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"you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:38:52 Reply

Today a girl said to me that one can only succeed or fail, and that there is no such thing as "to try". I argued this point, but I was unable to get through to her. We were eventually told to shut up. I was bringing up what I thought to be valid points, and she was just being stubborn and saying "No that's wrong".

How do you feel about the matter? Is there such thing as a try or an attempt?


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:40:04 Reply

Tell her she is wrong because she's a woman. That'll shut her up.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:41:37 Reply

it is impossible to do either without trying to in the first place. what is so hard to get about that


you talk a good one but u dont do what your supposed to do

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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:42:28 Reply

At 3/11/10 04:40 PM, ratchet103 wrote: Tell her she is wrong because she's a woman. That'll shut her up.

Back to the kitchen bitch!

To OP, trying leads to success or failure so bitch has a point. To which degree you fail is the only grey spot.

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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:43:25 Reply

Tell that bitch to shut up and make you a sandwich.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:43:38 Reply

At 3/11/10 04:38 PM, Peaceblossom wrote: How do you feel about the matter? Is there such thing as a try or an attempt?

Well, no matter how hard you try, if you don't succeed, you've failed. So she's right.

Success is completing what you've set out for. Reaching your goal. If you do not reach your goal, you have failed. It doesn't matter how close you got to succeeding, or how much effort you put into it. Without that result, you've got nothing. You failed.


The point is... Don't lose your dinosaur.

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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:46:48 Reply

What if you don't want to try cause you don't give a fuck? That is not failing, that's not giving a fuck.

Sorry Joe, I don't think you're right.

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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:50:14 Reply

At 3/11/10 04:46 PM, Gian wrote: What if you don't want to try cause you don't give a fuck? That is not failing, that's not giving a fuck.

Sorry Joe, I don't think you're right.

If you didn't try, you never started. If you never started, you're not doing anything, so it doesn't count. Saying you didn't fail because you never started doesn't make any sense.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:50:26 Reply

Yoda would agree with her.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:52:53 Reply

At 3/11/10 04:46 PM, Gian wrote: What if you don't want to try cause you don't give a fuck? That is not failing, that's not giving a fuck.

Then you don't fit into the situation at all. If you don't give a fuck, you aren't setting a goal. If you haven't set a goal, you can neither succeed nor fail at it.

However, if you do set a goal, and then change your mind and decide "not to give a fuck," you have failed.


The point is... Don't lose your dinosaur.

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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 16:53:25 Reply

If you didn't try, you never started. If you never started, you're not doing anything, so it doesn't count. Saying you didn't fail because you never started doesn't make any sense.

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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 17:06:09 Reply

I think Yoda said something like that.

"Do or do not, there is no try" or something like that.

I'm no philosopher, but I think to truly try and succeed, you must not allow failiure.

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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 17:12:13 Reply

At 3/11/10 05:06 PM, blammerbadstuf wrote: "Do or do not, there is no try" or something like that.

"No, try not, do or do not... there is no try.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 17:13:01 Reply

Well, before you can even think of succeeding or failing, you have to attempt whatever you're doing. Like Confucius says, "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."

It's true that you either succeed or fail, but she's wrong when she says there is not trying. You have to try before you can do either.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-11 17:22:15 Reply

Sanch wrote:

it is impossible to do either without trying to in the first place. what is so hard to get about that

That's true.

ratchet103 wrote:

Tell her she is wrong because she's a woman. That'll shut her up.

That's also true.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-14 06:54:11 Reply

At 3/11/10 04:43 PM, Joe wrote: Success is completing what you've set out for.

So, if you've set out for something - like in this case lets say medical school - and you take 3 years of school, and fail to get accepted, is that not an attempt?


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-14 06:56:49 Reply

Hit round her stupid gob until she sees you way of thinking.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-14 06:57:06 Reply

She's a miserable bitch.

Trying is important, because with trying and losing you learn, and this can help you succeed the next time. Trying is an important lesson for life. If you try and win, then well done, if you try and lose then bad luck but you've learnt how to better yourself the next go.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-14 07:10:58 Reply

At 3/11/10 04:38 PM, Peaceblossom wrote: How do you feel about the matter?

You're either first or you're last Ricky Bobby.

But nah, first and last and winner and loser are just words and labels and shit. Just give it all you got and you can never lose as long as you're ahppy and loaded on acid.


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-14 09:14:13 Reply

Damn optimists always ruin everything.

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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-14 09:47:49 Reply

At 3/11/10 04:46 PM, Gian wrote: What if you don't want to try cause you don't give a fuck? That is not failing, that's not giving a fuck.

Sorry Joe, I don't think you're right.

Well you succeeded in not giving a fuck, but failed in what you not giving a fuck about...

You can succeed and fail at the same time!! therefore being midway between. Congrats


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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-14 11:41:39 Reply

At 3/14/10 06:57 AM, Gagsy wrote: She's a miserable bitch.

Trying is important, because with trying and losing you learn, and this can help you succeed the next time. Trying is an important lesson for life. If you try and win, then well done, if you try and lose then bad luck but you've learnt how to better yourself the next go.

but you still failed, not that that's bad, learning from your failures is a completely different thing then succeeding, or failing.

it is important to learn from failures,I agree with you there, but you need to fail to have a failure.

she was right in a sense, but remember what success is is up to you.


“You only live twice: Once when you're born, and once when you look death in the face.”

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Response to "you Can Only Succeed Or Fail..." 2010-03-14 11:44:23 Reply

At 3/11/10 05:06 PM, blammerbadstuf wrote: I think Yoda said something like that.

That's the first thing I thought of upon seeing this thread.


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