truly, love is bullshit

[TheWakingDeath]

maybe this belongs on the general page. but i want intelligible comments. just intelligle not intelligent (i know i can only ask so much)

see, i have a question, and it's been gnawing at my mind, eating away at my sanity, and i have to ask you guys, WTF is wrong with society!? jesus christ cruxified! people are so fucking dependant on relationships it's appalling, APPALLING! all of my stupid little friends get caught up in this mindless swirling pool of hearthrobbing sewage; they glom onto anyone who will listen to their bullshit for more than five minutes and tell me they're in love.
assuming that i even want to hear about it is infuriating enough. but it gets far worse so i need to get this message out there and speak from the disgust and incense of my spleen. maybe someone out there will get the point

first of all, to all you mother fuckers who constantly tell your insignificant other you love them every five fucking seconds that pass, DON'T!!! just quit it, it's really annoying the shit out of everyone else, including your "loveykins" if they have any fucking sense. if you loved them, you wouldn't need to say it all the time. what? who are you trying to convince that you love this worthless sack of human waste anyway? yourself? cuz no one else cares!

and here's another hint, every time you get up to take a shit and come back don't ask "did you miss me?" you know what i say? "no, fucker, i don't miss you yet, get back on the crapper and spit out some more dingleberries. i'll call you when i get lonely." you don't need to be fucking everywhere, like a plague, all the time holding hands and trying to smoochy face.

and that's another thing, why do you always need to shop together? are you telling me you need someone else to go with you and hold your hand while the commercial industry gives you a good hard fucking up the ass? you pathetic turd! if you're always holding hands, how are you going to hold all the cheap plastic merchandise!? isn't that why you keep your babies in back packs? you stupid consumer whore you...

how about this, while we're on the subject of autonomy. try calling them by their real name once and a while (ie, not "baby" "hunny" "pumpkin" "precious" or "princess") who knows, maybe they'll be flattered that you actually know their name. most people these days don't even care what your name is as long as they can get a steady fuck.

you know what else? after seeing someone for two months you don't know SHIT about them, okay? "oh, i feel like i've known you forever, you're so right for me!" that's such utter bullshit. here's a little hint! two months does not warrant an anniversary. two months does not warrant a marraige proposal. two months is probably when you should be checking yourself for nasty STDs your main squeeze "forgot" to tell you they had
you dont know shit about that fucking person, after two months. ESPECIALLY if you've never met them in PERSON!!!

i heard a story about two lesbians who met over the internet, (one from California or some where, the other from Canada) and that they made a website about how they'd been "together" for three years and they had pictures of their cats and the temperature in their respective cities and all kinds of quaint stupid shit. and the person telling me this thought it was just great that two people who'd never met could love each other so dearly. you know what? i wanted to slap that person, and the two stupid bitches from CA and CANADA upside their stupid heads! how much more cravenly idiotic can you mother fuckers get? am i the ONLY one who sees something wrong with this picture?

And then when the prospect of them leaving you comes, you think it’s the end of the world. “oh, I’m gonna kill myself, the world is over, don’t leave me, don’t goooo!” shut up. You’ll be over it and a week and will have already moved on and found someone else just as selfish and dysfunctional as the last one. You know why? Cuz you’re dependant on relationships. You can’t stand the idea of being alone with your thoughts. It makes you uncomfortable. You need someone to define you. You need an “other half,” cuz, apparently, you’re only half a person, with half a wit and half a brain and half a heart and half and ass. You poor, dear lost soul. Why don’t you try being your own person for a change? How about finding the balance within yourself, instead of looking for it in someone else? You know what? I‘ll let you in on a little secret. They don’t have it!

[TheWakingDeath]

See, you think every relationship is gonna be different. You’re thinking “oh, this one’s special, this one’s the one. Not like the last 17; they were losers. But this is the one though, really and truly” then you realize that they’re the same as the last 17 and you get all depressed cause they don’t have what you so desperately seek. And it never occurs to you that maybe it’s your goddamned codependency that kills the relationship and drives everyone away from you.

I’m really sick of your bullshit. I’m sick of you telling me about this one and that one, and how in love you are, and all that stupid crap. Give me one thing you like about them. What’s that? You don’t know? It’s hard to explain? Is it cuz they have something intelligent to say? Is it because they’re open minded and like new things? Is it cuz they’re energetic? Or do you like that they’re mellow? Oh, I know what it is! It’s cuz they’ll go out with you’re ugly pathetic ass! Oh, that’s a real gem ya got there! Another co-dependant adult who’s too insecure with themselves to see you for what YOU are.

