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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 01:58 AM Reply

I waited around for four years for a forum like this to be released here on Newgrounds, holding onto that eternal thread as if it were my last, until finally giving up any reasonable expectation for success, and letting the bitter palimpsests of my displeasure fester and curl themselves into an exasperation which has thus bubbled forth, to counter the ridiculous nature of the developments which face us now. Expectations are no more nor less than the direction in which our lives point, compass-like; anywhere, we hope, but north to the frozen pole where particles cease to rock in their subatomic cradles. But magnetism's sway is not to be diverted, nor to be foiled, by the whimsy of men, and so it is that we are led in a black line, snaking across the snow drifts as we march northward by the pointing of that grinning mechanical charlatan, and the phony star whose light glints off its handworn bronze and knows and likes the fact that it can deceive.


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At 1/27/10 12:52 AM, MAQcreations wrote: I REALLY don't like poetry.

It's ok to not like poetry, but I think it's rather quite important to at least have an appreciation of poetry. Poems and those who write them have had a significant influence on the written world that should not be ignored.

I'll come clean and admit that I'm not much of a writer (I'm not creative enough, really), but I do enjoy editing for some odd reason. I was an editor on my first college's newspaper and get an occasional plea from a friend to proof-read papers.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 05:53 AM Reply

Would it be a good idea to have a "Request a Script"-topic?

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 06:28 AM Reply

I've been writing since a young age, since then my style has changed drastically from sci-fi to fantasy and then slowly to more compelling stuff involving how humans interact. I've written three novellas, two long stories, and I have half of a book sitting in this very laptop which were of different genres.
I've recently began working on two books though certain tasks and a lack of interest has slowed me down drastically. I don't have a set writing style but vary between my different genres.
For Horror I adopt a sentence based structure, for fantasy I adopt a 'landscape style' which identities the surroundings before characters and only addresses them in adjacent to the landscape, for my more 'human' sort of stories I adopt a prose style. I'd love to know if anyone else has tips on styles or are interested in the same level of stuff I am.


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At 1/27/10 06:28 AM, Aci6 wrote: For Horror I adopt a sentence based structure

I could definitely appreciate the focus needed for a thing like that.

for fantasy I adopt a 'landscape style' which identities the surroundings before characters and only addresses them in adjacent to the landscape,

Fantasy always seems tied to the landscape though. Its one of the things Tolkien did, and I think its just stuck with every other writer who works in the field.

Anyways, I've been playing with a more satirical form of language for a first person narrative I've been working on. The person gets very detached from his setting and starts focusing on a lot of the details that would normally be normal, but by playing them up I'm bringing their existence into question and characterizing everything. For instance, if someone's in a suit I'm emphasizing how shiny their shoes are and how crisp their shirt is and from the speakers perspective they seem very cool and collected for the situation they are in. Its kind of surreal. Unfortunately, since I'm trying to get this piece published eventually, it probably won't end up on these forums, but I'll be posting other work.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 07:09 AM Reply

I actually agree with the people a few pages back, a larger character limit for this forum and a larger picture limit on the art forum would be great.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 07:09 AM Reply

Hey! I've been looking forward to the launch portal for a long-ass time. My Dad, John William Galt, has been writing for years, but only published with one author (who screwed him over...the book is "What Price Paradise?" ...which incidentally is a stupid title; originally my Dad called it "Into Invisible Light." It's about time travel.)

Although drawing is my strength and primary focus at college right now, I write a lot in my spare time. Here on NG, that's evident from my reviews and news blogs. Before NG, it was Myspace blogs. Before then, essays and short stories.

I had stood out even in 1st grade when we were asked to write a story to present in class. While most of the students pretty much ripped from the teacher, ("One day my toys came to life and we played together, the end.") I wrote a structured, twenty page long story about the Grey family and they're living in a haunted house in danger from a tornado (using imagery, "...the wind howled and ran zig zag down the street..." My Dad's a voice actor too, so I was the only one who attempted dramatic reading. lol) Until the family ghost, who was normally a scary entity, saved the family from the tornado. From then on his spirit was cherished and loved by the family instead of feared. I had titled it, "The Grey's Ghost."

According to my Dad, this could steep me into a literary future, but I guess time will tell. I'd love to get involved with the NG Lit Community and build on what skills I have, and see if I can't help others.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 07:53 AM Reply

At 1/27/10 05:53 AM, Zendra wrote: Would it be a good idea to have a "Request a Script"-topic?

Seems like it could go somewhere but only if the person taking up the requests is sticking to what the requester is wanting in the script. If they ask for horror script, then they should write something horror related, same thing for any other genre they wish to have a script for.

