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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-02 18:35:25 Reply

At 11/30/11 04:31 PM, Fro wrote: As an update for those of you who saw that I was writing a book. I've started a kickstarter to help fund the project. Any donations, sharing of the link, or publicity in any manner would be greatly appreciated.

Best of luck with that - I would donate, but I have no money :(

At 12/2/11 03:26 PM, StrapOnFetus wrote: I always have loved writing; and my creative writing teacher back in high school, was hot as hell. I am the purveyor of the weird and strange...

So you post a picture of Sir Anthony Hopkins? I'd have been more interested in a picture of your creative writing teacher :P


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-08 10:54:00 Reply

These two contests still need to be judged. If you would like to judge these contests please send me a PM so I can organize the process with you. I'm looking for at least two judges that feel like that can take a week on each thread to judge the stories. Only serious inquiries please.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-10 09:21:49 Reply

Hey guys,

It feels like this year in writing on Newgrounds has gone pretty slow. Maybe that's because I haven't been around much, haven't been paying a great deal of attention to it but it still feels like this place is yet to really take off. Well, for one thing, the literature portal hasn't popped up yet. I must admit, I'm not as excited about it as I used to be. But I'll still probably put some of my stuff up when it does get there, maybe even spend a bit more time on Newgrounds in general.

It's pretty disappointing to see the time taken to judge competitions just keeps getting longer and longer. I must admit, I'd forgotten about the competition I entered toward the start of the year. And the writing anthology seems to be pretty stop and start too.

I don't really know what to say, as I (along with a lot of other people here) have just been busy with other stuff. If only half the amazing, brilliant, exiting stuff going on would work its way over here.

My year can pretty much be summed up as: reading, writing, editing, workshopping, studying, working and networking. I can't remember if I've mentioned this before, but I'm occasionally writing articles for the website Bizarro Central (NSFW: I suppose I should mention that some of the stuff they post may occasionally be graphic/violent or graphic/sexual), and I've had a few short stories published on Bizarro Central, the New Flesh, and the Mustache Factor, which can be found here.

I finished my third year of creative writing at uni, and the final product of my major project was this bizarro space western ebook. Half way through next year, I'll start creative writing honours, and at the end of next year there's a good chance I'll be going to America (Portland, Oregon, specifically) to attend BizarroCon, meet up with publishers, editors and writers, and get my first book into print. At the moment I've got working drafts of a couple of novellas that I'll start refining and getting toward publication-stage next year.

At the moment, I'm occasionally doing a copy-editing job for Eraserhead Press, getting some good experience there. The first book I helped copy-edit came out last month, Trashland A Go-Go, and it's pretty wild and entertaining.

I'm also currently participating in an online workshop run by Jeremy C Shipp. It's been pretty good so far, and in January I'll be doing a workshop run by Garrett Cook.

Currently, all my time is being put into things that will help give me industry experience for once I get out of uni and start looking for a job (ideally in the writing field). I've met (well, communicated online with) some pretty awesome writers and editors over the past 12 months or so, which certainly wouldn't have happened without the internet. And to me, getting plenty of writing experience under my belt on Newgrounds was a pretty big part of that.

I'm glad to hear a few of you guys have got big projects in the works that seem to be going somewhere. :)


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-12 13:51:46 Reply

I actually am about to finish the third book in a trilogy that I have been writing for the past 2 years. The only problem have is killing the main villain. He has to die, but he is so awesome and one of the characters that I am most proud of so it kind of gut wrenching to be killing him off. I personally find two things to be hardest for me as a writer. One, to start the story just initial dialogue or setting to get the ball rolling and Two, coming to an end without the cliche happy ending. I personally hate those where the heroes all live and without any scars to show.

As for reading I've been delving into my super childish side and picked up the two new transformers books by Alex Irvine called Exodus and Exile. they really delve into the War for Cybertron and how characters like Megatron and Optimus came to be. It may seem childish ,but if you love fantasy at all pick up these book they are amazing. They have rich history, actually make sense, and there are no humans in it at all. (which I think to be a huge plus. They cause too much drama when you really just want to know more about the giant fucking robots that are fucking shit up)

As for a question I want to pose, I am currently running out of fantasy books to read. I love reading them to spawn new ideas for characters. Any suggestions?


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-13 07:13:39 Reply

At 12/12/11 01:51 PM, DimitriYakol wrote: As for a question I want to pose, I am currently running out of fantasy books to read. I love reading them to spawn new ideas for characters. Any suggestions?

Fantasy is a huge gamut of subjects within the genre, so I'll throw a few out there for your delectation:

Saga of the Exiles, by Julian May - modern futuristic people choosing to live lives six million years in the past. It's a one way ticket, though things in the past are very different to the way they thought they would be.