So you’ll say, “oh, you’re just bitter because you don’t have any one. Maybe if you weren’t so cynical and loosened up a bit you could find someone to love and you wouldn’t be like this” well, FUCK YOU. You think I want to live your endless soap opera drama of relationship after failed, unfulfilling relationship? Do you honestly think your life style is appealing or desirable in any way? I watch you imbeciles complicate your lives and then come to me, the bitchiest of bitter bitches for help, (and I notice when you need my support all of a sudden you stop criticizing me) I’ve even been in relationships with sappy codependant types like you. And you know what, I fucking hate it. and I hate you.
You people are so empty you just need to suck the life out of someone else. Leave me out of your little world.

p.s. if you ever meet some one who fits these three criteria, run the FUCK away or you’ll be sorry you didn’t.

1. wants to drive 18 wheelers
2. only eats fried chicken and ranch dressing
3. listens to country music

you have been warned!

Can I assume you're single and bitter? Well I still <3 you.

Also, love is subjective. It has a different meaning for everyone.

[The-King-of-Wolves]

STOP YELLING AT ME! I DON'T EVEN HAVE A GIRLFRIEND!

[amaterasu]

don't worry man, as soon as your friends' balls drop, it'll get better.

[lunchbxpat]

haven't gotten laid for a while, have you, izzy?

[lunchbxpat]

love is a great thing. people get into their own groove in a relationship. if you're not all about expressing your love to whomever you may be with, that's your thing. a lot of people choose to express themselves in that way. love is exciting. you want to let people know how excited you are. it's like, if you get a new shirt that you like, you wear it so that other people see that you like that shirt. if you fall in love, you want to make sure that people know it because you are so excited about it.

when a friend of mine is in love, rather than complaining about how sick it makes me, i express my happness for them. my friend is happy, despite however fleeting the relationship may be. it makes me happy that my friend is happy for this period of time. i rejoice in others' happiness, not wallow in self-pity and bitch about it over the internet. how can you be so mad at the people you love just because they have found happiness?

[poxpower]

Haha good! Gooooood! I'm glad you realise this as young as 18.

I think that the problem lies mainly in the way gilrs and boys think.

Girls wants: Relationship, understanding, helpful guys
Guys wants: Sexiest, Dumbest most dependant and tolerant girl they can possibly find to fuck her brains out as much as possible and cheat on here.

And don't even think about marriage before 25, you're insane! First off, I'd say that men under 18 are incapable of true love in just about every case and just want to screw ASAP.

glad you understand that : ) You rawk

Another thing is the social presure. You'll be laughed at if you're still a virgin at 17. Now, why the FUCK would you even NEED a boyfriend/gilrfriend at that age???? I would almost make sex illegal before 18 because of all the stupid irresponsible fuckards that can't put a cap on, or, if anything at all goes wrong ( i.e. baby) won't stick around and be the father, and will be able to run away from the law since he's a minor.
that's just sad.
This society is run by men, and you can obviously see it when our only frickin goal in life seem to look sexier to fuck everyone's brains out to feel like you've actually done something.
NEWSFLASH: even bacterias can reproduce. If you feel your life is complete by being able to fuck a person every day, then you're one sad little shit.

And I thought about marriage as well. I see that 2-people marriage is our tradition over here, but why not have multiple people married? Wouldn't that be smarter in just about every possible aspect? Like two men and a woman, or three woman or something like that. Last I heard, 3-4 people can take care of a child much easier than 2, especailly if those two spend all their time fighting each other because the guy is irresponsible and the woman has to run the frickin' house.

Anyways, you'll find that even though I am a boy, my brain is still where it should be: betweem my two ears, not my two legs.

I pity many a fool, and I like this topic very much. And from the replies you got, I think we can pretty much guess who's a horny little sack of crap and who's not.

more coming.....

[Vowl]

You need to go camping.

