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At 12/29/10 10:08 AM, ShadowWest wrote: If I can go 44-5 with a silenced SPAS-12 in a game of Team Deathmatch, then so can you. All you have to do is just use whatever type of gun you're using effectively. For example, on Array, you shouldn't be running around the outside of the map with an Olympia or something, you should be hanging back and picking people off at a distance with a sniper rifle etc.

The SPAS-12 is fucking garbage and will only kill something in two hits if you fire point blank because of lag and fucking terrible hitbox detection. Or if you get a headshot, but shot doesn't one shot unless you were already at point blank range and aiming at their head. Oh wait, by then, you'll have been killed in a knife lunge.

However, I will say FUCK THE FAMAS, needs to be toned down, way too overpowered.

This, fucking hell.

Stop complaining, if you don't like the game then sell it.

I do like it.

When I run around with the Aug and nothing else in Team Deathmatch.

Bitching and complaining aside, Treyarch needs to balance this game. Its worse than World of Warcraft in terms of fairness.

At 12/29/10 05:25 PM, Seriana wrote: Bitching and complaining aside, Treyarch needs to balance this game. Its worse than World of Warcraft in terms of fairness.

What exactly? I don't think there's too much difference in guns really. I don't think there's any gun that's too overpowered. I think the main factor that influences alot of kills and deaths is connection. Loads of times i'm shooting someone before he's even started aiming at me, yet he still manages to bring up his gun, shoot and kill me before he dies. For some reason I get 2 bar connection alot. And I have this router to myself, NAT is open and all that. It really pisses me off >:(

At 12/29/10 05:36 PM, Life-Stream wrote: I don't think there's too much difference in guns really.

There is a depressing difference. Sniper rifles often take three hits, body shot, to kill someone. A three round burst from a Famas will drop someone. Its only one in every ten shots I get One Shot, One Kill.
Shotguns are quite useless disbarring Scavenger + Nuketown + New players.
There seems to be no real incentive for objective games and no way to filter out the people who do nothing but camp or farm kills.

Loads of times i'm shooting someone before he's even started aiming at me, yet he still manages to bring up his gun, shoot and kill me before he dies. For some reason I get 2 bar connection alot. And I have this router to myself, NAT is open and all that. It really pisses me off >:(

Ultimately, the lag is and always will be there, but its most certainly not as frustrating as putting 4 rounds into someone with the SPAS-12 silenced then dying WHILE you're still shooting him and he puts 2 rounds in your feet with an AK-47 as you die.

At 12/29/10 05:40 PM, Seriana wrote: Ultimately, the lag is and always will be there, but its most certainly not as frustrating as putting 4 rounds into someone with the SPAS-12 silenced then dying WHILE you're still shooting him and he puts 2 rounds in your feet with an AK-47 as you die.

I usually blame these kind of things on connection/lag. 4 rounds well placed should definitely kill someone, hell 2 rounds usually does kill them. You have a good connection?

At 12/29/10 05:25 PM, Seriana wrote: I do like it.

When I run around with the Aug and nothing else in Team Deathmatch.

Bitching and complaining aside, Treyarch needs to balance this game. Its worse than World of Warcraft in terms of fairness.

dnt dis w0rld 0f w4rcr4ft n00b

This game is much better balanced than MW2 was, like, there actually is some balance here.

The only things I can really complain about are that the Famas and 74u are a bit overused. But if I can do fine with my pea-shooter Skorpion, you should be able to too... Play better, I guess?

At 12/29/10 05:46 PM, Life-Stream wrote: I usually blame these kind of things on connection/lag. 4 rounds well placed should definitely kill someone, hell 2 rounds usually does kill them. You have a good connection?

Due to crap hitbox detection, most of the hits don't land, the others don't kill. 1 well placed shot with the SPAS-12 should kill ANYTHING, but it doesn't.

Dunno. Maybe I should have got the PC version.

At 12/29/10 06:12 PM, Seriana wrote:

At 12/29/10 05:46 PM, Life-Stream wrote: I usually blame these kind of things on connection/lag. 4 rounds well placed should definitely kill someone, hell 2 rounds usually does kill them. You have a good connection?

Due to crap hitbox detection, most of the hits don't land, the others don't kill. 1 well placed shot with the SPAS-12 should kill ANYTHING, but it doesn't.

I don't know what perks you're running, but: Lightweight, Steady Aim, Marathon and always double tap. Even if you're point blank to 5 feet away just double tap, you never know.

From my experience using any other perk loadout with the SPAS limits it's potential. Without lightweight you're often going to be too far away to be lethal and without steady aim you're going to be wasting ammo spitting on the same guy 3-4 times instead of 1-2 times. Marathon is just a given, just flank everybody the entire game, get behind them and sweep the hot spots until you get unlucky then do it again.

Many people would say NO, I NEED SLEIGHT OF HAND! Well, just take cover and reload after your kill(s) and if you've got 5 shots or more left don't bother until you know you're safe, it's really not too difficult. 9/10 times you'll always have time to reload unless you're on top of the enemy spawn or camping and getting a retaliatory swarm.

And if you're running Scavenger just don't, when you start running low pick up weapons and improvise. Steady aim and lightweight are handy perks for any weapon aside from sniper rifles (OH SHIT QUIKSCOPEZ) but you're bound to run across plenty of AK-74u's and the like which will tear shit up just as effectively.

Also, if you're using the suppressor (you should be) it's going to take a little while for the surviving nearby enemy to actually spot you, barring a blackbird or UAV, always make an attempt to pop in a few shells after a suppressor kill unless you've got somebody else in your sights/on top of you according to your radar.

I should upload more clips of my games, I use the SPAS more or less exclusively and I can effortlessly pull off 2:1+ games under almost any conditions and I know I have a TERRIBLE connection. 2-3 bars all day, 4 bars is a miracle but when I do get it it's just unfair for everybody else.

