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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 08:57:54 Reply

Trying to get back into the rhythm of night-time writing. I'll probably just focus on writing a few short stories for a little while, nothing too ambitious, and see what comes of it. I started rewriting my novel earlier this month, but I've decided to hold off until I get the whole lot planned out better. It should give me some great opportunities to try and get a few short stories published, that'll probably help with the whole novel writing thing later down the track.

Tonight I started writing a story about a woman who fails a suicide attempt, of which the resulting events lead her to make a deal with the devil. I think it's got potential.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 09:18:54 Reply

I got my start last night on my anthology piece. Its a very emotive, yet detached piece.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 09:44:08 Reply

This is what I came up when I posted

John grabbed the mouse and started slamming it down onto the table. He tediously maxed the volume for no apparent reason and glued his eyes to the screen.

'Why isn't the damn Castle Crashers downloading so slow?!!' he thought furiously, biting his tongue.

'Probably cause I'm doing it on a crappy website,' answering his own question. 'John, you should really stop talking to yourself.'

Suddenly, an error message popped up. Clicking it profusely, he wondered if he should have Safari. Just as he was gonna buy random crap at Ebay again, his Gameboy exploded.

'WHAT THE HELL????!!!!' he screamed, throwing the refuse onto the floor.

Staring at the screen, rubbing his blood-shot eyes, he wondered if should go try Omegle chat.

Uh... I*'m done

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 10:39:35 Reply

At 1/29/10 08:57 AM, WritersBlock wrote: Tonight I started writing a story about a woman who fails a suicide attempt, of which the resulting events lead her to make a deal with the devil. I think it's got potential.

Constantine meets Faust, sounds intriguing.

I am alone in devoutly wishing that people would proof-read their stuff before slapping it into a thread. While I'm all for writing as inspiration hits, I'm a big proponent of reading it over before laying it out for everyone else. It doesn't take long, and it helps overall.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 10:41:53 Reply

This is probably something that a lot of you do anyway, but because of the difficulties brought up by copying and pasting something directly from a file to a forum post (paragraphing, losing italics, etc.), I quite often make a 'real copy' and a 'Newgrounds copy', the latter of which has double-spacing and HTML tags. It's understandable that creating a 'Newgrounds copy' of pre-existing material is a bit of a chore, and even more so with longer works like IFUN brought up, but this is just a suggestion of something I've found useful before.

Additionally, I quite often don't bother with a 'real copy' at all if the thing is intended for Newgrounds, in response to something on Newgrounds, like this post. If I had the original with me now, I'd post a screenshot. You get the idea without it though. For the purposes of this forum as of right now, I'm usually going through both.

At 1/28/10 11:56 PM, fli wrote: After reading a few scripts, I can say that reading a script on Newgrounds SUCKS. The colors are just tweaking the hell out of my eyes.

It's not so much of a problem with the stories.

I can agree with this; it sort of ties in with what I've said already about stories. What's worse is that double-spacing between dialogue in these scripts wastes even more character space than usual, meaning you could have around ten minutes of script in too many posts, if that makes sense.

I'm backing up the Celtx suggestion here, as I've linked it up in my thread (linked below). What's useful about Celtx, Final Draft, and related programs are that they help with the technicalities of scriptwriting. If anyone here has thoughts of writing for television or film, then there some additional things to learn besides simply having character and dialogue, though these two components are obviously the meat of any script.

I'm thinking of making a tutorial for screenwritters and playwrights for the benefit of the playwrights and screenwriters.

That'd be awesome. If you know of any more resources that might be useful, including your own thing if you write it, perhaps you could add it to this thread I made, designed as a sort of bank for links and decent scripts worth keeping note of. There's something I plan on adding to it later - why I don't bother doing so now is addressed below in the common section I'm now calling SCARAB'S CORNER.

Or not.

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I'm at home for the weekend, and being an idiot, I don't bring the one thing I was working on more than anything else, that being a script. However, I may be able to work on a story or two that I've been throwing around. Nothing too big, just basic ideas. I have two ideas more complex in mind, but we'll see. It's nice ot log on each day and see the forum more... I'll say complete. Sorry I haven't gotten round to commenting on more stuff - will try to do so after I say hi to the family and get some reading done.