[poxpower]

At 3/16/04 09:53 PM, Izuamoto wrote: maybe this belongs on the general page. but i want intelligible comments. just intelligle not intelligent (i know i can only ask so much)

Yeah I wish some poeple could be given the boot forever from this forum. Some people I just can't bear to read the posts anymore and they piss me off by their sheer stupidity and immaturity. Meh.

and that's another thing, why do you always need to shop together? are you telling me you need someone else to go with you and hold your hand while the commercial industry gives you a good hard fucking up the ass? you pathetic turd! if you're always holding hands, how are you going to hold all the cheap plastic merchandise!? isn't that why you keep your babies in back packs? you stupid consumer whore you...

hahaha :)
I think some people just love to show off in public. It makes me almost die with laugher every time I see a dumbass wearing chains and his cap backwards, and who has a hard time walking because his pants are almost down, walking in the mall with his pretty little girlfriend who's dipping with makeup and who's pants are so low and tight that she can't bend or nutin' or you see her fuckin' plumber-like buttcrak.
this is the perfect "moron teen couple that will last at the very goddamn most one year".

you dont know shit about that fucking person, after two months. ESPECIALLY if you've never met them in PERSON!!!

you know, I heard a really sad thing once. This couple had been together for over 20 years, and the woman won the lottery. She didn't know much about finance, so she gave control of the funds to her husband who then proceede to stealing all of the money and running away, never to be seen again.
Heh. Sad truth his, you never know someone enough. But I'd venture that if you're smart enough, you'll know within two months if you want to keep the relationship going and possibly get together with someone. Of course marriage proposal after only 2 months is indeed vastly imbecilistic. I hate marriages anyways.

Cuz you’re dependant on relationships.

) Its true. Society makes it so people who have sense enough to stay out of relationships when they can't afford them' or who don't seem to find the right person are constanly alienated.

- What?? "Yo have been single FOR MORE THAN A YEAR?? What's wrong with you???????????????????????????????????"
-"nothing. Say, you've never been single for more than a week, what's wrong with YOU?"

And it never occurs to you that maybe it’s your goddamned codependency that kills the relationship and drives everyone away from you.

:p You know I listened to a relationship/sex help show on radio for over a year, and it seems some people always end up picking the assholes out because they are dependant on "love" and on specific caracteristics that are mostly associated with people they couldn't even stay with.
I mean, when you've had 5 boyfriend who beat you in a row, maybe you should start wondering if you should like.. become a lesbian or something, or maybe try not having a boyfriend for a while.
O.o

Oh, that’s a real gem ya got there! Another co-dependant adult who’s too insecure with themselves to see you for what YOU are.

:(
it are sad :( :(

So you’ll say, “oh, you’re just bitter because you don’t have any one. Maybe if you weren’t so cynical and loosened up a bit you could find someone to love and you wouldn’t be like this” well, FUCK YOU. You think I want to live your endless soap opera drama of relationship after failed, unfulfilling relationship? Do you honestly think your life style is appealing or desirable in any way? I watch you imbeciles complicate your lives and then come to me, the bitchiest of bitter bitches for help, (and I notice when you need my support all of a sudden you stop criticizing me) I’ve even been in relationships with sappy codependant types like you. And you know what, I fucking hate it. and I hate you.
You people are so empty you just need to suck the life out of someone else. Leave me out of your little world.

best paragraph ever.
EVER.
clap clap clap clap clap

oh no, right, we're just not able to have a "relationship". I think guys and girls are so frickin different that for them to stay together hapilly all their life is a miracle. Sure many people TOLERATE being with the other for 20, 30, 40, 50 years, bot sometimes..... it ends up really fuckin' bad.
:/

That's partly the reason I agree with same-sex couples. Two guys are usually in a relatonship for the fucking, so let them have all the fucking they want. And all the AIDS they want too. AIDS for all. have fun with that. I think women in general are more capable of organising themselves :/ Don't ask a guy to clean something up. Ever. Haha

[poxpower]

At 3/17/04 01:03 AM, lunchbxpat wrote: love is a great thing.

love, or SEX?
Would you be ready to simply "love" someone without the sex? Hmmm? Would you want your friends knowing? Now you'll say "but butbutbutbutubtubuttu sex is a part of love, its so omgomgomgogm essential". yeah. Maybe its just our North American Mentality. Maybe sex ISN'T that important at all. Even though about that?

how can you be so mad at the people you love just because they have found happiness?

because after they break up, they come crying to you for confort even though you told them "DON'T you frickin tard, this guy's an asshole! or "this girl can't stop spending and is only giving you sex so you'll buy her stuff".
Its just that I think there comes a point where you shouldn't feel responsible for the blind stupidity of others.
Anyways, it don't mean bollocks until you're at least in your twenties.

