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The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 10th, 2010 @ 07:51 PM Reply

There have been many attempts already to create a wiki for Newgrounds and each has struggled with up and down popularity. All the others have now gone, but the Wikia one, started a few years ago, has kept going quietly. A month ago I posted a thread in General and attracted quite a bit of attention, the wiki is bigger and better, with many more pages and lots more info. We are building links to the specialist Newgrounds wikis, such as the Madness Combat wiki, which will make us stronger.
In this club, I am hoping that people will give us their thoughts and ideas and we can give you news of the wiki, such as the latest monthly featured subject. We intend to have one subject a month which we will focus on editing and improving. This month it is the BBS- anything you think people will want to know about the BBS. You can just write a note here if you think something needs an article and you are hoping someone will make one, but please check that one is not already there! Better still join up and write the article yourself- if it isn't great someone can improve it.

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 11th, 2010 @ 11:37 AM Reply

Hello.
I appreciate your efforts to keep the wiki alive; I'm just trying to help make it an accurate source of information.


I maek lolz. I play Steam. I fight for genital integrity.
Anything else you need?

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 11th, 2010 @ 12:56 PM Reply

The wiki is pretty cool. I wrote one article for it years ago. Don't feel like I'm really knowledgeable enough to write up stuff.

But you get my full support.


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 11th, 2010 @ 01:10 PM Reply

At 2/10/10 07:51 PM, IceDragon64 wrote: There have been many attempts already to create a wiki for Newgrounds and each has struggled with up and down popularity.

Probably because the "Wiki" is really already in Lit/Faq


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 11th, 2010 @ 02:23 PM Reply

At 2/11/10 01:10 PM, Calintz wrote:
At 2/10/10 07:51 PM, IceDragon64 wrote: There have been many attempts already to create a wiki for Newgrounds and each has struggled with up and down popularity.
Probably because the "Wiki" is really already in Lit/Faq

I think the point of the wiki was more community related things that aren't in the FAQ.


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 11th, 2010 @ 05:33 PM Reply

At 2/11/10 02:23 PM, milinko959 wrote:
At 2/11/10 01:10 PM, Calintz wrote:
At 2/10/10 07:51 PM, IceDragon64 wrote: There have been many attempts already to create a wiki for Newgrounds and each has struggled with up and down popularity.
Probably because the "Wiki" is really already in Lit/Faq
I think the point of the wiki was more community related things that aren't in the FAQ.

Then users can use the search bar, and read old topics. What sort of things are "community related" that are not posted on the forums, or main page?


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 11th, 2010 @ 07:54 PM Reply

At 2/11/10 05:33 PM, Calintz wrote:
At 2/11/10 02:23 PM, milinko959 wrote:
At 2/11/10 01:10 PM, Calintz wrote:
At 2/10/10 07:51 PM, IceDragon64 wrote: There have been many attempts already to create a wiki for Newgrounds and each has struggled with up and down popularity.
Probably because the "Wiki" is really already in Lit/Faq
I think the point of the wiki was more community related things that aren't in the FAQ.
Then users can use the search bar, and read old topics. What sort of things are "community related" that are not posted on the forums, or main page?

Maybe they may want a summary of the Sirtom Incident.

Maybe they want to know more about this "Over 9000" thing people keep talking about.

Maybe they want an unbiased look at major figures on Newgrounds.

Maybe they want to learn more about their favorite Flash Games or Movies.

http://newgrounds.wikia.com/wiki/Socom_S quad

Newgrounds is a huge website, with hundreds of thousands of submissions, dozens of crews, hundreds of important members, and a rich history. The goal of the wiki is to get that information into one place.

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 11th, 2010 @ 07:57 PM Reply

At 2/11/10 05:33 PM, Calintz wrote:
At 2/11/10 02:23 PM, milinko959 wrote:
At 2/11/10 01:10 PM, Calintz wrote:
At 2/10/10 07:51 PM, IceDragon64 wrote: There have been many attempts already to create a wiki for Newgrounds and each has struggled with up and down popularity.
Probably because the "Wiki" is really already in Lit/Faq
I think the point of the wiki was more community related things that aren't in the FAQ.
Then users can use the search bar, and read old topics. What sort of things are "community related" that are not posted on the forums, or main page?

- its a good question and I am glad to explore it with you. Perhaps there is a tendancy to write the wiki for the sake of writing it, possibly without a vision of people actually using it. It is perfectly true that a lot of the pages were written simply by scanning one source of information and writing it down there. If we decide, say, we want a page for every author that has over 30 awards and write the page only by copying the details from their user page, then its true that we haven't achieved much. I am trying to encourage the editors to find out things from a number of sources and get it all together.

We would consider that a page about a User which puts together facts from their user page, together with info from trawling the BBS and other sources, including both positive comments and criticism, would be a worthwhile page, that someone might go to to get a quick summation of a person. If you go to Wikipedia, you don't find things that are not written somewhere else, by definition- "No original research". Its a collection of facts brought together. I think Wade Fulp's page is heading in that direction, do take a look at it, its not finished yet, no wiki ever is!