Flicking backwards and forwards through the Lovecraft collection I have, I read two more stories from it last night which I enjoyed: 'The Outsider' and 'The Picture In The House' (I think?). The former had a great concept, and although I could predict the ending (I've found I can be quite savvy when it comes to his writing now), it was stll satisfying. The latter on the other hand, was well characterised and rich with references that actually made sense.

I want to get into some of the older, nineteenth century New England literature: Hawthorne, Poe, etc. Any suggestions?

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 10:59:02 Reply

At 1/29/10 10:41 AM, Scarab wrote: I want to get into some of the older, nineteenth century New England literature: Hawthorne, Poe, etc. Any suggestions?

Ralph Waldo Emerson

and while I can't say I know for certain about specific New England origins, other 19th Century American authors that I recommend are:

Henry David Thoreau
Walt Whitman
Herman Melville
Emily Dickinson
Kate Chopin
Stephen Crane
Cotton Mather

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 11:47:53 Reply

At 1/29/10 10:39 AM, tigerkitty wrote: I am alone in devoutly wishing that people would proof-read their stuff before slapping it into a thread. While I'm all for writing as inspiration hits, I'm a big proponent of reading it over before laying it out for everyone else. It doesn't take long, and it helps overall.

It's definitely something I try to encourage, because I agree with you when you say it just helps. In the last MWC I judged, I found myself at some points attatching a comment relating to proof-reading to every other submission. It sounds so impersonal at times, but any help I can offer to writers on the topic isn't going to go further than just making them aware.

I sound snobby here - I'm aware that I'm by no means perfect, but I'm backing tigerkitty up.

At 1/29/10 10:59 AM, tigerkitty wrote: suggestions

Thank you very much, all appreciated. My biggest interests lie in American literature, so anything's good here. I know of some of the writers already, so I'll seek the ones out that I can.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 12:04:05 Reply

I really REALLY HATE whoring my works out.

BUT I want to know who can understand the true story behind the one I posted in my post, "Dead men Don't talk".

Please do not crucify me... I'm a desperate man.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 13:00:58 Reply

At 1/29/10 01:16 AM, FBIpolux wrote: Like this?
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Decent start, but I meant something that would help more with the mechanics, since I think that's going to be a big problem for novices, especially younger novices who maybe haven't had as many english classes as some of the older writers would have (purely talking about age and grade level things here, remember the youngest NGers are 13).

I also was of the opinion a thread like that should be done by admins as a sticky because otherwise it's going to have to keep getting bumped all the time because it will disappear off the first page super fast as people are posting up their work (that is something we're still working out structurally).

The other part that immediately concerns me there is the "don't censor yourself" bit. This to me is the biggest reason why I feel (and please don't take this like I'm taking a personal shot at you, I'm not) that guides like this will ultimately have to be stickied, or have a mod behind it because one thing that we are very clear about and the rest of the board needs to be clear about is the forum rules still apply here. Let me repeat: THE FORUM RULES STILL APPLY HERE. Just because it's a creative forum doesn't make it exempt. I bring this up especially in case people think it's now going to be ok to subvert the word filter, or words that are banned elsewhere will be ok as long as it "suits my story", no, nope, no way. Everything that is banned or deemed inappropriate elsewhere in the POSTED rules (the stuff that's specific to only certain forums doesn't count here obviously) is still inappropriate here. I've locked one thread already solely because it had a banned word in the title and I will absolutely do it again in the future if I have to.

So for me I think the writing help thread should probably work as more of a mechanics and what not guide that would also reinforce any sort of forum structures we're going to put in place. I'd love to keep getting people's input before we do that though (I think the other folks agree, but again this is me speaking personally and not for the rest of the gold auras), gums topic being as I said the place I think to do it. Then we can organize the thing and get an official sticky together and we will all know what's expected of us.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 13:52:08 Reply

This is driving me insane. I know, I'm moving crap in this post but I just need a tiny response, say its horrible or I need to cut off my fingers, but at least read my work and comment! I know it sucks so just prove it to me!