[stafffighter]

I would take izu's point more seriosely if she didnt steal part of that from a foamy cartoon

[GooieGreen]

love is for saps. Most girls (in high school) are total liers. You aren't going to find true love in high school. If you find love, good for you, have sex with her, I don't care. Just know that for "true" love to occur, both people need to be 100% secure with themselves. If they can't love themselves, how can they love another?

[TheWakingDeath]

At 3/17/04 06:51 AM, stafffighter wrote: I would take izu's point more seriosely if she didnt steal part of that from a foamy cartoon

which part did i steal? do you think illwillpress has a monopoly on rants? you think he's the only one who could come to this conclusion by himself?
actually, i stole it from life experience

[stafffighter]

It was that bit about the insignifigant other. He used that exact term in his rant

[poxpower]

At 3/17/04 01:03 PM, stafffighter wrote: It was that bit about the insignifigant other. He used that exact term in his rant

Yeah I think I rememer as well. Pfff who cares. Its not that Illwill's cartoons are stupid, its just that they are rushed and boring.

[peedee]

i say spread the love guys. lol.

[TheWakingDeath]

At 3/17/04 01:03 PM, stafffighter wrote: It was that bit about the insignifigant other. He used that exact term in his rant

i didn't realize he made the term up himself
how does that prevent you from taking me seriously?

[peedee]

why are we arguing about love? if someone loves someone, its their business....

[lapslf]

At 3/17/04 03:59 AM, -poxpower- wrote: You'll be laughed at if you're still a virgin at 17.

I'M 17 AND A VIRGIN! LAUGH AT ME!
Oh, I even have a girlfriend I acutally LOVE! LAUGH AT ME SOME MORE!

[peedee]

i will: ahahahahaha! just kiding. im 17 and a virgin as well. whats the big deal? its no ones busines!

[dantheman1998]

If you have a line of bulshit a mile long you can bring in the women all day long. I cant believe Women fall for these guys but its their own dam fualt.

Maybe if they can see the guy for what he is BEFORE they date then that would save alot of heartache wouldnt it. but i guess thier just to nieve(sp)

[lunchbxpat]

At 3/17/04 04:22 AM, -poxpower- wrote:

At 3/17/04 01:03 AM, lunchbxpat wrote: love is a great thing.

love, or SEX?
Would you be ready to simply "love" someone without the sex? Hmmm? Would you want your friends knowing?

as much as i like sex, i don't need it. i would be perfectly comfortable dating a virgin who plans on keeping it that way for a while. and i wouldn't care what other people think. and, despite your rabidly feministic views, a lot of guys feel the same way. even though we usually put up a front of tryin to get laid, and once in a while like to get a random hookup, most guys enjoy the relationship more than the sex. it's about sharing something higher than platonic love with someone. it's the passion that accompanies that. it's not just thinkin with the dick. if you say that guys only start relationships to get laid, you obviously don't know much about relationships or guys.

because after they break up, they come crying to you for confort even though you told them "DON'T you frickin tard, this guy's an asshole! or "this girl can't stop spending and is only giving you sex so you'll buy her stuff".

what do you consider your duties as a friend to be? you don't have the responsibility to comfort your friends when they're hurt? all they wanted was to feel loved, to be more special in someone's eyes than anyone else is. i still don't see the problem there. if they get hurt, you should be enough of a friend to comfort them, take 'em out and get 'em drunk, make sure they're doin okay, whatever you can. they're your friend . don't treat them like a burden just because they're tryin to find some happiness.

Anyways, it don't mean bollocks until you're at least in your twenties.

bullshit. relationships aren't strictly for the purpose of marriage. this isn't the 1950s. if you want to be in love or just get some action at a young age, you're entitled. stop raining on other people's parades.