Dragons of Pern, by the late Anne McCaffrey - fantasy setting on a backwater planet, known as Pern, where the populace befriend dragons, with a mind link, forging very strong bonds. They fight thread - a destructive organism from deep space, that migrates from the red star, orbiting the planet strangely.

Legend, by David Gemmell - Fantastic tale of heroism about Druss, the hero from decades ago, who above all else succeeded at not dying. Now he returns for one last battle.

Wolf of the Plains, by Conn Iggulden - Ghengis Khan wasn't always the legend. His is born in the cauldron of the Mongolian plains, as he strives to unite the tribes. Based on cold historical fact, but brought to life by Iggulden's fantastic imagination, this is truly great.

Good Omens, by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman - The world is due to end next Saturday, about tea time. At least, according to the Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch. A demon, and angel, their overlords and a supporting cast of humans gives life to the funniest take on the apocalypse there will ever be. Dark, hilarious and surprisingly deep, this rollercoaster is the book I've read quite a few times and it's starting to look a little sorry for itself.

The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse, by Robert Rankin. This man is insane. There is no other word to describe a man who would set a murder mystery in Toy City (formerly toytown). Eddie Bear and his comedy sidekick, Jack are tasked with working out who is assassinating Pre Pubescent Personalities, before Toy City completely runs out of them. The trutyh is stranger than fiction... or is it?

That should give you something to go with for now.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-13 10:34:45 Reply

At 12/13/11 07:13 AM, Coop wrote: The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse, by Robert Rankin. This man is insane. There is no other word to describe a man who would set a murder mystery in Toy City (formerly toytown). Eddie Bear and his comedy sidekick, Jack are tasked with working out who is assassinating Pre Pubescent Personalities, before Toy City completely runs out of them. The trutyh is stranger than fiction... or is it?

This one sounds interesting. Over the past year, "insane" is probably the best way to summarise my reading habits.

I'm currently reading a graphic novel, The Filth, by Grant Morrison, and a novel called Cthulhu Comes to the Vampire Kingdom, by Cameron Pierce. The Filth is more sci-fi, by Vampire Kingdom is a sort of surreal fantasy. I prefer my fantasy to be on the surreal/stranger side. I never really got into the archaic dragons and elves, medieval, dungeons and dragons, lord of the rings type fantasy. I was always more interested in the Alice in Wonderland type fantasies.

Hollow Chocolate Bunnies kind of reminds me of a bizarro noir novel I read recently called Jimmy Plush: Teddy Bear Detective, by Garrett Cook.

I've also heard Jeff VanderMeer's novel Finch is a sort of fantasy noir that's supposed to be really good. I bought it not too long ago and I'm hoping to get into it some time over the holidays.

China Mieville's a bit like that too, I think. I started reading his novel Kraken a little while ago, which was really good so far, but I got caught up with reading other books and I haven't gotten around to finishing it off. It's high on my priorities though. And I really want to get around to reading his steampunk fantasy novel, Perdido Street Station.

My recommendations for good weird fantasy would be to check out the books coming out of the "Bizarro" and "New Weird" literary movements.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-15 12:48:28 Reply

So, since finals are over for me, I was thinking about reviving the weekly writing exercises. It would be a good excuse for me and others to write some short short stories as well as grow as writers and refine our skills, as well as have someone read your stories. I don't want to put the effort into it unless 3 or 4 people, hopefully more, show at least some interest of participating, which was the downfall of the last WWE (I think it needs a new name!). I would make a new thread each week, ask people to post directly into the thread, and give a thorough examination of each one and hope for some reciprocity. I'm not a writing teacher, so I will research whatever the topic is beforehand and try to share the knowledge.

Anyone interested at all? or got some good suggestions?


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-15 13:06:32 Reply

I'm almost on break, and totally interested! I did some of the early ones, and they were really fun. I don't have any ideas right now, but I'm sure I could come up with a prompt later.


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At 12/15/11 01:06 PM, Sharu wrote: I'm almost on break, and totally interested! I did some of the early ones, and they were really fun. I don't have any ideas right now, but I'm sure I could come up with a prompt later.

Nice. I am still unsure what the format will be, but I was hoping something like this:

On Monday, I post the prompt, as well as some tips, directions, limitations (probably 300-1k words, and depending on the prompt, I might as for a specific genre) and some links to where I got the ideas and where you can find help. Then, I ask that by the following Wednesday, all stories be submitted, then I will spend Thursday and Friday reading them. Then on Sunday I will wrap up and give a preview of the next day's topic, and maybe post a "best of" or "most improvement" or "biggest surprise" or even something like "best use of double entendres" (depending on the topic); things like that ought to keep things interesting and hopefully keep participants around.