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At 1/26/10 09:51 PM, VhsTapeclock wrote: Goodbye, unnoticed journal posts!

Hear hear!! The only way my news posts tend to get noticed is via PMs and linking in the EGB and other threads.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 10:34 AM Reply

So I've been bandying around a little idea in my head for a while now (Plenty of space there, ho ho!) and what would you guys think of a Journalistic thread, where people can write reports, interviews and columns that might grab some attention.

I was thinking about this, as it's a very different writing style, especially if you're trying to remain impartial (report) or want to take one side (politics, sport, etc)

What would you guys think?


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At 1/27/10 10:34 AM, Coop83 wrote: So I've been bandying around a little idea in my head for a while now (Plenty of space there, ho ho!) and what would you guys think of a Journalistic thread, where people can write reports, interviews and columns that might grab some attention.

I was thinking about this, as it's a very different writing style, especially if you're trying to remain impartial (report) or want to take one side (politics, sport, etc)

What would you guys think?

I think its a great idea. Additionally, Tom said he was hoping to see people use this forum as a base for interviewing people in the flash community. This could easily be wrapped up into that.

I also have a vaguely similar idea. If anyone frequents Flash or Programming they probably know about the [Main] threads. I was thinking we could use one ourselves, but I haven't gotten together exactly how it be formatted.

The idea would be that people could make newsposts where they talk about a specific writing style, format, writing technique, revision style, and then link that newspost in the main thread. This could also be used for writing exercises, possibly or helpful writers resources around the web that we find.


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At 1/27/10 10:34 AM, Coop83 wrote: So I've been bandying around a little idea in my head for a while now (Plenty of space there, ho ho!) and what would you guys think of a Journalistic thread, where people can write reports, interviews and columns that might grab some attention.

I was thinking about this, as it's a very different writing style, especially if you're trying to remain impartial (report) or want to take one side (politics, sport, etc)

What would you guys think?

I'd be in favor of this. It would be a good way for any potential journalists to get some much needed critique, and we all get to keep up to date with the news.
To me, Journalism isn't much of a creative style. I see it as more of a craft, or a practise, and so it would bring more diversity to the forum, and offer people the chance to explore their horizons.
The idea of writting interviews especially appeals to me. I wouldn't be so interested in conducting one myself, but interviews about certain forum members, or authors, and of course, staff and artists would certainly entertain me.

Anyway, in answer to your question: I think this is a good idea.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 11:04 AM Reply

Some good ideas coming through here. Personally, I think it'd be cool to get up a little, frequent flash fiction challenge thing, just something to do to keep your fingers fresh. Maybe a weekly competition like what the art guys do with the creature of the week, maybe a weekly write-off, 200-500 words, or something like that, maybe have a week of competition followed by a week of "judging" whereby the general writing community can vote on favourites. No prizes, of course, a just for kicks sort of thing.

Thoughts? Suggestions?


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 11:07 AM Reply

I'll post a translated page of my novel tomorrow, when I get back home.

Stay tuned!

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At 1/27/10 11:04 AM, WritersBlock wrote: Some good ideas coming through here. Personally, I think it'd be cool to get up a little, frequent flash fiction challenge thing, just something to do to keep your fingers fresh. Maybe a weekly competition like what the art guys do with the creature of the week, maybe a weekly write-off, 200-500 words, or something like that, maybe have a week of competition followed by a week of "judging" whereby the general writing community can vote on favourites. No prizes, of course, a just for kicks sort of thing.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Sounds good to me, you may need to include themes for each week though. Some people are going to have very diverse writting styles, which could make it difficult to judge, especially if everyone is writting about completely different aspects. Also it would force people to write about things other than what they are used to, so it would expand their skills, as well as be enjoyable.

Just a thought.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 12:26 PM Reply

At 1/27/10 01:29 AM, The-Great-One wrote: One of my short stories entitled "Nightmare" was actually animated into flash here on Newgrounds...
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/50 4669

I'll add to this that seeing this Flash some time ago made me more optimistic about the future of writing/Flash collabs here on NG.

At 1/27/10 05:53 AM, Zendra wrote: Would it be a good idea to have a "Request a Script"-topic?

I think it might be eventually, especially if we find ourselves with groups of scriptwriters who are up for a bit of action. It sounds a bit McDonald'sesque, but it might very well benefit both the writers and the Flash artists.

This might be something that could be trial'd at some point maybe?

At 1/27/10 06:38 AM, gumOnShoe wrote: Anyways, I've been playing with a more satirical form of language for a first person narrative I've been working on. The person gets very detached from his setting and starts focusing on a lot of the details that would normally be normal, but by playing them up I'm bringing their existence into question and characterizing everything.

