Disney or dreamworks ?
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The two big Ds , ones a Dump but which one ?
SO NG which do you think has the best animated movies Disney or Dreamworks ?
By the way just to make sure you know im referring to disney Pixar not disney animation
I go without a second thought to disney pixar , i thought that toy story and up were creative and emotional with great voice acting and character design that dreamworks doesnt live up to
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Pixar because they really make engaging storylines ontop of amazing graphical effects. Toy Story and UP come to mind.
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Definitively Pixar, ever movie they make is better than the last one :D
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Pixar definitely. Dreamworks doesn't seem to put as much care into their movies, although the first two Shrek movies I quite enjoyed. Kung Fu Panda and Monsters vs. Aliens were alright, but nothing really special. Each Pixar movie feels like a treasure, and they've yet to disappoint.
On a side note, I'm sick of Disney and Dreamworks stealing from each other. I'm sure most of the corporate espionage is on Dreamworks' side, but I doubt Disney is completely innocent. If Dreamworks really wants to be in direct competition with Pixar, they should begin by emulating how Pixar treats their storytelling, not the theme of the movies.
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Why.
I mean. Seriously. Why even compare these two? Everyone knows who is better between Pixar and Dreamworks. They themselves know it. It just seems really redundant to ask this question, and anyone who votes for Dreamworks is just trying to spark a confrontation.
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At 1/31/10 01:10 PM, PBass wrote: Pixar definitely. Dreamworks doesn't seem to put as much care into their movies, although the first two Shrek movies I quite enjoyed. Kung Fu Panda and Monsters vs. Aliens were alright, but nothing really special. Each Pixar movie feels like a treasure, and they've yet to disappoint.
On a side note, I'm sick of Disney and Dreamworks stealing from each other. I'm sure most of the corporate espionage is on Dreamworks' side, but I doubt Disney is completely innocent. If Dreamworks really wants to be in direct competition with Pixar, they should begin by emulating how Pixar treats their storytelling, not the theme of the movies.
heh yeah
The really note worthy movies for pixar are toy story , up , monsters inc and wall e , all legendary and some very touching
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At 1/31/10 01:12 PM, Bubbowrap wrote: Why.
I mean. Seriously. Why even compare these two? Everyone knows who is better between Pixar and Dreamworks. They themselves know it. It just seems really redundant to ask this question, and anyone who votes for Dreamworks is just trying to spark a confrontation.
Well some people feel like dreamworks is more appealing and has greater communication with the younger generations because theyre not as deep
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At 1/31/10 01:12 PM, Bubbowrap wrote: Why.
I mean. Seriously. Why even compare these two? Everyone knows who is better between Pixar and Dreamworks. They themselves know it. It just seems really redundant to ask this question, and anyone who votes for Dreamworks is just trying to spark a confrontation.
It seems almost natural to compare these two. I mean honestly, they're the two biggest animation companies, and believe it or not, there are actually people out there who aren't bound by your opinions. Some people like Dreamworks better, and that's going to spark a conversation.
If you're not interested in the subject, why post in the topic? It's not like it was a mystery what was in here.
Anyways, another reason to compare these two is because of all the similar movies within months of eachother. This is probably because of the different times where Dreamworks and Disney have each hired each others' former employees. There's a Bug's Life and Antz, Finding Nemo and Shark Tale, Madagascar and The Wild (Not Pixar, but still), and even in 2D, The Road to Eldorado and The Emperor's New Groove.
Heck, these two guys have been ripping eachother off since Deep Impact and Armageddon. It's absolutely insane and out of control.
I'm just glad that for the most part, one of them does it right.
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At 1/31/10 01:31 PM, PBass wrote:
There's a Bug's Life and Antz, Finding Nemo and Shark Tale, Madagascar and The Wild (Not Pixar, but still), and even in 2D, The Road to Eldorado and The Emperor's New Groove.
Heck, these two guys have been ripping eachother off since Deep Impact and Armageddon. It's absolutely insane and out of control.
Yeah its insane isnt it , im glad im not the only one that noticed :P
in the first scenario disney wins , second scenario tie 3rd madagascar yadda yadda
I think dreamworks is to light hearted for me but they produce very dood humor , i think the only dreamworks movie that really wins for me is kung fu panda , the animation while predictable was actually quite breakthrough and the way they handled mas was superb but on the other hand i doubt dreamworks will every meet the same kind of shader quality that was present in wall -e .
