30/10 05:39 PM, bassoon wrote: fascist states like the us doesn't have any reason to harass you lest you revolt

or think of revolting. they can read your mind, you know

Oh, they don't need reason, but they do it anyway.

You are protected by the US constitution in your right to overthrow an unjust government, but once you tell someone that you intend to, and once you begin to plan to, it's considered conspiracy to damage the government, and now it's also terrorism.

Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2010-04-30 18:37:54


At 4/30/10 05:41 PM, ColinStark wrote: Yep. Paper and ink controls your life.

More than you know.

Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2010-04-30 18:39:15


America, Fuck Yeah!

Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2010-04-30 19:21:22


i know fuck them


"Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?

was her name tenneassi

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Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2011-11-02 22:21:16


At 4/30/10 05:25 PM, goldblade1 wrote: Abolish this violation of our rights, now.

I will not help you.

Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2011-11-02 23:45:24


The government is corrupt..?

Wh-what!? Nonsense, I refuse to believe it!

Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2011-11-02 23:52:08


Old thread is old.
But definitely an interesting thing.


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Response to Legal System Can Steal From You. 2012-06-09 09:41:22


The legal system was always messed up. Law-abiding citizens get trouble, and law-breakers are set free. The system already has executed an innocent, set free thousands of criminals, and is simply operating on the wrong side. It's often underfunded and constantly neglected.

No wonder the world is falling apart. The legal system (and the government) needs to smarten up and stop catching innocents and stop letting the criminals go free!