So many generic people...

[Cyan60]

Call it conditioning, brainwashing, stupidity, or whatever, But I say that the logic, mental capacity of todays people, alongside (this is the most painful pitiful part) their philosophy and how well they almost exscape reality with a line of reasoning that throws off any possibilty of improving, if not, practically perfecting the efficiency in which we perform anything.

I probably threw off everyone, not only because I suck at grammer, and explaining things. So I will explain what I just said with an example.
Ex: A person who was less conditioned would not only be more likely to be better at the art of philosophy, but more likely to actually know what would bring satisfaction.

That last word in the example brings up my next point, you know its kinda funny, We have always discourged anything sexual related, but its until now that we start stopping immigrants.
STD's and Immigrants will kill you!!!! The police will protect you against everything else, and death... with threatening training and threatening equipment, we are trying to prevent possible civilian threats... Sooooo hypocritical, yet it seems like a complex ridde.

You cant see it but right now Im having myself a fair laugh.

[Falonefal]

Your post made my brain explode because I didn't get the message you were trying to get through.
What the FUCK were you trying to say?

[Lorkas]

Maybe, stereotypical people?

[OddlyPoetic]

I find this topic to be ignorant and poorly reasoned.
First, what makes you think everyone (or anyone) gives a shit about the Art of Philosophy? And if you knew anything about people you would know that not every is satisfied the same fucking way.

And what you said about the police and immigrants....oh god.

[Cyan60]

At 1/5/10 05:20 PM, Falonefal wrote: Your post made my brain explode because I didn't get the message you were trying to get through.
What the FUCK were you trying to say?

Short and simple, mah man:
People are too dumb, worried, and close minded to advance the one skill that could make them be so much better in every possible way wheather it seams that way or not.

[Rad]

Look at me everyone! I am a unique snowflake!

[Cyan60]

At 1/5/10 05:24 PM, OddlyPoetic wrote: And what you said about the police and immigrants....oh god.

Fun little twisted humor, huh?
All good fun, y'know

[Lorkas]

At 1/5/10 05:24 PM, OddlyPoetic wrote: I find this topic to be ignorant and poorly reasoned.
First, what makes you think everyone (or anyone) gives a shit about the Art of Philosophy? And if you knew anything about people you would know that not every is satisfied the same fucking way.

And what you said about the police and immigrants....oh god.

hey back off ashole if u wna kep ur hed wher it is cuz if ya dont leav him alone i gna kik ur as.

[Falonefal]

At 1/5/10 05:24 PM, Cyan60 wrote:

At 1/5/10 05:20 PM, Falonefal wrote: Your post made my brain explode because I didn't get the message you were trying to get through.
What the FUCK were you trying to say?

Short and simple, mah man:
People are too dumb, worried, and close minded to advance the one skill that could make them be so much better in every possible way whether it seems that way or not.

There is not ONE skill to be "better in general"
It just has to do with personality, and that is shaped by your parents, nothing you can do about it. Even after 12 years, if your parents place you in a certain group of people, you will become a crossover of your parents and their parents. Nature man.

[OddlyPoetic]

At 1/5/10 05:24 PM, Cyan60 wrote:

At 1/5/10 05:20 PM, Falonefal wrote: Your post made my brain explode because I didn't get the message you were trying to get through.
What the FUCK were you trying to say?

Short and simple, mah man:
People are too dumb, worried, and close minded to advance the one skill that could make them be so much better in every possible way wheather it seams that way or not.

Not everyone is a philosopher. it's not relevant for the lives of most people. Why don't you explain how philosophy is going to make someone happy? Philosophy could depress the fuck out of someone. Why don't you tell us your philosophy?

And stop using psych terms like conditioning. Because i don't think you know a damn thing about conditioning.

[Cyan60]

At 1/5/10 05:25 PM, TheRadicalOne wrote: Look at me everyone! I am a unique snowflake!

heheh, kinda... kinda sad to insult / joke in that way.
I'm not saying its true, but it almost seems like your a bit insecure on the whole idea.... just a vibe I'm getting.

[Cred-Injuries]

The second part of your argument about immigrants basically ruined it. But I know what you mean. We're in a society where you're pressured to be like everyone else, do what everyone else does, to follow the same trends and not look back. It's not brainwashing or intelligence that affects people to not think for themselves or have thoughts about the world going around them, it's all the pressure to follow society that fails to make people more dynamic in my opinion. Philosophy is an amazing subject - but more people don't care about it as much.

[CapnCrunchDaPimp]

You laugh at your own topic while we try to figure it out? That's kind of fucked, up man. Nutcase much?

[rumerio]

really confusing what did the immigrants have to do with it?. but anyway I think stupid people are generic people. So philosophy wouldnt really help them because they cant understand.

[DzGuy]

Hey look it's another "I'm a whiny teenager who hates humanity" thread.

You're not original. Go away.

