Storyboard Are Very Useful

[GKoolaid]

I have been trying to make flash cartoons for sometime now but my finished products never felt as thou the came together and it started to become very discouraging. But i started to use storyboards and its worked out alot better and im hoping to have my cartoon up soon *front page* crosses fiongers lol

but anyway main point is i made some storyboard template for you guys to use you can get them here.

Kind of hoping a lot of people were having this problem and with these template we will be getting alot of new flash talent.

[DillonBrannick]

okay

[DillonBrannick]

yeah, but you can just draw it out yourself you dont't need the template

[PeterSatera]

At 2/5/10 11:38 AM, PrinceFlea wrote: Are they usually useful when you are trying to plan out some of the actions going on in a animatioN?

You are better doing thumbnails for the actual animation process. A storyboard conveys the camera shots and movie pace etc. Thumbnails actually break down the process of animation of an action. It helps convey contrast in posing, and contrast in timing, as well help break down the staging process (staging is where you want the audiences attention to be).

Here's a quick example I did to show thumbnails for a scene. They are really important in proffessional animation and really enhance communication of an animation with an audience.

[Bubbowrap]

Using storyboards has always been sort of rough for me, since I change my mind about angles and stuff as I'm animating anyway. Working on not doing that.

[Mexifry]

At 2/5/10 01:30 PM, PeterSatera wrote: You are better doing thumbnails for the actual animation process. A storyboard conveys the camera shots and movie pace etc. Thumbnails actually break down the process of animation of an action. It helps convey contrast in posing, and contrast in timing, as well help break down the staging process (staging is where you want the audiences attention to be).

Here's a quick example I did to show thumbnails for a scene. They are really important in proffessional animation and really enhance communication of an animation with an audience.

You make a good point, but I personally feel its a matter of taste.
I like thumbnails personally, but I know people who like sstoryboarding better.

One is more visual while the other is very verbal.

[PBass]

I don't think it's an either/or thing with thumbnails and storyboards, I think it's critical to use both. Story boarding is more for a scene by scene overview so you can get proper staging done and work out how your character will be acting within the environment. Thumbnailing is good for plotting out the actual movements of the characters that will take place within each shot, and the best thumbnails come from having a good storyboard.

[DillonBrannick]

Ive never used thumbnails. Does it help a lot?

[PBass]

At 2/5/10 03:05 PM, flashero wrote: Ive never used thumbnails. Does it help a lot?

Yes it's very helpful. It's really great for working out nice poses and fluid motion and helps loosen you up. It also gives you an opportunity to thumbnail the action in a few different ways to see which one works better before you start animating it all out.

[DillonBrannick]

At 2/5/10 03:14 PM, PBass wrote: Yes it's very helpful. It's really great for working out nice poses and fluid motion and helps loosen you up. It also gives you an opportunity to thumbnail the action in a few different ways to see which one works better before you start animating it all out.

Cheers man I'll try it out, when I'm doing my next animation.

[DillonBrannick]

Should you not do some concept art first?

[GKoolaid]

At 2/8/10 11:44 AM, flashero wrote: Should you not do some concept art first?

What? OF Course you still need to do your concept art. Storyboards don't help with the drawing in the cartoon as much as how it flows. Storyboards are to help you visualize the timeline of the story happening so you can make alterations to it. And i have made cartoons but sometimes you just get stumped when your just going with the flow, alot of time this going with the flows leads to stupid scenes or just gaps in your story. Storyboards prevent all of that from showing you how the story is going down. Ya DIGG? lol

[DillonBrannick]

Yes I do Digg.

[Ammo]

If your willing to dish out money for a great piece of software which will help you if you become a professional animator is ToonBoom's Storyboard. It costs quite a bit but seems very good.

[GKoolaid]

At 2/8/10 01:46 PM, Ammo wrote: If your willing to dish out money for a great piece of software which will help you if you become a professional animator is ToonBoom's Storyboard. It costs quite a bit but seems very good.

what does it do offer templates? lol. i mean for real what would a storyboard program do?

[ShadowEagle]

for my ideas i started using storyboards, but then decided that the way im animating it isn't close to how its laid out in the storyboards, so i decided that im just going to type out a script and animate it how i see fit, with very minimal storyboards.

They still work wonders for organization though!

[Wolfos]

I usually have the image in my head, then start doing a really rough animation, and then I do inbetweens (2 times, first one could be called a rough animation, the second one is the finished product)

[GKoolaid]

the only problem i have with no visual storyboards is that i used to do it a lot too but for bad reasons. Alot of times the scene will look best from the angle your decided in your storyboards, just when u get to animating it is easier to display they story in another way... thus finishing your cartoon but not with the results your truly imagined. Storyboards help your movie come out the way you wanted it to, not the way you can do it.

[DillonBrannick]

At 2/8/10 04:47 PM, GKoolaid wrote: the only problem i have with no visual storyboards is that i used to do it a lot too but for bad reasons. Alot of times the scene will look best from the angle your decided in your storyboards, just when u get to animating it is easier to display they story in another way... thus finishing your cartoon but not with the results your truly imagined. Storyboards help your movie come out the way you wanted it to, not the way you can do it.

Yeah I think your right; you just take the easy way out. Storyboard and thumbnails are the way of the future and the present and the past too, but still the Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttuure.

[bl00db47h]

Storyboards are great. They can help you know, oh, this is an odd position (or something like that). I don't think I'll do it like that. So instead of changing things in the animation and doing tedious work, you can just erase part of the picture and redraw it.

[dirtshake]

I storyboard and thumbnail for larger movies. I do the storyboarding in a format VERY similar to the OP's template, though I do thumbnailing within flash. I sketch out the animations and camera angles on a layer, more keyframes for more complicated movements. Both techniques are VERY helpful for organization and pre-production and I recommend anyone at least try them.

Here's" an example of my thumbnailing. It's the later part of this WMP...which I hope to re-make this summer with more visual flair.

[dirtshake]

Broken Fucking Links

Sorry for double posting

[GKoolaid]

At 2/10/10 01:17 AM, dirtshake wrote: I storyboard and thumbnail for larger movies. I do the storyboarding in a format VERY similar to the OP's template, though I do thumbnailing within flash. I sketch out the animations and camera angles on a layer, more keyframes for more complicated movements. Both techniques are VERY helpful for organization and pre-production and I recommend anyone at least try them.

Here's" an example of my thumbnailing. It's the later part of this WMP...which I hope to re-make this summer with more visual flair.

i never thought about just sketching on a upper layer. that would really help the transition from paper to scene ...good thinknn dirtshake