Also, I was thinking of making a Monthly Writing Exercise every 4th week, which would ask the participants to create a longer story (1.5k-3k words) incorporating elements and techniques we have used and studied and I would give direction based on observations (if I noticed that someone kept using active voice for a weak character during a dialogue exercise, I would advise them to use passive voice, etc.). I guess that I would announce that one on week 3 and ask people to turn them in on Monday of week 4 so I could have the results by the next 4 week cycle, maybe ranking the entries, or maybe not, I still can't decide.

Of course this would be just for fun, and I am still having trouble finding something that would not only attract members, but also keep them around!


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-15 13:39:51 Reply

Hello, the name's Delacroix. As you can see, I joined early in 2005, but I've been to and from Newgrounds over the years. Spent some time over at deviantArt, but I've since deactivated my account there, as ultimately I felt out of place. I did enter some literature pieces, but they were rather short, as I can't seem to come up with anything of any decent length.

Still, anyway, nice to meet you all. :)


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-15 17:30:47 Reply

Well, it seemed like there was no better place to put this - kind of wanted it a little more public than the News Posts, but somewhere where I won't have to see it every day, but as some f you may be aware, today was my Uncle's funeral.

Hard to think really that someone whom you've known all of your life had such a lot going on in theirs, that you feel like you hardly knew them. Considering that he had such a sporting background, I'm more surprised to see that his son hasn't taken up much in the way of sport, with karate only becoming a recent trend in his interests.

You really never know what you're going to get, on an emotional level, as each person's life touches every other person in a different way. The church was rammed, with so many people eager to pay their last respects to a respected teacher, devoted father and passionate sportsman. A lot of his former colleagues (some of whom had taught me in the past, which provided a few awkward moments!) turned out and I was happy to see them, albeit sad due to the circumstances.

His passion for Canada is the larger legacy he left me with, as my feelings for the country and its national sport have become so great over the past decade that I only hope he was able to see how I progressed from his passion to my own. Someday, perhaps I'll get to travel back there, as since I made the trip while he was out there, the world has seemingly become a much smaller place.

He had a lot of control over his funeral, knowing that the writing was on the wall for him - not my own choice, as I'd rather be around those I love, having them remind me of the good times, while I was still with them, so at a time like a funeral, they can say what they liked - If I were there to hear, maybe I'd be happier to know that.

In the words of Yogi Berra, "I try to go to other people's funerals, otherwise they might not come to mine." In a way, it's true, but he said it in a silly way. Nobody's perfect, eh?

I hope that my cousins and my aunt are alright, though the release of the emotion will have done a lot to help them. Still, if they want to head to a secluded hill and just shout about how unjust the world is, I'll be happy to drive them there.

It's been a trying day and I just felt that I should say something...


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-15 22:35:59 Reply

At 12/15/11 05:30 PM, Coop wrote:

It's been a trying day and I just felt that I should say something...

You shouldtalk to someone about it, and I mean really talk about it. There's only so much an internet cohort can do to help, friend.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-15 23:20:00 Reply

Hey, John here. I randomly pop in here from time to time and write for RPs. I always mean to join in on monthly contests, but I always seem to come up with a great idea RIGHT after the deadline...

Anyway, I've been reading all the Stephen King I can get my hands on recently, and I was really curious about writing a more horror-like story next. I've never really done anything like this before though, so I was wondering if there was any sort of guide that effectively teaches the basics of scaring readers.

I have Stephen King's book On Writing, but that didn't actually have any tips on writing specifically for horror. The stories from his budding career were really good, but the writing guide parts seemed really basic. For example, he dedicated an entire chapter to explaining why adverbs are bad.


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At 12/15/11 10:35 PM, DeftAndEvil wrote:
At 12/15/11 05:30 PM, Coop wrote: It's been a trying day and I just felt that I should say something...
You should talk to someone about it, and I mean really talk about it. There's only so much an internet cohort can do to help, friend.

It's not that - I've had a talk to a lot of people and the emotion of the day had really drained me - so much so that I'm off out on an errand and then going back to bed for a little while. I just got the feeling that some of my thoughts should be put down where they were kept, but not bottled up, if you know what I mean.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-24 11:52:03 Reply

Wishing all of those who pursue what they love, including writing, a very Merry Christmas, a happy New Year and most importantly that 2012 brings you what you need to grow, develop and enjoy life.