That sounds very American Psycho, and that's not a bad thing. In fact, it's one of the funnier things about the book. Good luck with developing that further. As someone who's had an eye on satire for some time as a past time, as reactions to reactions predominantly, I'd be interested in reading that should you get it published.

While I'm not one to extensive link directly to Wikipedia many times at once, I tend to look back on the basic definitions they have there for Horatian vs. Juvenalian satire. I could talk for some time about satire - possibly not right now because I've just got in, but I think it's something that could be discussed on its own in the future.

At 1/27/10 10:34 AM, Coop83 wrote: So I've been bandying around a little idea in my head for a while now (Plenty of space there, ho ho!) and what would you guys think of a Journalistic thread, where people can write reports, interviews and columns that might grab some attention.

I was thinking about this, as it's a very different writing style, especially if you're trying to remain impartial (report) or want to take one side (politics, sport, etc)

What would you guys think?

I too think it's a decent idea, especially if Tom wants to have some interviewer base like gum said. I think creative non-fiction is something I'd like to build skills on - though this isn't journalism per se, it's in a similar ballpark, so they can feed into each other in a way. At the end of the day, there's still something being created in both sub-fields. Finding a line between journalism and blog-standard (I'm not really insulting bloggers, I just thought it was a humourous piece of word play) might be tricky. An antidote to that would be a familiar one: have people read what's there and let them decide.

I think that for the sake of NG, what defines a blog post would remain 'today at school...' and related stuff. Anything else, if it's creative, could be worthwhile getting some development on I think, yes.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 12:40 PM Reply

At 1/27/10 10:53 AM, gumOnShoe wrote: I think its a great idea.

Ask, and ye shall receive

Additionally, Tom said he was hoping to see people use this forum as a base for interviewing people in the flash community. This could easily be wrapped up into that.

Yeah, that's a good idea, alluded to in the OP

At 1/27/10 12:26 PM, Scarab wrote: Avatar wasn't too bad. The 3d was fantastic, and even though I'm not huge guy for 3d and other 'trendy' special effects so much, at least it fed into the message and the sci-fi elements well. I agree with what a lot of people have said about the writing and characterisation. I don't want to do an all-out review here, but let's just say...

Movie reviews! I knew that there was something I missed out on in the OP. *mutters*


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 12:43 PM Reply

I don't LOVE poetry, its just that i don't like rhyming.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 12:48 PM Reply

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1140 924

I had this idea seeing the Collab Forums was about putting people together into making collabs. I think scenarists should go advertise their talents or ideas over here :)

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 01:34 PM Reply

At 1/27/10 12:43 PM, HeroDan wrote: I don't LOVE poetry, its just that i don't like rhyming.

Poetry doesnt have to rhyme my friend, mine certainly doesnt.

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At 1/27/10 01:34 PM, megakill wrote: Poetry doesnt have to rhyme my friend, mine certainly doesnt.

Indeed. While I'm not as familiar with a large amount of poetry as I am with types of story writing, I can name three poets off the top of my head who tend(ed) not to rhyme too often. That's not to say that their poems never rhymed, but all three of these I bring up now tend to be seen as writers who liked to piss around with structure in general.

Former British poet laureate Andrew Motion. In particular from that link, 'You Helped Give A Shape' and 'Diving'. There are still rhymes or near-rhymes, but there's still some experimentation there. Some traditionalists disliked him for these sorts of reason - I remember reading a humourous article on it ages ago in some writing mag.

Allen Ginsberg: I'll link 'Howl' because it's famous and familiar to even the smallest fans of the beatnik writers... and also because I don't have my Ginsberg collection here.

Former US poet laureate Billy Collins: I studied Collins in school. His style is certainly not for everyone, but he's great with his own personal themes. I don't think he rhymes very often at all. See 'Another Reason Why I Don't Keep A Gun In The House'.

Like I've been saying, I'm planning on sharing more literature/films that I've used as starter points in the past - it might be something like this. Whatever happens, I really don't think it will be like a book club thread, but I guess this sort of thing is fine here in the lounge, right?

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what is that gust of wind called when something moves past you really fast???


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Well hey there all. I'm Blue, and writing influenced my life because i enjoy it. Nothing more, nothing less. I enjoy writing and that's why I came over here to the writing forum, to show my writing and to enjoy others, so there.


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Hi, I'm PuddinN64. I've been writing for a few years now and I really hope to become a major regular on this board. I hope to become a humorist as my job when I'm out of school.


