DVD Creation Woes
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At 4/19/10 10:52 PM, OneWhoListens wrote: Okay, this might sound stupid...but I'm pretty sure most dvd burning software (including encore) has a setting for choosing between making a dvd computer compatible and dvd player compatible.
It doesn't sound stupid at all. I've actually exported this thing (prior to me adding more to it and it exceeding the 4.7gb limit of normal discs) without problems before, but there could be something I'm missing (which is why I'm asking about all of this).
I think maybe tomorrow I'll just create a simple DVD with one video clip in it or something like that, and try putting it on one of these discs. If it's a problem with the disc size, that should show it up, otherwise I'm missing something with the DVD compilation itself.
Also, encore doesn't automatically region-code, does it? That could affect things, if your software is USA-based.
It defaults to all-region in Encore, I think, but that's not been an issue before. Thanks for these tips, though (and I do mean that) - I could be overlooking something really simple and sometimes the most helpful thing is for someone to proverbially yell, "LOOK BEHIND YOU."
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At 4/19/10 10:50 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote: Oh, that's one of my favorite part about these programs. When I was reformatting the subtitles of an Anime to convert from MKV to DVD format properly, it was great waiting nearly an hour each time only to find out it still wasn't compatible with regular DVD players.
Yeah, talk about kicking you when you're down.... You have to wait all that time for it to compile and then no joy. Hehe.
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get a blu-ray player aand get with the times jim :P
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Sounds like you're using a DVD+R DL, correct me if I'm wrong.
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I doubt it's ideal and it's probably something you've tried, but have you tried creating different file sizes (5GB, 6GB) and trying to narrow down where the problem starts? If you can get a close enough figure that might return better search results because it could be a known limitation, although why it would work then stop is confusing, so thinking about it I doubt it is a problem with the size.
I'm not sure what order you're trying them in, but is it possible your DVD player is somehow breaking the disc? That can't be it if you tried in Playstation or neighbors player first, but if you've been trying in yours first each time it sounds like a realistic possibility, not sure how that could happen though.
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I have also had that problem. I tried burning a film that was above 2 hours in length onto one of those dual layer discs, and it works fine on computer but not on my DVD player, and I have no idea why. My old DVD player used to play those discs fine but my new one doesn't.
It might just be that certain players are shit when it comes to dual layer discs that people have produced themselves.
What are you using to burn the discs? Possibly you might have to set the layer breaks to a specific point in order for it to work. Having said that, I had no luck doing the same.
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don't know if this is possible, but couldn't you try to compress the photos, or something alike?
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Another point; how long is the entire video? If it's less than two hours, you can fit it onto a 4.7GB disc. You just have to ask yourself if you really need the menus at the beginning. In my experience, user menus take up a fair bit of space, so I just use The Film Machine to create a menu-free image of the disc, and then IMGBurn to create the DVDs.
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At 4/20/10 03:31 AM, Shauna wrote: Ugh, stop being so English, Jim,
stop being so american shauna, or otherwise i'll reopen an old thread of mine that proves you are a man
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At 4/20/10 04:20 AM, dutchpeopleown wrote:
stop being so american shauna, or otherwise i'll reopen an old thread of mine that proves you are a man
LOL, little hard considering I've posted two pics of myself this month on here.
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I'm sorry to give you no advice but, Thats very odd.
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At 4/19/10 09:34 PM, liljim wrote:At 4/19/10 09:09 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote: Shtuff.If push comes to shove, I can put the stuff onto two separate discs, but I'd rather avoid that if I can. Burning another copy right now, I'll keep everyone posted on the progress (it takes about an hour).
I was going to suggest the same as BVBG, I also use ConvertXtoDVD and it works flawless for any DVD player. Menus are fully customizable and you can add as many videos as you want (granted they fit on the DVD).
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At 4/20/10 02:49 AM, Chronamut wrote: get a blu-ray player aand get with the times jim :P
If you'd read my posts, you'd have realised that I HAVE a blu-ray player (the PS3 will play them). That is not the point, this is to go out to family and friends and I'm not about to go out and buy a hundred of them just so that they can all watch this one DVD.
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At 4/20/10 03:30 AM, Jon4life wrote: Sounds like you're using a DVD+R DL, correct me if I'm wrong.
That's correct, are there known issues with this I'm overlooking?
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Hey, I don't have much experience with this sort of thing but I can relate some personal experience and maybe it can help, maybe it won't.
I tried for a long time to burn DVD's with movies that I had downloaded from residence for my friends. About half of them came back to me and said that the DVD's didn't work at all, and got a lot of errors like 'unreadable' and stuff like that.
Certain DVD players had more menu capabilities than others, and they were the ones that were more likely able to play the files. It wasn't related to price, as many of the cheapest DVD players could often play the DVD's while more expensive ones could not. Age never seemed to be correlated either, as my old DVD player at home (one of the first ever released!) could handle them no problem. I never found a solution, but I'd imagine that there are DVD players out there that can handle your disk no problem.
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At 4/20/10 03:38 AM, citricsquid wrote: I doubt it's ideal and it's probably something you've tried, but have you tried creating different file sizes (5GB, 6GB) and trying to narrow down where the problem starts?