I really don't even play this game all too much anymore, I don't actually know why I still read this topic. I suppose I feel that I'm playing vicariously.

/shrug

I'll give a try. I personally find I can't live without the perks I'm using now and my K:D goes even lower if I change out for the SPAS-12.

The trollz will be hatin' on me.. but im a quickscoper :(

I dont like using submachine guns. I dont think it takes skill to do xxDr0pSh0tzxz Pr0zz MLG. I think it takes skill to snipe.. so I do it. anyone who wants to disagree.. feel free :). I enjoy making youtube videos of my "nice" kills and uploading them for my subscribers.

Steady Aim makes a slight difference for the better changing out for Sleight of Hand but I can't lose Scavenger for the first.

At 12/29/10 09:01 PM, Seriana wrote: Steady Aim makes a slight difference for the better changing out for Sleight of Hand but I can't lose Scavenger for the first.

Scavenger isn't that great. Like Matt said, just pick up another weapon.

Scavenger is great when it's Pro, and paired with Warlord Pro and Nova Gas.

I just got it for Christmas, beat the story today, and apparently Nintendo's online for black-ops doesn't work. I waited for a half-hour for it to log-in, but to no avail.

At 12/29/10 10:27 PM, Life-Stream wrote: Scavenger is great when it's Pro, and paired with Warlord Pro and Nova Gas.

I might have to try that.

I think PSN crashed.

6 more caps for Marathon Pro. I need to get this before I go to bed, damn.

Life-Stream, I'll play with you Friday if I can.

Okay, I give up. I'll get Marathon Pro tomorrow.

Also, Aug Suppressor + Scavenger + Sleight of Hand + Marathon = Unstoppable killing machine

At 12/29/10 11:40 PM, Seriana wrote: Life-Stream, I'll play with you Friday if I can.

Sure. Damn I hate that Nuketown map. That sabotage game we played yesterday was hell. I started off really bad, but ended up coming back a bit. Still wasn't a great game. I tried out the SPAS again, after all the talk about it. I was on 2 bar and still managed to take guys down with 2 sprays. You gotta be pretty close though.

At 12/30/10 12:05 AM, Seriana wrote: Okay, I give up. I'll get Marathon Pro tomorrow.

Also, Aug Suppressor + Scavenger + Sleight of Hand + Marathon = Unstoppable killing machine

I don't get the point in using Scavenger. Even when I go a while I usually don't -need- that extra ammo. Though I always have a sidearm. So I always go with Hardline. Also you should factor in that I play HC only so it makes it a little more pointless. Only 1-3 shots to take someone out usually.

Not a huge fan of the Aug either. It's alright, but I think that the Galil, AK-47, and Famas are a lot better. With a suppressor, of course.

At 12/30/10 09:45 AM, ironraven24 wrote: I don't get the point in using Scavenger.

I only really pair it up with SMGs, as they tend to start off with less ammo, and smaller clips.

At 12/30/10 12:05 AM, Seriana wrote: Okay, I give up. I'll get Marathon Pro tomorrow.

Also, Aug Suppressor + Scavenger + Sleight of Hand + Marathon = Unstoppable killing machine

I use an AUG with suppressor + Red dot changed to a four part square retical + Ghost (need to destroy a sentry for pro) + Warlord Pro + Ninja Pro and it does me solid.

At 12/30/10 09:45 AM, ironraven24 wrote: I don't get the point in using Scavenger. Even when I go a while I usually don't -need- that extra ammo.

I usually burn through ammo quickly, especially with the AUG. Don't really like picking up other peoples' weapons.

I don't want to spoil anything for anyone, so I'll be a bit vague. During the mission Rebirth, I got to the point where you get off the streets. After killing all of the enemies outside of the building, I got an error code. I was kicked out of the mission and all of my progress was erased, and I was forced to start from the very beginning. Does anyone know what happened?

At 12/30/10 05:58 PM, N30Chaos wrote: I don't want to spoil anything for anyone, so I'll be a bit vague. During the mission Rebirth, I got to the point where you get off the streets. After killing all of the enemies outside of the building, I got an error code. I was kicked out of the mission and all of my progress was erased, and I was forced to start from the very beginning. Does anyone know what happened?

Rebirth? Second to last level? The one with Mason and Reznov going in to kill Steiner?

Hudson goes in to try and evacuate Steiner since he is the last person who can interpret the numbers for the sleeper cells in America, and he knows where the broadcast is.
When you get to him, you see Alex Mason say, "My name is Viktor Reznov, and I will have my revenge!" and he shoots Steiner.
Hudson beats Mason unconscious, says something like, "What the hell did they do to you in Vorkuta?"

You see a bit of explanation behind Mason and why he's hallucinating Reznov and after that. Read the Call of Duty wikia for a better explanation, and the ending.

The ending of the story is rather anticlimatic and predictable. Good guys win, America is saved, yay, etc.

Er : No, I'm wrong. Mason knows how to interpret the numbers that Hudson and Weaver keep talking about. Steiner wasn't the last one.

That's why the CIA Black Ops are torturing Mason : To try and get the knowledge of how to interpret the numbers to stop Nova 6 out of him, but he is genuinely insane and doesn't remember until after they break through his brainwashing.

At 12/30/10 06:15 PM, Seriana wrote: The ending of the story is rather anticlimatic and predictable. Good guys win, America is saved, yay, etc.

Ah, not what happened in the story, I mean do you know what happened that caused the error?

Goddamnit, I typed all that for nothing?

At 12/30/10 06:47 PM, Seriana wrote: Goddamnit, I typed all that for nothing?

I guess. I'm sorry my friend.