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 18:49:49 Reply

Hellooo. First time posting. Writing is the only hobby that I have, really, and the only thing I'm interested in doing. I discovered my liking for it in 3rd grade, and it's been my only consistent hobby for about 7 years. I've been a storyteller longer than I've been a poet, but I love both.

Also, noob question: are we allowed to post separate threads for poems and stories? I'm guessing so, but I'd just like to make sure.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 18:59:22 Reply

At 1/29/10 06:49 PM, gamerpeepinpa wrote: Hellooo. First time posting. Writing is the only hobby that I have, really, and the only thing I'm interested in doing. I discovered my liking for it in 3rd grade, and it's been my only consistent hobby for about 7 years. I've been a storyteller longer than I've been a poet, but I love both.

Now that's some heart right there, I've been daydreaming and making up stories since the fourth grade but it's mostly because people were annoying me then and going into my head and daydreaming things just made me feel a lot better.

Also, noob question: are we allowed to post separate threads for poems and stories? I'm guessing so, but I'd just like to make sure.

Yes you can, as long as it isn't simply a modified version of something you already wrote, that would go in it's original thread where you made the original copy of it. Have a great time in the writing lounge.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 19:12:37 Reply

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This place is comfortable.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 19:13:26 Reply

At 1/29/10 07:12 PM, Evark wrote:
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This place is comfortable.

Pass the pizza please. O' and the script is due by thursday.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 19:17:18 Reply

At 1/29/10 06:59 PM, SCTE3 wrote: Now that's some heart right there, I've been daydreaming and making up stories since the fourth grade but it's mostly because people were annoying me then and going into my head and daydreaming things just made me feel a lot better.

Haha, I know what you mean. I daydreamed a lot as a kid, imagining a bunch of characters in different situations. I liked to let my mind wander before I went to sleep. I think some of my trippiest story ideas come from the couple minutes before I started dreaming. I wish I had some way of recording them :P

And a lot of the stories I wrote when I was younger were kiddy stuff, really. I don't know where a lot of them are, I think they got thrown away when my family moved, but the first "serious" story I wrote was a quasi-horror story when I was 12.

Yes you can, as long as it isn't simply a modified version of something you already wrote, that would go in it's original thread where you made the original copy of it. Have a great time in the writing lounge.

Ok, thank you. I think I'll enjoy it here :)


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 20:21:39 Reply

At 1/29/10 10:41 AM, Scarab wrote: I quite often make a 'real copy' and a 'Newgrounds copy', the latter of which has double-spacing and HTML tags.

I always double space, but html tags is a good idea.

At 1/29/10 11:47 AM, Scarab wrote: I sound snobby here - I'm aware that I'm by no means perfect, but I'm backing tigerkitty up.

As am I. Now, it's understandable if someone is making mistakes because English isn't their first language or they have common misconceptions about grammar (semicolon use is the most common example I can think of. Also, whom vs who, nor vs or, etc). However, if you're consistently doing things like forgetting verbs ("so she was there me on the ride home"), confusing "it" "in" and "is" ("I put is in the microwave"), leaving the d off 'and' ("I have more than one apple an I only want one") and so forth, then you need to either take the initiative to edit or edit better. And of course, a mistake here or there is fine (as I am a frequent maker of typos), but if you have a mistake in every sentence, then there's a problem. I don't think not editing (as long as the piece is still readable) should be something that's necessarily against the rules, but it's something that I just don't like.

At 1/29/10 01:00 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Decent start, but I meant something that would help more with the mechanics, since I think that's going to be a big problem for novices, especially younger novices who maybe haven't had as many english classes as some of the older writers would have (purely talking about age and grade level things here, remember the youngest NGers are 13).

I really like this idea.

On a related note, when do you use 'whom' and when do you use 'who'? I could never remember. Also, 'who's' vs 'whose?"

I've locked one thread already solely because it had a banned word in the title and I will absolutely do it again in the future if I have to.

Is it alright if the word in question is only being talked about in the narration, such as, "She had a habit of frequently referring to me as "faggot (or maybe "...by the word 'faggot'")" as opposed to having it be a part of the dialog?


