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And these people that found are the same people who follow religion so deeply that they think every single thing in it is complete fact, dinosaurs are fake and everything in the world was formed when god snapped his fingers. There is tons of evidence for both Dinosaurs and Evolution, and yet you guys are yelling at us for not believing that a 5,000 year old boat on a mountain found by devout Christians and showed to the world by corrupt media is the real thing.

I'm Christian and think that you're pretty ignorant now. I posted a message in the beginning saying it's all good. But you're just bashing the atheists IMO. They're giving their thoughts on the matter and you claim that they are ignorant for not believing what you believe. I personally don't believe it's Noah's ark even though I'm Christian. But you gotta stop arguing with people because the majority most likely won't believe this.

At 4/27/10 03:40 PM, Hoeloe wrote:

At 4/27/10 03:30 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: A load of crap.

Yet again, you attack with insults rather than logic.

You talk about nautical limits as though it makes sense that a ship can carry millions of animals and yet not be able to sail far from land. If I am right, the story goes he stayed for a number of weeks afloat with the entire planet flooded.

Think about what ships did not have back then. Rudders, sails, and enough people to man oars to start off. Sure the boat would have been large enough to house a lot of animals and yes it would have enough open space to stay afloat, but I doubt if it was capable of much more than that. Even if it just floated around wherever the currents would take them for a number of weeks, I am skeptical about how far it could have gotten and how far the nearest point of land would have been.

Your whole theory totally falls down here.

Not at all, you simply fail to understand my argument so you make one up and attack it what you've created.

It could be anyone's giant boat
What makes you think it's from "Noah"?

"A group of Christian researchers claimed on Tuesday they have found the remains of Noah's Ark, located four kilometres up the side of Turkey's Mt. Ararat."

Oh, there could be no possible bias on this one. No way, no how!

So this one day I was up in some mountains and I found this massive dismembered foot. It must be Goliath's, right? RIGHT?

*Looks at it again*... God damn, just Big Foot's...

You people are more interested in being right then learning

Shame on you.

Well I'm a Christian. No way in hell am I going to get some worms crawling through my bodies in pitch black darkness while I'm burning and there are voices screaming in your head.

It's a win-win situation. Believe in God, you go to heaven. If nothing happens, then, well, nothing happens. However if there is a God and you're an atheist, life is going to suck when you die and go to eternal torment. Just believe in God and you can still be a social prick at the same time (something the bbs doesn't understand).

At 4/27/10 06:13 PM, Kokorazashi wrote: So this one day I was up in some mountains and I found this massive dismembered foot. It must be Goliath's, right? RIGHT?

*Looks at it again*... God damn, just Big Foot's...

With all due respect, you are also attempting to make the facts sound ridiculous when it is only your attitude. In the case of Noah's Ark, there is carbon dating, the fact that it is in the right Biblical area, the fact that a boat bigger than a football field made it atop the highest mountain in the region, etc...

Just because you found a foot doesn't mean it is Goliath's and you know that. Don't make up an admittedly stupid scenario and attempt to compare it to this one simply because you cannot argue against the facts.

I mean really, if you don't think it is the Ark for intelligent reasons I can respect that. But don't resort to rampant immaturity like the other guy I've been talking with.

Internet arguments are shitty, because they make dumb shiftless losers feel like they are clever and on top of the world, when they are really posting on the newgrounds.com general forums.

I think people are overreacting.

It's not like if I would find a golden cup in my backyard that dates from 2000 years ago, that it would be the holy motherfucking grail.
It's just a boat.

Go live.

Bullshit.

At 4/27/10 02:00 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: By making that statement, you have already proven that you are close-minded and uneducated. Either educate yourself here, or please leave the forums.

"Oh no, someone who might possibly not agree with me! SHUN! SHUN! SHUN!"
Secondly, you're looking for educated people? On General? That's gotta be the most retarded thing I've heard anyone say ever.

At 4/27/10 01:18 PM, studmuffin7 wrote:

First of all, the carbon dating confirms it is 4800 years old, around the time Noah is believed to have built this ark. Given that it is THAT old it does not surprise me that they did not find any animal remains or feedstocks as these things would most likely have decomposed a looooong time ago. Second, the archeological team is pretty sure it is Noah's ark.

"Around," "most likely" and "pretty sure" are not "definite." It's PLANKS. How can that POSSIBLY prove it's from a magical boat that managed to fit more than two of every animal on earth as well as enough food to support them for forty days? More importantly, where the fuck did Noah get all that lumber?

"It's not 100% that it is Noah's Ark, but we think it is 99.9% that this is it," Yeung Wing-cheung, a Hong Kong documentary filmmaker, told AFP".