[amaterasu]

i'm only 17 but from what i've seen so far, it's really both sides of the spectrum that are to blame. most guys want to get laid. plain and simple. they might want love too, but they expect to get laid along with it. that's okay for adults, but we are just stupid kids. sex shouldn't be in the picture yet.

most girls aren't perfect either. sometimes I sit in class and i hear girls practically announcing to the whole class what they did with their boyfriends the other night(cause they talk so damn loud). thats a sure sign of immaturity. i don't care what anybody says, the more intimate physical time that you share with your significant other should be between you and that person. period. all kiss and tell does is cause problems.

heres why i think alot of relationships barely last
-alot of couples spend way too much time holding eachother, kissing, and other stuff. if you go to school and everytime you're around your boy/girlfriend you do stuff like that, it gets old. plain and simple.
-they just can't keep shit to theirselves. alot of people for some reason feel the need to make everything public, like i said before. 'nuff said.
-the amygdala (the emotion center of the brain) is overreactive in teenagers, and paired with a frontal lobe (logic, decision making) that is still developing, it causes them to get attached very quickly. that combined with lust will cause very unhealthy deep emotional attachment at an early stage in the relationship.

theres probably a little more but i'm hungry.

here's my quick test to see if you are in love. if your partner all of a sudden became disfigured in their face and they lost their penis/vagina (i know girls can't technically "lose" their vaginas, but just imagine) would you still stay with them?

[poxpower]

At 3/17/04 02:07 PM, lunchbxpat wrote:

At 3/17/04 04:22 AM, -poxpower- wrote:

At 3/17/04 01:03 AM, lunchbxpat wrote: love is a great thing.

love, or SEX?
Would you be ready to simply "love" someone without the sex? Hmmm? Would you want your friends knowing?

most guys enjoy the relationship more than the sex

well I think that's complete bs. At least that's what I get from tv, radio, games, books.... and hookers and old guys marrying younger women and all that kind of stuff. I'd say most guys are very much interested ( for the first years) in sex.

what do you consider your duties as a friend to be? you don't have the responsibility to comfort your friends when they're hurt? all they wanted was to feel loved, to be more special in someone's eyes than anyone else is. i still don't see the problem there. if they get hurt, you should be enough of a friend to comfort them, take 'em out and get 'em drunk, make sure they're doin okay, whatever you can. they're your friend . don't treat them like a burden just because they're tryin to find some happiness.

well maybe as a friend, its your duty to say "fuck you dipshit" after they've been dumped by the 10th guy you said "he's an asshole" about. er... you know what I mean. Its nice to be nice, but sometimes, that's not the right thing to do. But yeah, its not like you have to insult them or anything :P Its just that I don't think its always has to fall on you when your friends can't get into stable relationships.
But I'm a guy though. Guys aren't sensitive :(.

bullshit. relationships aren't strictly for the purpose of marriage. this isn't the 1950s. if you want to be in love or just get some action at a young age, you're entitled. stop raining on other people's parades.

OR JUS GET SOME ACTION.......
I'm not saying they can't have a relationship, I'm just saying that its usually pretty.. erm.... short-lived when the couple is young. Meh. I just think that under abotu 20, its usually not serious.

[The-King-of-Wolves]

Maybe Pox and Izuomoto should get together.

[peedee]

At 3/17/04 10:46 PM, The_King_of_Wolves wrote: Maybe Pox and Izuomoto should get together.

i agree

[TheWakingDeath]

yeah, good idea, because i'm a complete hypocrite
you know, i never said there was anything wrong with a relationship in itself. it's just that it seems to me the average person is too immature and selfish to handle a relationship. it's not something you can ever find if you desperately seek it; you'll spend so much time with relationships that won't work that you'll miss the chance to be with people who you really do click with and you WILL get bitter.
i don't feel bitter about being single, i'm just annoyed at how my friends are so dependant on relationships that it fucks up their life. they're on this constant emotional roller coaster "Oh i'm in love, they're the best thing that's ever happened to me" to "oh, they're leaving me, i want to die!"
i believe that if i'm intended to be with someone else, then it will be, but i'm not going out their forcing myself to meet a bunch of idiots who don't even care about you as a person as long as you'll sleep with them and fill their ears with sweet nothings. that's even worse than being alone (which to be honest, i am not averse to at all, )
when you're in a relationship you need to understand that you're still who you are and they're still who they are, and you need to let them live their life. therefore, you'll most likely end up with someone who walks the same path as you. if they go their seperate way, don't try to stop them, and don't try to follow, either way, you'll both be sorry. it may hurt, but you have to let it be.. you can't let a relationship define you or you'll go insane. and i think that's something too many people do.