The ripping off needs to stop , its annoying when i get excited about one movie then see that the other side has made a duplicate
Antz - bugs life was definatley the worst though
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At 1/31/10 01:15 PM, HDXmike wrote:At 1/31/10 01:12 PM, Bubbowrap wrote: Why.Well some people feel like dreamworks is more appealing and has greater communication with the younger generations because theyre not as deep
I mean. Seriously. Why even compare these two? Everyone knows who is better between Pixar and Dreamworks. They themselves know it. It just seems really redundant to ask this question, and anyone who votes for Dreamworks is just trying to spark a confrontation.
So then Disney is the same because almost all of their movies now are fucking retarded shit relating the Jonas Hitlers?
Everyone knows Pixar is just better than Dreamworks, their storylines are nice, warm and deep, but they are still engaging for a little kid to watch. Dreamworks has similar if not the same communication with children, but a teenager/adult can note the difference pretty easily. Also, the fact that a movie has a warm storyline with goofy character designs it doesn't mean only kids should watch it and the only opinion that counts is children's opinions, because quite honestly, most youngsters, me included, are fucktards.
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Definitely Pixar. Pixar never fails to make amazing, inspiring movies. Dreamworks is good, but not anywhere as masterful as Disney/Pixar.
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Oh, no, you misunderstand. I fully realize that some people like Dreamworks better. At least, people who don't know what they're looking at. My fault for using a blanket term like 'everyone.'
It's just that, this being the animation forum and all, most (if not all) of us here know who is better hands down. If this were in the General forum, for example, I would've shrugged it off and moved on without saying a word.
And, I am very interested in the subject. Which is why I posted. I don't frivolously post in everything I come across unless it interests me--hence the low post count.
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At 1/31/10 02:43 PM, Bubbowrap wrote: And, I am very interested in the subject. Which is why I posted. I don't frivolously post in everything I come across unless it interests me--hence the low post count.
And the fact you only posted once for all of 04-06 and about 20 for 07-08 mhmm ? :P
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At 1/31/10 02:55 PM, HDXmike wrote:At 1/31/10 02:43 PM, Bubbowrap wrote: And, I am very interested in the subject. Which is why I posted. I don't frivolously post in everything I come across unless it interests me--hence the low post count.And the fact you only posted once for all of 04-06 and about 20 for 07-08 mhmm ? :P
Well, I mean, you joined in 09 and have like 2,000 posts, so. Like I said. I don't frivolously post in everything I come across unless it interests me.
TO BE ON TOPIC. I'm waiting for Dreamworks to make a car themed movie like Pixar's Cars. I thought that was the worst of Pixar's movies thus far, so maybe Dreamworks can beat them on that.
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At 1/31/10 02:43 PM, Bubbowrap wrote: Oh, no, you misunderstand.
My apologies, I was being a douchebag, sorry about that.
I think the way Pixar handles their movies is far superior because they give more respect for the storytelling. I say that word a lot, and until I find a proper synonym, I'm going to say it a lot more. It seems Dreamworks is only ever concerned with getting an half decent script and shoving money towards grabbing up popular voices. And even when they have a pretty good story to tell, they don't seem to put enough effort in telling it right.
The thing I love about Pixar is every scene, every shot, with a character in it, whether it be gag or serious, serves the purpose to tell us more about the character, not just to make a laugh or force the storyline further.
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When comparing Pixar to Dreamworks this picture becomes very relevant.
I'm not really a fan of either.. except for maybe Ratatouille.
I prefer all the traditional 2-D disney movies that I grew up with in the 90's. Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and the Lion King to name a few. Dreamworks doesn't really hold up in that respect.. or maybe I only appreciate these movies for their nostalgic value.
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At 1/31/10 05:57 PM, ZuluCS wrote: When comparing Pixar to Dreamworks this picture becomes very relevant.
20 minutes of laughter right there , oh my god that was funny but so true
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At 1/31/10 06:24 PM, HDXmike wrote:At 1/31/10 05:57 PM, ZuluCS wrote: When comparing Pixar to Dreamworks this picture becomes very relevant.20 minutes of laughter right there , oh my god that was funny but so true
Although I did laugh at that when I first saw it, sarcastic summary is my least favorite kind of criticism, as it really holds no grounds and can be applied to anything. Yet people do it all the time when talking about movies, music, jokes, and even beliefs. Ah well, it's the result of people mistaking sarcasm for wit.
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At 1/31/10 05:57 PM, ZuluCS wrote: When comparing Pixar to Dreamworks this picture becomes very relevant.