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 20:30:50 Reply

I gonna post short stories here if my thread gets disposed...


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-29 22:36:04 Reply

Well...I'm dropping my bags here and post my short stories here

If I have time

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 00:35:34 Reply

At 1/29/10 08:21 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: On a related note, when do you use 'whom' and when do you use 'who'? I could never remember. Also, 'who's' vs 'whose?"

Hmmm, to be honest I'm a bit rusty on 'whom' vs 'who' myself. As far as 'who's' vs 'whose' the first is a possesive. like "Bob, who's store makes a million dollars a week...was indicted on charges of fraud. Naughty naughty Bob!" vs...hmmm...good example, good example...I don't can't think of one at present (help people!) but 'whose' is the descriptive, non-possesive form.

Is it alright if the word in question is only being talked about in the narration, such as, "She had a habit of frequently referring to me as "faggot (or maybe "...by the word 'faggot'")" as opposed to having it be a part of the dialog?

I would prefer these words NEVER appear in ANY part of a story. Because the BBS is very clear and I don't want to create situations where it's seen as "ok" here, but bad elsewhere. I'd rather people try to avoid using these terms in this section. If a story absolutely requires it, well, much as I hate to say it but the BBS probably isn't going to be suitable for it. Rules is rules. The upcoming Lit Portal might be something you'd want to save that story for.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 00:52:19 Reply

I couldn't agree more with what Skye and InsertFunnyUserName said about double spacing or at the very least, having a new paragraph when someone is talking. It really is just to help reduce the extreme strain on everyone's eyes.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 01:07:54 Reply

I just found out about this forum today. It looks like it's going to be a really awesome place to meet fellow writers and get feedback on my work :)

My favorite things to write are: Short Stories, one-liners, poetry, haikus, song lyrics, pen-palling, journaling, dream journalling, webcomics, movie shorts, and flash fiction (also known as "short short stories").

I had one of my comics published at Zuda.com in October '08. Being published there was the first time that I ever got paid for my writing, and I'm hoping to be published there again this year (and if I'm lucky... win the contest!). I'm also working on a short movie script, which me and some of my friends will be filming this Summer. My music has taken a new twist recently, too. I went from writing singer songwriter lyrics to stoner rock lyrics. LOL! Basically, I'm trying to write songs that are fantasy based. My first stoner rock song was called The Ogre Wars, and my second one was called Tears of a Cyclops. Anyway, I'm looking forward to meeting some neat people on here and sharing my work with you guys :)

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 01:11:18 Reply

Lot's of good stories coming in. Some better than others but regardless, still good.
I like this forum. I use to only go to C&C and General. I only went to general because of how dreadfully slow posts come in on C&C. But now I have another Forum to go to and can cut out the idiot infested cess pool stupidity and go to a forum I like.

Hell, what the good of a lounge if we can't show others our work? So if you feel like it check it out:
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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 04:51:56 Reply

At 1/30/10 12:35 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:
At 1/29/10 08:21 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: On a related note, when do you use 'whom' and when do you use 'who'? I could never remember. Also, 'who's' vs 'whose?"
Hmmm, to be honest I'm a bit rusty on 'whom' vs 'who' myself. As far as 'who's' vs 'whose' the first is a possesive. like "Bob, who's store makes a million dollars a week...was indicted on charges of fraud. Naughty naughty Bob!" vs...hmmm...good example, good example...I don't can't think of one at present (help people!) but 'whose' is the descriptive, non-possesive form.

Not true! "Who's" is a contracted version of "who is" or "who has" while "whose" is the possessive form. In your example "Whose cars keys are these?" versus "Who's in the house?" If you can use the words "who is" then you should be using "who's"

The confusion comes from the fact that usually when we see an 's we automatically think possessive, but in this case it's a contraction... like it's

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Well...I'm gonna post a pretty long one this time....

'Hey Jim!' Alan yelled, waving a Rubix cube in his hand.

Jim turned around mystified. What was Alan doing here at this time?? He was only suppose to be with him to play some X-box only at 3.

Scratching his head, he asked, 'What are you doing here??'