I'm going to create a very simple DVD this afternoon that's just a few MB and see if the problem is with the discs themselves.
I'm not sure what order you're trying them in, but is it possible your DVD player is somehow breaking the disc?
No, I took a fresh copy (never before played) round to the neighbour's. Didn't work there, but I brought it back, but it in the 360 and it played fine.
At 4/20/10 03:39 AM, yurgenburgen wrote: It might just be that certain players are shit when it comes to dual layer discs that people have produced themselves.
I've a feeling that's what might be the case. Once again, I'm using Adobe Encore to create the discs and haven't had issues with this in the past (although, I haven't used this type of disc before, i.e. bigger than the standard 4.7Gb).
At 4/20/10 03:43 AM, Casualty wrote: don't know if this is possible, but couldn't you try to compress the photos, or something alike?
Yeah, they're already compressed. None of them are bigger than around 100Kb.
At 4/20/10 03:49 AM, yurgenburgen wrote: Another point; how long is the entire video? If it's less than two hours, you can fit it onto a 4.7GB disc. You just have to ask yourself if you really need the menus at the beginning. In my experience, user menus take up a fair bit of space, so I just use The Film Machine to create a menu-free image of the disc, and then IMGBurn to create the DVDs.
Yeah, you could be right. There are five (I think) videos, that total around 60 minutes play time. If I'm honest, I'm not really sure where all this extra filesize is coming from, it could be the menus, or it could be the transition effects I've got going on between each of the slides (cross dissolve) and accompanying audio with them.
Encore's a bit of a pain when it comes to transcoding, though. I got a big manual with the the software and that's pretty cryptic as well - like you have to jump from section to section to find what you're actually looking for.
I really do need the menus - they're integral for getting from one set of photos to another. A quick breakdown of the DVD is this:
Videos
Montage (contains all the "best bits" of the wedding)
Father of the Bride Speech
Groom speech
Best Man Speech
After Ceremony Party
Photos
There are 12 sets of these, each containing up to 99 slides and transition to audio I've included.
So the menus are kind of important, since I'd imagine most people wouldn't want to have to sit through and skip through everything until they get to the part they hadn't seen before, or wanted to show someone.
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What if u like, put it on youtube? the whole dvd i mean, in like little pieces, so then u wouldnt have to fuck around with burning shitloads of dvds? I know its a 100MB limit, but surley its easier than this dvd stuff.
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At 4/20/10 10:54 AM, Warrickneff wrote: Shtuff.
Yeah, that had crossed my mind. We'll put your theory to test a little later on when I create a menu-less DVD on one of these discs a little later. :)
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At 4/20/10 11:09 AM, SJLifeisgood wrote: What if u like, put it on youtube? the whole dvd i mean, in like little pieces, so then u wouldnt have to fuck around with burning shitloads of dvds? I know its a 100MB limit, but surley its easier than this dvd stuff.
That's not really an option - a lot of the people these discs are to go to are elderly and are only just coming to terms with using a DVD player, nevermind using computers or the internet. In other words, this needs to be as user-friendly and accessible to all as possible.
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At 4/19/10 09:43 PM, Invisable-Ranger wrote: Don't burn so fast. Your PC may support it, but some players don't. Burning too fast creates an unstable DVD. If 8x still doesn't work, try 4x. It's a pretty standard "safe" speed.
My dad always used 2x and his came out fine.
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Grrrrrrrr, brrrrrrrrrrr, blaaaaaaaaaaah.
Tried burning a disc at 2x speed, with just one video clip on it, with one menu with a simple button on it. Same outcome. I guess the issue here is with the dual layer DVD + R DL format.
Oh well, I WILL SPLIT IT IN TWO.
Thank you to all of those who offered help, I appreciate it.
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Have you tried any other software? When I use to burn Movie slideshows, I used Nero Vision. I don't know if it is DVD9 compatible or not, but I am almost certain it is. If you don't have access to any of this, make sure that your burning region is set properly to where you are in the world, if it is NTSC or if it is for PAL.
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First off, you should always burn at the medias stated slowest write speed. This issue is very common and has given plenty of people headaches in the past.
There really is no simple cure all solution to the issue as many burners only burn to a certain type of media, -R, +R, -RW, +RW, likewise many players only support one of these media formats.. The RW family is usually least compatible with all home players and best used for Data storage.
Ideally you could call all family members and ask them what model of player they have and cater to their specific needs. Your best bet would be to find someone with a burner opposite of your own and burn 5 or so copies with each type of media, one of them will probably work. :P
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At 4/20/10 12:03 PM, liljim wrote: Grrrrrrrr, brrrrrrrrrrr, blaaaaaaaaaaah.
Tried burning a disc at 2x speed, with just one video clip on it, with one menu with a simple button on it. Same outcome. I guess the issue here is with the dual layer DVD + R DL format.
Oh well, I WILL SPLIT IT IN TWO.
Thank you to all of those who offered help, I appreciate it.
Use a Memorex DVD-R. I have burned a handful of DVD's and the DVD-R has never failed on any of my DVD players. I am not sure about DVD+R though, apparently there isn't a difference.
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Is it a DVD-R or a DVD+R. Obviously you are using DL disks. I think the -R's are more compatible. It also depends on what format you burnt it in.