You could look up something in FAQ and get part of your answer; you could find the rest of your answer in the BBS- or maybe you might get it all in one stop on Wikigrounds. Thats my hope anyway.

You definately have a point, though, the wiki will not be established until people expect to be able to go to it and find answers. Please tell us what kind of things you feel people might expect to find there- what are the things we could do that would NOT just be FAQ?


We are the Dragons & Spirits. We are friendly people. Best Wishes, Ice!

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 11th, 2010 @ 08:05 PM Reply

At 2/11/10 12:56 PM, milinko959 wrote: The wiki is pretty cool. I wrote one article for it years ago. Don't feel like I'm really knowledgeable enough to write up stuff.

-- Milinko, how "knowledgeable do you think you have to be? You don't get to level 38 without something sticking in your brain from all the NG you have seen, surely? How much do you think I know? Jsut explore what we already have- Click "Random Page" if you like- when you read the pages, thoughts will come to you. "Wait a minute- they should say..." If you don't want to write it, just put your thoughts into the talk page- thats what I do sometimes. Never mind what you DON't know, tell us what you DO know. If you look in the talk pages you will find questions we don't know how to answer. We need guys like you!


But you get my full support.

Thats good anyway. If nothing else, just tell us what kind of things you think should be there. Thanks


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 12th, 2010 @ 01:32 AM Reply

At 2/11/10 08:05 PM, IceDragon64 wrote: Click "Random Page" if you like- when you read the pages, thoughts will come to you.

Actually, this isn't a bad idea at all. I will try to do this occasionally. I just don't want to be wrong about anything and have bad info is all.


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 12th, 2010 @ 09:33 PM Reply

This is a great idea! I will write articles whenever I can. I know most of everything by now cause I lurk 24/7.

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 12th, 2010 @ 11:31 PM Reply

At 2/12/10 09:33 PM, ViZi wrote: This is a great idea! I will write articles whenever I can. I know most of everything by now cause I lurk 24/7.

Excellent! We've made a lot of progress over the past couple of months, but its always great to have new people on board!

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 13th, 2010 @ 10:27 PM Reply

At 2/12/10 01:32 AM, milinko959 wrote:
At 2/11/10 08:05 PM, IceDragon64 wrote: Click "Random Page" if you like- when you read the pages, thoughts will come to you.
Actually, this isn't a bad idea at all. I will try to do this occasionally. I just don't want to be wrong about anything and have bad info is all.

Don't worry! If you ever get something blatantly wrong, somebody else will fix it. Just try to show where information comes from.

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 16th, 2010 @ 06:18 PM Reply

Icedragon64 is on vacation at the moment, so if you have anyquestions about Wikigrounds, just ask me. Remember, its BBS month!

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 17th, 2010 @ 03:26 PM Reply

At 2/16/10 06:18 PM, Salnax wrote: Icedragon64 is on vacation at the moment, so if you have anyquestions about Wikigrounds, just ask me. Remember, its BBS month!

It would probably be a good idea to post here any articles that you think really need to be expanded or haven't been created yet to give people something to work on.


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 17th, 2010 @ 06:07 PM Reply

At 2/17/10 03:26 PM, milinko959 wrote:
At 2/16/10 06:18 PM, Salnax wrote: Icedragon64 is on vacation at the moment, so if you have anyquestions about Wikigrounds, just ask me. Remember, its BBS month!
It would probably be a good idea to post here any articles that you think really need to be expanded or haven't been created yet to give people something to work on.

Good idea. Here aare a few BBS-related articles we need.

Truthing
"I made you look gay"
You should've grabbed his cock

This is the main BBS article.
And this is an epic collection of BBS slang.

If that is not enough, here is a collection of short articles that require expansion.

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 23rd, 2010 @ 11:58 PM Reply

Wikigrounds so far this year
25 new editors!
83 more articles!
166 new images!
26,000 more words!
And our first themed month!
Not to mention the alliance we made with the Madness Wiki.

Yay!

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 25th, 2010 @ 01:37 PM Reply

Question...

There is a page about a user, I want to know; how would I change the real name date of birth etc.

There is a bit of unfinished pages that I would like to help update.

Thanks!

Nice idea of a wiki btw...

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 25th, 2010 @ 02:08 PM Reply

At 2/12/10 01:32 AM, milinko959 wrote:
At 2/11/10 08:05 PM, IceDragon64 wrote: Click "Random Page" if you like- when you read the pages, thoughts will come to you.
Actually, this isn't a bad idea at all. I will try to do this occasionally. I just don't want to be wrong about anything and have bad info is all.

I totally agree with milinko, Its a great Idea. To be honest I assumed Newgrounds was all ready Wikkied. Been around a long time and seen lots of shit...but so much of my time here was spent drugged,drunk, or depraved of sleep usually do to the two latter reasons. but yea i wil totally check out our wiki


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 26th, 2010 @ 08:35 PM Reply


I totally agree with milinko, Its a great Idea. To be honest I assumed Newgrounds was all ready Wikkied.