'Just asking if you can solve the Rubix cube.'

Staring at Alan, Jim muttered something and snatched the cube. After 1 minute, he was done. Jim studied the Rubix cube. It was a typical 3x3x3 block, only with the white replaced by black. Whats more the center black square had a red circle on it. And it was blinking.

'Uh...Alan...' Jim asked worriedly as the light flashed brighter. 'Where the hell did you get this??'

'I found it in the trash!'he said proudly.

Not wanting to know why Alan was trash-surfing, Jim cautiously pressed the red circle. At first nothing happened. Then his finger glowed red hot and a chill went up his spine. The finger started vibrating an changed to olive green. Alan watched in awe as he took out some Gummy bears to chew.

Jim cursed silently as he tried to pull the Rubix cube all his finger. It wouldn't budge.

He grunted and shouted to Alan, 'Don't just stand there. Help-'

A loud wail exploded from the Rubix cube. Jim shut his eyes and bit his lip as a blinding gold light emerged from the cube. Jim wondered if this was going to be his final thought. As the light faded, Jim slowly opened his eyes and glanced at the Rubix cube. It wasn't even a Rubix cube anymore, it was a shiny silver PSP.

Jim mumbled, 'Well, that's new.....'

His finger no longer attached to the PSP, it dropped onto the floor and shattered, leaving a disgusting green ooze. Curious, Jim touched it. Suddenly, he turned into Salad Fingers. Grinning, he wrapped Alan. Screaming, Alan transformed into the Green Castle Crasher. His eyes widened with pleasure.

This was only the 1st Transformations


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 07:31:06 Reply

At 1/30/10 06:53 AM, FlashCam wrote: This was only the 1st Transformations

It sort of reads like someone who wrote down their dream in the morning after they woke up.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 07:36:50 Reply

Yo Pumpkinz, nice to see you in the writers lounge and in the writing forum. Even though it's somewhat unrelated, I really get a major kick out of how people refer to the General forum.


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At 1/30/10 07:31 AM, tigerkitty wrote: It sort of reads like someone who wrote down their dream in the morning after they woke up.

Eh, it's night here...


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 07:59:20 Reply

Hey FlashCam, it looks really cool. Really gripping and you've got a great hook as well.

After all, the hook is one of the most CRUCIAL tools in every writer's arsenal.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 09:42:59 Reply

Hmm....Yay

PART 2 OF THE TRANSFORMATIONS

Meanwhile....

Sam sucked his lollipop HARD. Jumping down quickly , he ran off. Sweat running down his fore head, he dangerously did a sharp turn into an alley. Gasping, he threw the half-sucked lollipop onto the ground, remembering what the hell happened just now.

He was peeking through Jim's window, spying for fun. There was a flash and then there was no Jim. Only a weird green guy with salad for fingers. The green thing later touched Alan and he turned into a green night. Then there was the stare. The long, cold, shiver-down-me-spine stare.

Sam shuddered, realising he had ran like hell after that. Suddenly, he spotted a ball, behind a trash bin. A dark glowing ball of....energy, Sam thought quickly. Edging to it, he thought if he would turn into those beings he saw. Grasping the ball, he screamed. His fingers felt like they were melting and cracking at the same time. The ball glowed brighter and burst.

A mass of rubble and wake stood after. Sam grunted and scratched his head. Groaning, he realised that this head felt...harder than usual. His lips had a metallic taste to it. Part of him wanted to rip stuff to shreds. He stood that silently, trembling at what he had become. He was.....

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At 1/29/10 10:41 AM, Scarab wrote: This is probably something that a lot of you do anyway, but because of the difficulties brought up by copying and pasting something directly from a file to a forum post (paragraphing, losing italics, etc.), I quite often make a 'real copy' and a 'Newgrounds copy', the latter of which has double-spacing and HTML tags. It's understandable that creating a 'Newgrounds copy' of pre-existing material is a bit of a chore, and even more so with longer works like IFUN brought up, but this is just a suggestion of something I've found useful before.

Heres a OpenOffice macro to change text to NG formatted text. Just open up the file and then run the macro command.

PM me if you have any problems with it.

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