But hey, I guess arrogant atheist types like yourself just know it all and have no need to listen to anyone else. Forget the fact that he and his team have degrees in archeology and scientists to perform the carbon dating, you know it all don't you?

Consider this, though: According to the bible, the world is about 4-6 thousand years old and all life was created over a week. We have SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that the world is around 4.5 billion years old and that evolution took its course over 2 billion years of it. So you're expecting us to believe that some fat old guy with a big beard could tell the universe what to do because he proclaimed himself the Almighty? Seems kinda narcissistic to me.

Ignorant bastards my ass, holy-boy.

At 4/27/10 02:02 PM, The-Eagle wrote: 2. The remains of Noah's Ark have been discovered 13,000 feet up a Turkish mountain -- according to a sensational claim by evangelical explorers.
It appears there could be some bias behind their claims.

If they were atheist or anti-evangelical, there still could have been bias, but I'm not trying to start any shit. I'm just pointing that out.

It's probably Larry King's ark.

GET IT? CAUSE HE'S OLD!

One day you all will appreciate my humor.

YOU KNOW WHAT GUYS, LET'S NOT ARGUE ABOUT RELIGION IN THIS THREAD, LET'S DISCUSS HOW THEY DISCOVERED A BOAT ON A MOUNTAIN.
Like how did it manage to get there? I mean, that is pretty cool.

*Opens up a microwaved bag of popcorn and watches the Idiocy of the bbs at it's best*

Ahh.... Religion.... Am I right fellas?

Pics or it didnt happen.

At 4/27/10 01:14 PM, studmuffin7 wrote:

I bet all of you who were dissing the Bible and saying it has no proof are eating your words right now huh.

No. If this guy did exist, he was probably some delusional old senile bastard who spent a long time on a boat fucking animals. And then later told some other old delusional senile bastard about it who said to himself, "Cool story bro" who happened to be looking for material to throw in his new book titled The Holy Bible.

At 4/27/10 01:19 PM, RYNOL wrote: I'm Christian so it's all good.

Although I doubt it's Noah's Ark.

Same here.

JESUS FUCING CHRIST QUIT SAYING SHIT ABOUT CARBON DATING!!!!

C wat i did thar?

At 4/27/10 07:11 PM, BareNakedMike wrote:

At 4/27/10 07:02 PM, Chdonga wrote: YOU KNOW WHAT GUYS, LET'S NOT ARGUE ABOUT RELIGION IN THIS THREAD, LET'S DISCUSS HOW THEY DISCOVERED A BOAT ON A MOUNTAIN.
Like how did it manage to get there? I mean, that is pretty cool.

They probably used slaves. Slavery is not cool, man.

Hey if slavery never happened we probably wouldnt have KFC.

Thank god for previous slavery

Yeah who knows, its an old boat. How do you know if it was Noah's Ark?

Cool!

I e-mailed the links to my parents'.

Psht. Get with the times. I found that shitages ago

At 4/27/10 02:03 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: I don't know you personally, so I can't say if it is true of you or not, but I find that a lot of people who don't want to accept or believe the truth will try to write it off as symbolism/allegory/myth/whatever in an attempt to run from it.

I actually see it as completely backwards from your outlook. I find those who depend on faith rather than reason are themselves attempting to "run from it." If we as a society determine things to just be the way they are, we stop questioning and investigating, thus halting our knowledge and expansion of a race. I'm not necessarily arguing against Christian ideals, but really the ideals behind people who "accept" the information given to them without questioning it, even if its flat out ridiculous. It's the same for atheists, so many of them out there are no better than fundamentalists for they as well stand in a stagnate position in terms of knowledge, as they fail to evaluate the very information they lean on.

At 4/27/10 07:11 PM, kman355 wrote: JESUS FUCING CHRIST QUIT SAYING SHIT ABOUT CARBON DATING!!!!

C wat i did thar?

Why do you want us to stop bringing up carbon dating? It is a valid scientific technique.

At 4/27/10 01:14 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: Therefore, to all of you nonChristians out there, GET EDUCATED!!!

This is story is all based on faith. There is lack of evidence leading to Noah's ark, even with a 4500 year old piece of wood. Another reason why people don't believe in this story is because it's not humanly possible. One man cannot round up two of every single land animal on earth, estimated at 40,000 animals. And just because the bible tells us it's true, doesn't make it true. You make it sound like we have no idea what we are talking about, when clearly your whole argument is based on faith. I don't care what you believe in, but don't tell me I am uneducated because I don't believe in this stuff.

Whoahoah.