-- It had, previous wiki's had failed and this one was left for dead in 2007, but one good man (InclusiveDisjunction) answered his user page when I asked if there was anyone left and we now have a vibrant little community growing. Please do join us. Come and help this months theme- the BBS
Thanks


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Feb. 26th, 2010 @ 10:00 PM Reply

At 2/26/10 08:35 PM, IceDragon64 wrote: Please do join us. Come and help this months theme- the BBS
Thanks

I updated the list of forums today since not all of them were listed.

I'm also going to start up a Newgrounds Dump page.


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Mar. 1st, 2010 @ 03:42 PM Reply

This month's contest is over, and we have a winner! Congratulations milinko959! Milinko first signed up in 2007, but disappeared from Wikigrounds until just two weeks ago. Since then, he's updated the main BBS page, nearly tripled the length of the Review Request Club page, and created a page for the new feature on Newgrounds, the Dumping Grounds! Milinko will be featured on the front page for the next month. Well Done!

Our next month's contest is Flash Games! Games are an important part of what makes Newgrounds great, but so far, we only have a few articles about games. It's time to change that! Just make an article about a significant Flash Game, or improve an already existing one.

Articles about games should have at least one of the following achievements:
500,000 views
Weekly Users' Choice Award
Review Crew Pick
Featured in Flash Portal History
Winner of an official day.
Tank Award Nomination

If a game does not fit any of these criteria but you still feel it is notable enough, please contact me.

Here are a few suggested articles you might want to make:
Portal Defenders
Time Fcuk
Madness Regent
Hentai ~ SimGirls (beta)

Congratulations again to Milinko959 and happy editing!

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Mar. 1st, 2010 @ 06:25 PM Reply

At 3/1/10 03:42 PM, Salnax wrote: This month's contest is over, and we have a winner! Congratulations milinko959! Milinko first signed up in 2007, but disappeared from Wikigrounds until just two weeks ago. Since then, he's updated the main BBS page, nearly tripled the length of the Review Request Club page, and created a page for the new feature on Newgrounds, the Dumping Grounds! Milinko will be featured on the front page for the next month. Well Done!

Oh cool idea to have a user of the month. It's a nice little piece of encouragement for those putting time into this website. Thanks, guys!

Our next month's contest is Flash Games! Games are an important part of what makes Newgrounds great, but so far, we only have a few articles about games. It's time to change that! Just make an article about a significant Flash Game, or improve an already existing one.

Should these articles contain any sort of walkthrough or guides?


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Mar. 1st, 2010 @ 06:35 PM Reply

At 3/1/10 06:25 PM, milinko959 wrote: Thanks, guys!

Your welcome!


Our next month's contest is Flash Games! Games are an important part of what makes Newgrounds great, but so far, we only have a few articles about games. It's time to change that! Just make an article about a significant Flash Game, or improve an already existing one.
Should these articles contain any sort of walkthrough or guides?

Its best to just start by providing basic info about the game. Just explain what the game is, what the objectives are, its critical reception, and the influence it had on Newgrounds. Afterwards, we can add pictures and the template we've begun using for games. Walkthroughs and guides would be nice, but basic info is our first priority.

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Mar. 1st, 2010 @ 07:58 PM Reply

Just make an article about a significant Flash Game, or improve an already existing one.


Should these articles contain any sort of walkthrough or guides?

-- Although we want to increase our pages and cover the top games, if you feel more inclined to focus on one or two and make them four or five star pages, that is just as valuable. I suggest you explore how we have done other games and work with Salnax at creating one ideal page as an example, with whatever walkthrough and cheats you two feel appropriate. If some people knock up quick pages, then others will build on them, but we also need full pages to show people they can get real info from WikiG.
Well done on the first month. You will have a challenge beating Salnax on games, I reckon. Games I know nothing about, so I will just proof-read your work (also valuable, I might add).


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Mar. 2nd, 2010 @ 11:08 PM Reply

I just made an article about a Flash game. If you want a sample, take a look.

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Mar. 10th, 2010 @ 09:53 PM Reply

We have reached 250 articles!!!!! That is 150 more than one year ago.

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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Mar. 11th, 2010 @ 11:53 AM Reply

At 3/10/10 09:53 PM, Salnax wrote: We have reached 250 articles!!!!! That is 150 more than one year ago.

Great... good to see this project is ever growing. I haven't done anything in a while sadly. Too busy, and not enough knowledge :p


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Response to The Wikigrounds Club Mar. 11th, 2010 @ 01:28 PM Reply

I haven't done anything in a while sadly... and not enough knowledge :p

-Don't try that one again Milinko, you DO have the knowledge. You can either knock together some games pages, or work on some we have been producing. What are your favourite games? You must have a few top games in your favourites.


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