Have a lovely day

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2011-12-25 09:54:07 Reply

I know I haven't been on this forum in a really long time, for various reasons, but I thought I might just say that I finished my third novel last week. I still have editing to do, and re-writing to do on all of them, but I'm still pretty happy with what's come of them.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2012-01-02 10:55:29 Reply

At 12/24/11 11:52 AM, Sarai wrote: Wishing all of those who pursue what they love, including writing, a very Merry Christmas, a happy New Year and most importantly that 2012 brings you what you need to grow, develop and enjoy life.

Thanks Sarai, Happy New Year to you as well.

At 12/25/11 09:54 AM, ZeeAk wrote: I know I haven't been on this forum in a really long time, for various reasons, but I thought I might just say that I finished my third novel last week.

Wow, that was quickly done. I guess you enjoy the slog of that sort of thing. What length are we talking here?


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2012-01-05 11:25:03 Reply

Do anyone notice that whenever a story in Fanfiction.net or Fictionpress.com gets updated, sometiems there would be a surge of hits for a day?

Not only that, in some cases a story would somehow keeps on receiving hits day after day even after adding one chapter.

My collection of short-fics in Fictionpress haven't been getting any hits lately even after being updated from time to time yet somehow my TSA story kept on receiving hits for weeks now.

Maybe the security issues with TSA are still topical to retain relevance?


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At 1/5/12 11:25 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Maybe the security issues with TSA are still topical to retain relevance?

Perhaps it's because they like that one the best?

Anyways, happy New Year, and it terms of writing, I've been contacted to help develop a video game script dealing with politics, diplomatic relations and national security in an alternate post 9/11 world. Hopefully the gameplay will come out good.


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At 1/5/12 04:51 PM, BrianEtrius wrote:
At 1/5/12 11:25 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Maybe the security issues with TSA are still topical to retain relevance?
Perhaps it's because they like that one the best?

Maybe, since I did added few more chapters and they're pretty outlandish compared to the somewhat messed up nature of the first chapter. It was going to be a one-shot but then hearing how terrorists might plan on using bomb implants after the nut-bomber got caught, I just can't pass them one up.

Anyways, happy New Year, and it terms of writing, I've been contacted to help develop a video game script dealing with politics, diplomatic relations and national security in an alternate post 9/11 world. Hopefully the gameplay will come out good.

That sounds interesting, hopefully it'll work out well.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2012-01-05 20:32:02 Reply

At 1/5/12 11:25 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Do anyone notice that whenever a story in Fanfiction.net or Fictionpress.com gets updated, sometiems there would be a surge of hits for a day?

I've always hated fanfiction. I don't really think that these events are significant and that it is just random whims and trends of fanfiction/fictionpress goers.

At 1/5/12 04:51 PM, BrianEtrius wrote:

Anyways, happy New Year, and it terms of writing, I've been contacted to help develop a video game script dealing with politics, diplomatic relations and national security in an alternate post 9/11 world. Hopefully the gameplay will come out good.

That's enough info for me to know it will be pretty sweet.


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At 1/5/12 08:32 PM, DeftAndEvil wrote:
At 1/5/12 11:25 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Do anyone notice that whenever a story in Fanfiction.net or Fictionpress.com gets updated, sometiems there would be a surge of hits for a day?
I've always hated fanfiction. I don't really think that these events are significant and that it is just random whims and trends of fanfiction/fictionpress goers.

I don't know, I think Fanfiction is a good way to start up writing. If you don't yet have the time or creativity to create believable characters of your own, at least you can use already established ones to get used to mechanics and constructing a story. I wish Fanfiction wasn't more popular to read on the internet than regular fiction, because I see Fanfiction as more of a training ground. If people receive overdue praise, they have no motivation to create stories and characters of their own.


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At 1/5/12 11:34 PM, JohnEndel959 wrote:

I've only been to Fanfiction once so I can only judge from what I've seen:

It is not a very productive or constructive environment for aspiring writers or novice writers. It seems as if new writers can't make a dent to the already established drivel. Most kids learn the basics of the narrative in school. If they never got that type of experience, Fanfiction seems like the worst place to go. If they decide they want to pursue creative writing for whatever reason, they usually have to start at square one.

Besides, creating setting and characters is the most basal component of the narrative :O


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At 1/2/12 10:55 AM, Coop wrote: Wow, that was quickly done. I guess you enjoy the slog of that sort of thing. What length are we talking here?

The slog is quite an interesting experience, but it's also the most elating feeling when it's finished.
They're all just over 50, 000 words, which is a length that I'm entirely happy with; even though it's a length that a lot of people would discredit as a novel.

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At 1/8/12 05:57 AM, FBIpolux wrote:
Oh hi dear.

