Right, having given myself a few days to cool off, I've deceided to respond to all of this that is going on here. I feel that a few things need to be said:
At 6/4/10 03:48 PM, Scarab wrote:
It's kind of why I've been asking for some time to get some attention to the writing forum and how it might be operated. It's not a question of 'pleasing the trolls', it's a question of serving people and what they essentially use the place for: to showcase their writing.
It is still being used as that. You're always going to get trolls on the forum. I shouldn't have to lurk in each and every thread to check the validity of them.
And it doesn't reflect well. The forum is treated as a joke by some, as it was minutes afters its creation. It's a view, for writers, that can't be afforded in this day and age.
Each of the threads were removed and as a result, the offenders received bans. I see no problem with this. Trolls get their attention and the forum moves onward.
At 6/4/10 03:57 PM, TrevorW wrote:
Basically we need someone(s) to help out with the maintenance of the writing forum. I'm sure if they had time Gumonshoe, writersblock, and other currently instated mods would help; however they have lives and are not presenting the activity that we really need.
Not at all - if any moderator receives a PM, they will respond to it when they are online. I was online on that Friday evening and those threads that were exampled were all removed - all I needed was a PM to alert me to them, none of this bullshit, to be quite frank.
It would be a great asset to have an active writing mod, or mods, one which we would hope comes from our regulars. We would greatly appreciate it.
Active writing mod? Poor choice of words there, Trevor. I'm active, I write and I'm a mod. What is there that I cannot do in this case? aviewaskewed, Evark and ReNaeNae are the three best moderators in my stead (sorry to sound condescending), since they all frequent this forum from time to time and if you want to get others in there that aren't "specialised", feel free.
Sometimes, for these things to be dealt with, we just need to wait, rather than get all "revolutionary" on the subject.
At 6/4/10 04:01 PM, Ass-Crumb wrote:
I remember before writing was banned on the General forum that there were all kinds of good writers like Monocrom and Sarai who have just plain left the bbs, or who haven't bothered posting any material here because of how they percieve the writing forum or because of the userbase here.
I can understand that and I want to see this as an easy going forum, where writing is tolerated in all forms. The way that this goes, you've got some extremes, with the way that gumOnShoe for example wants perfect grammar in his Anthology entries. A lofty goal amongst amateurs, but still a great goal to have.
I believe that we have agreed on things like erotica and spam not being a part of this forum. Perhaps when the Lit Portal is launched, the Erotica will be allowed, but I don't think we should tolerate spam. I'm not a fan of it, but what is one personal view?
At 6/4/10 05:20 PM, Ass-Crumb wrote:
At 6/4/10 05:07 PM, TrevorW wrote:
Ass-Crumb if you want to have fun have fun. Some of us take it more seriously, it happens. The two kinds of people will always exist and if one is the majority then so be it. Case in point, some of us just have a more serious mentality -- stuck up or not.My point is that this isn't a serious bbs in the first place.
Try not to generalise (pun intended) - I prefer to take each thread as it comes, as opposed to thinking "Which forum am I in and what attitude does that mean I require?"
Go on general from time to time; it's by no means serious, and that's where most of my problems come about. The entire bbs is run by people who are not serious, and this forum should be no exception.
I wouldn't say it's not serious. Some people take it too seriously, or rather more seriously than others would expect them to. That doesn't mean that no-one takes it seriously, so they shouldn't.
All you guys are pretty egocentric and that's why I always see you writers try and take hold of all the issues here; moderation, rules, etc.
The rules have been made - standard BBS rules, with a few exceptions, such as limitations on Erotica (no-one wants to read the effects of a teenager's wet dream - Poozy)
At 6/4/10 05:57 PM, Ass-Crumb wrote:
have you even contacted a MOD about these spam threads? I'm sure that if you did they'd nip the threads in question in the bud atleast fairly quickly.
As soon as I came online to the forum, these threads were dealt with.
Jesus fuck this isn't Judge Dredd.
"I UM TH LUR! THRO DOON YR WUPUNS" Nothing could ever be a substitute for bad acting, Sly.
At 6/4/10 06:00 PM, TrevorW wrote:
I did talk to Evark, thanks, over AIM but he was bussy. Reneanea was too. I have a few mods that I chat with on AIM and they are bussy people.
But it's easy to click This Link and look for moderators online. Send them PMs to deal with it. Don't fucking whine, because that's what pisses me off and it's why I'm thinking of nominating you for Drama Queen this mid term.
At 6/4/10 06:26 PM, Ass-Crumb wrote:
5 point plan
Not sure I agree with you on point 5, because it's for serious discussion when relating to telling people how to improve their writing skills. Some of it has to be done with humour though, I will admit.
And incidentally, I PM'ed Zerok asking him to get rid of those threads you are all complaining about and wouldn't you know it? They're gone. Not 100% sure if he did it, but regardless the problem is solved.
Nah, I beat him to it, but you did the right thing.
At 6/4/10 07:29 PM, Abuelodigital17 wrote:
You should also learn no to use lame-ass generalizations, not all of us shoot PMs to mods and admins about what we consider a problem.
If there are spam threads, I'd rather have 3 PMs about the same thread than none at all. That's what you regulars can do to be good citizens, as opposed to generally saying "We need more mods - these threads were not destroyed within 10 minutes! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!"