That's right, Dreamworks movies are just talking animals with famous voices and a sense of humor that tries to atract both adults and children, but fails, not all are bad, but I hated Bee Movie and Shark Tale. Pixar movies have more story development and better animation IMO.
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Dreamworks, I'm gonna let you finish, i'm gonna let you finish, but I think, that Pixar had the greatest 3D animated movies of AWL TIME!
Oh Kanway West you silly douche.
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I stopped appreciating Disney by itself when I learned how much of a jackass Walt was.
Pixar, on the other hand... Well Pixar is a company born and raised around fun in the workplace. Their original complex was a nonstop fire hazard of fun; and even still they're very laid back and relaxed. I'm not so much sure on how Dreamworks operates, as I've never seen a documentary on them before, but on a note solely about the productions of both I'd have to go with Pixar. Their movies just carry far more emotion and memorable characters than Dreamworks movies do. Plus they have a plethora of running gags.
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Pixar, but I'm sure my opinion doesn't affect the general consensus .
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Disney makes good stuff, Dreamworks steals the concept.
it has always been like that, Im not saying that Dreamworks movies are specifically bad (usually they are really good) but Disney is just so much better
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Pixar. This is daft tbh - Pixar's Movies are always the best of the best, quality and storywise, dreamworks are far from consistant in 3D.
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That's easy
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At 1/31/10 05:57 PM, ZuluCS wrote: When comparing Pixar to Dreamworks this picture becomes very relevant.
DAMN YOU BEAT ME TO IT!
YOU ROTTN' BOASTURD!
Just kiddin
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If you want to be technical about it, Pixar is not Disney, Just joint.
Disney does in fact have its own 3D department.
So it would be movies like Bolt Vs Monster vs aliens, or Kung Fu panda.
Sorry, I just had this wet blanket laying around.
Anyways I still go with Disney, The story telling and characters are still a lot better (love that hamster)
Although I did like monsters vs aliens, It just didn't have the story appeal, and the timing of the jokes seems off and rushed.
A real challenge to 3D would be Sony pictures vs Disney 3D, Or vs Pixar in a few years
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At 2/2/10 03:22 AM, Ani-x wrote:
A real challenge to 3D would be Sony pictures vs Disney 3D, Or vs Pixar in a few years
Actually now I think about it, I will trow the gauntlet down and say Sony Pictures vs Pixar.
And that is a tough one to me.
Sorry I am going derail this topic for a moment, Only because i don't think this needs a new thread based on the same thing.
I mean Pixar started the trend, and keeps resetting the bar, But Sony has not really made a bad 3D movie,
Pixar has...well badish
So in terms of technology, they are both pushing the bar, No one movie looks better then the other (given the time they came out) So that is a tie to me.
Story telling and characters, Hard say, Sony has some great story telling also. They also have characters that are inviting and make you care and feel also. But UP was probably one of the most moving kids films in a long time.
Comedy, I have to give that to Sony, Not only because of Cloudy with a chance of meatballs. No pixar movie has made me laugh like that.
Also not just because one movie, Sony Pictures seem to have a nice combo of comedy and pacing trough out their movies (Surfs Up, Open Season, CWCM)
Right now i would say Pixar is better, Only because they have a lot more titles under there belt, And they are pretty consistent with there movies. Sony/Image works only has a few movies to its name (but none are bad)
Given a few years, I think it will be neck and neck.
I expect Sony to really get onto the scene with the release of The Smurfs next year.
ok Back on topic
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meh, for me the real comparison is Pixar vs Studio Ghibli.
Ive always been a massive fan of Pixar, but I watched Ponyo last night and I actually thought it was better than Up. Holy shit that film looks good, and it was made using traditional animation techniques.
Pixar are amazing at twisting a story that is enjoyable for both children and adults, and all of their films have been very memorable and visually groundbreaking, but after watching a Ghibli film I always feel like im left with something "else" after it ends. They always manage to capture that imaginary dream world perfectly, that almost makes you feel nostalgic for childhood and the adventures it brought.
I dunno, maybe Im just a sucker for Japanese stuff, needless to say in my opinion Ghibli and Pixar are the 2 best animation studios in the world at the moment.
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Kung Fu Panda was the first 3D Dreamworks animation that could compare with Pixar movies. If they make more with that quality, they could compete with Pixar. Of course, right after making Kung Fu Panda, they created Monsters vs. Aliens...
Hopefully they don't screw up How to Train Your Dragon, that one has a lot of potential.