My resolution this year, is to finish my first book, and have it published.

You shall all know soon enough when this happens. I'm almost done too.

I'm right with you on that resolution.
Also, howdy. I'm new; name's Raylin.
I heard this lounge was pretty chill, so here I am.
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I'm sad to say that I won't be continuing the Weekly Writing Exercises; no one participated in the last one. I realize that it was tougher than the first two and people didn't want to invest, but that's what I was moving towards and future exercises were gonna be like that. I never really felt that there was much interest and I thank those that did participate, especially more than once. In addition, the Spring semester is upon me, so I will be busy the next few weeks as I settle into my classes. Oh well...

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In happier news, I just got back from the first night of my Intro to Creative Fiction class and I can tell I'm gonna love it. The professor started talking about literary fiction and how it represents the ideal form of fiction, and how genre fiction can be great as well, but it ain't literary fiction. She talked about characters and setting and how killing off characters is too easy and that keeping them alive and focusing on the problem is harder but better. Man, it's great to see a professor reaffirm what I sorta thought about writing. I want to grow as a writer and the class mostly works around peer-review with some professor input. I hate being condescending, but some of the students--I don't know about them. I can't wait to start writing and see where this takes me.

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get it published? who did you sleep with and where can I find them.

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At 1/5/12 11:25 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Do anyone notice that whenever a story in Fanfiction.net or Fictionpress.com gets updated, sometiems there would be a surge of hits for a day?

Not only that, in some cases a story would somehow keeps on receiving hits day after day even after adding one chapter.

It's a combination of the pieces being pulled to the front under "new" work and the fact that some people reading the latest part go back and read the whole lot again.

At 1/5/12 08:32 PM, DeftAndEvil wrote: I've always hated fanfiction. I don't really think that these events are significant and that it is just random whims and trends of fanfiction/fictionpress goers.

It's a bit harsh to tarnish all of it with the same brush. Occasionally, you get a gem in there, as with most genres. I'm sure that if you looked at enough Twilight fanfiction, you'd get something that was actually good, as opposed to the trashy teen drivel that was originally written.

At 1/10/12 06:10 PM, DeftAndEvil wrote: I'm sad to say that I won't be continuing the Weekly Writing Exercises; no one participated in the last one.

Setting it up around the Xmas break is a tough ask, but we are still trying to find our feet as a forum. I should have given it a go, but with other deadlines approaching, I've had to concentrate on them, instead.


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At 1/13/12 01:17 AM, DeftAndEvil wrote: In happier news, I just got back from the first night of my Intro to Creative Fiction class and I can tell I'm gonna love it.

Ugh... I loooved my Creating Writing class. Even though we only covered poetry and flash fiction, it was a great experience. It was a good taste of what graduate creative writing workshops are going to be like.

The professor started talking about literary fiction and how it represents the ideal form of fiction, and how genre fiction can be great as well, but it ain't literary fiction.

If you're well read, I'm sure you've already noticed this trend. I agree. I feel it is because of this that genres are beginning to bleed into one another. An example would be The Timetraveler's Wife; a romance novel mixed with science fiction. Also Mistborn; a Fantasy story mixed with a heist story. Conventional/Genre fiction is becoming increasingly boring as we start to near a critical point, where readers are well enough read to recognize the cliches. By bending and blending genres, a writer is able to freely tell a story without being concerned about where it'll be categorized (a very real concern in the Publishing Industry).

She talked about characters and setting and how killing off characters is too easy and that keeping them alive and focusing on the problem is harder but better.

Well, a story is about conflict. It's the drama that keeps us intrigued. If you kill a character, you're blunting the drama. The best time to kill a character is not as a resolution to a problem, but where the death would equate a worsening of the problem. For example, if your main character has a mentor, and the mentor is carrying your character through a lot of issues, when the biggest issue comes around, that'd be the best time to kill the mentor.

Death is a dirty business though, when it comes to writing. If you build too much emotion around the character, your reader will be extremely disappointed. If you build too little, the reader won't care. In the end, it's about what's best for the story. Just never let a character death be your answer to a particularly tough plot point.

Man, it's great to see a professor reaffirm what I sorta thought about writing. I want to grow as a writer and the class mostly works around peer-review with some professor input. I hate being condescending, but some of the students--I don't know about them. I can't wait to start writing and see where this takes me.

The biggest favor you can do yourself is to be honest in your writing. In my class, my first poem was terrible because I didn't let myself be honest. My second one was noticably better, as if someone else had written it. Remember, if you can't be honest in front of an audience of peers, you'll never be honest trying to make an audience of the masses.

Peace.

Good luck, and enjoy!