[Rad]

At 1/5/10 05:28 PM, Cyan60 wrote:

At 1/5/10 05:25 PM, TheRadicalOne wrote: Look at me everyone! I am a unique snowflake!

heheh, kinda... kinda sad to insult / joke in that way.
I'm not saying its true, but it almost seems like your a bit insecure on the whole idea.... just a vibe I'm getting.

I absolutely love how a majority of your points hinge on being condescending and looking down on people. Man, I am certain you are going to accomplish a lot in life.

[OddlyPoetic]

And OP. The United States is a much more individualist culture. People claim the opposite here because they want to be unique. When they don't see that collective cultures are the ones that truly encourage that. People don't want to be unique at all there.

[PinballWizard976]

At 1/5/10 05:24 PM, OddlyPoetic wrote: First, what makes you think everyone (or anyone) gives a shit about the Art of Philosophy?

What makes you think everyone (or anyone) doesn't give a shit about philosophy? It's really a fascinating thing to explore; and it can change how you live your life. Say you read up on some really intelligent people from a few hundred years ago and their views on things. This could change your views on things, and help you to think differently and write poetry or paint or write music. To have views on things other than highschool drama and who's dating who can really help inspire you to express yourself in whatever way you want. And then you start to think of your views from the prior ones, and really truly become enlightened. If you look at this kind of things and go 'this is dumb', then you're only becoming more and more part of the crowd.

And if you knew anything about people you would know that not every is satisfied the same fucking way.

You're just proving my point. No, people aren't satisfied by the same things; but that's all the more reason to at least look at different things that you don't usually do. For example, i went into a creative writing class this year thinking i wouldn't like it; but now it's my second favorite class (second to painting that is). If i had looked at the course sheet, and went "oh writings gay", then i never would have found that i actually have a bit of a talent for it, and really enjoy it. You have to experiment and try new things.

[OneWhoListens]

How are you, a poster who, by your own admission, has insufficient logic and explanatory power even to provide us with a clear concept of what you are trying to make us understand, expecting to convince us to listen to your ideas about the very thing you fail to do?

[Step]

At 1/5/10 05:38 PM, OneWhoListens wrote: How are you, a poster who, by your own admission, has insufficient logic and explanatory power even to provide us with a clear concept of what you are trying to make us understand, expecting to convince us to listen to your ideas about the very thing you fail to do?

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[MrHero17]

At 1/5/10 05:34 PM, OddlyPoetic wrote: And OP. The United States is a much more individualist culture. People claim the opposite here because they want to be unique. When they don't see that collective cultures are the ones that truly encourage that. People don't want to be unique at all there.

True, trying to fit in for fear of being an outcast is more of a survival mechanism from when being kicked out of your tribe meant death, in todays worlds there's always people out there who you could relate to and there's opportunity outside of the area ones grown up in. There is much more opportunity to be unique or educated now then there has ever been before.

I get the feeling that the OP is young and school and because he's smarters then some people he goes to school with he feels like he's discovered something important that others must become aware of too.

[Cyan60]

At 1/5/10 05:27 PM, OddlyPoetic wrote:

At 1/5/10 05:24 PM, Cyan60 wrote:

At 1/5/10 05:20 PM, Falonefal wrote: Your post made my brain explode because I didn't get the message you were trying to get through.
What the FUCK were you trying to say?

Short and simple, mah man:
People are too dumb, worried, and close minded to advance the one skill that could make them be so much better in every possible way wheather it seams that way or not.

Not everyone is a philosopher. it's not relevant for the lives of most people. Why don't you explain how philosophy is going to make someone happy? Philosophy could depress the fuck out of someone. Why don't you tell us your philosophy?

And stop using psych terms like conditioning. Because i don't think you know a damn thing about conditioning.

Ah, conditioning is emotional reaction(s) driven into ones skull like the mice trying to eat electric cheese, granted fully ecscaping such a thing like conditioning might be impossible in random theory.
Ultimately emotion doesn't determine what your philosophy is, your life would probably be some sort of nightmare for many people in such a situation. Philosophy is what guides your ideas in life, You may not notice it, but in a strong amount of human minds, philosophy is just some sort of logic that makes sense to them, and they grow to love it over time.

No one is that thankful for bread these days, but everyone eats it without thought.

[Cyan60]

At 1/5/10 05:38 PM, OneWhoListens wrote: How are you, a poster who, by your own admission, has insufficient logic and explanatory power even to provide us with a clear concept of what you are trying to make us understand, expecting to convince us to listen to your ideas about the very thing you fail to do?

Neigh, its not insuficient, all the time I recall that I either did not provide a reason, or the reason was so untested because the self-obsesed people shoot it down with the most simple level of logic, not even to act as if they corrected me, but rather as a reckless display as re-asurance.
Convincing the common man is easy, because the bigger people are commonly (not just stereotype) but more stuborn because they are a little more up the social and scientific ladder..... that ladder is rusty, but noone cares....

[Sensationalism]

Psychology wouldn't work otherwise.