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Seems I should pay attention to the NG news a bit more. Just saw this and I'm still not sure if I'm dreaming or not. I'll assume the latter for now and celebrate the creation of a forum for writers with due haste.

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I haven't completed anything significant in a while. I've been trying to write a decent short story for a good part of this month and I've just been fizzling out a few hundred words in. Today (technically yesterday) was quite a shit day for me and I don't really know why, but it was the first time this month I've had something to motivate me. I started writing a short story this afternoon, and, same as with the previous stories, I've stumbled through the first few hundred words, but in the early hours of the morning (about 2-3ish) the writing started to flow better, and I've decided I'm not going to sleep until the story's done. Currently standing at almost 1,700 words I think it's not too far off the end. Only query is what I do with it here.

Should I create a thread specifically for that story, should I create a general "writersblock's fiction" thread and post it and any further stories there, or should I blog it and link to it in this here lounge? Or any other options? It seems at the moment everyone's doing everything willy nilly, I'm interested to see how some of you guys think the threads here should be constructed (or woven, per se).


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... I realized afterwards I probably should've introduced myself or something. Bah!

I'm Drew, some punk who did a few interviews for the NG Mag years ago (Which were incredibly terrible, like most things I did years ago). I've never been one to make use of the NG boards, mostly because for so long I forum hopped from one place to another and also a little bit because when I outgrew the forum hopping I decided to try and avoid forums. Let's see if I can get back into it then.

I'm a fantasy fiction writer, with one story formed as a web comic, one in the works as a novel, and two others still in early development stages.

My story writing is influenced heavily by R.A. Salvatore, Jacqueline Carey, J.R.R. Tolkien, J. K. Rowling, and Philip Pullman. These writers consist of a large majority of my books.

I'm not one to write short stories, prefer more grand tales. However, you may see some of the short stories I have brewing for another concept I'm working on, and you'll definitely get snippets of the novel I'm slowly progressing on.

With that, it's a pleasure to meet'cha all!

WritersBlock, I'm trying to think of what would work best for ya. Give me a bit...

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At 1/27/10 03:14 PM, WritersBlock wrote: I haven't completed anything significant in a while. I've been trying to write a decent short story for a good part of this month and I've just been fizzling out a few hundred words in. Today (technically yesterday) was quite a shit day for me and I don't really know why, but it was the first time this month I've had something to motivate me. I started writing a short story this afternoon, and, same as with the previous stories, I've stumbled through the first few hundred words, but in the early hours of the morning (about 2-3ish) the writing started to flow better, and I've decided I'm not going to sleep until the story's done. Currently standing at almost 1,700 words I think it's not too far off the end. Only query is what I do with it here.

You sound a bit like me. I'm in the middle of writing two different stories and each of them are stagnant at the moment. Hopefully I'll get right back into them today and make some progress here and there. The thing is I'm a notoriously short writer and sometimes chapters are rather short or undescriptive enough.

Should I create a thread specifically for that story, should I create a general "writersblock's fiction" thread and post it and any further stories there, or should I blog it and link to it in this here lounge? Or any other options? It seems at the moment everyone's doing everything willy nilly, I'm interested to see how some of you guys think the threads here should be constructed (or woven, per se).

Yes please. I'd like to know if we should get our own threads, or if each story gets its own thread or whatever.

With the addition of this forum, I've gotten a new wind for writing and I told myself to get off my hiney and get back to work. And with lack of IRL work at the moment, "No Time Like The Present" as I usually say.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge Jan. 27th, 2010 @ 03:28 PM Reply

Alright, how about this then?

If you write a lot of short stories and/or poems, make a singular thread for them. If you write novel-length stories, stick to a thread per story.

In addition, we can reduce some clutter by also making a sort of central "hub" topic for folks who don't write a lot but have some poems or short stories, or for those folks who do write novels but want to be able to put their shorts up somewhere.

I hope that made sense...

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At 1/27/10 03:28 PM, Skye-McCloud wrote: Alright, how about this then?

If you write a lot of short stories and/or poems, make a singular thread for them. If you write novel-length stories, stick to a thread per story.

In addition, we can reduce some clutter by also making a sort of central "hub" topic for folks who don't write a lot but have some poems or short stories, or for those folks who do write novels but want to be able to put their shorts up somewhere.

I hope that made sense...

Myeah, I wouldn't mind having a thread for all my stuff, even my more ambitious works. Although I feel that something more practical, such as scripts may very well deserve their own thread per script, or perhaps a script specific "hub", as you use the term. I guess we're just playing things by ear at the moment, and trying not to spam this shit up too much. I hope the forum doesn't become riddled with thread after thread of half-baked ideas seeking flash endorsement.


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