Haiti

[Proteas]

As most of you have heard by now, the Haitian dictator Jean-Bertrand Aristide has fled the country, in fear for his own life. I believe that he is now somewhere in South Africa, in a self-imposed exile.
There are varying reports about the circumstances in which he came to leave the country, but his own explanation is quite interesting (bizzare, really); Aristide is now claiming that U.S. agents forced him to leave Part-au-prince, the Haitian capital, in a coup. Read more...

I would like to know something... why would the U.S. willingly help a dictator like Aristede flee his country when:

Mr Powell reportedly let Mr Aristide know the US would not protect him if rebels captured the Haitian capital, the Associated Press (AP) news agency said.

It just doesn't make sense.

[IceWraith15]

I hate how once again a country is trying to pin everything on the United States, if the Haitians want Aristide out, fine, thats their affair, but when he does leave, I hate how people always try to get America involved in a bad way just to attack us.

[Jimsween]

Maybe he has something against the US? Maybe he has nuclear missiles. We don't know, we can't know. But nobody seems to care when Canada and France grant asylum to serial killers, why is granting asylum to corrupt dictators any worse?

[SteveGuzzi]

The US has actually invaded Haiti a couple of times already...and sure enough we're occupying Haiti again.

[Thanatopsis]

one small gitch in the orignal statement that he was a dictator, yes at one point in time he was but at the time of his now exile from Haiti he was a democraticly elected leader of the nation. the most vocal leader of one of the rebel groups Philipe i think thats his name not sure, has been charged or is suspected of comiting past human rights violations. it is in this situation nessasary that the US anlong with the Canadians and the French to go in and help keep some form of order in the nation untill they have the next election.

[BeFell]

I would like to know something... why would the U.S. willingly help a dictator like Aristede flee his country when:

Mr Powell reportedly let Mr Aristide know the US would not protect him if rebels captured the Haitian capital, the Associated Press (AP) news agency said.

It just doesn't make sense.

It was just better for everyone to have that guy leave. By leaving he helped his citizens avoid even more fighting and by helping the US was able to keep him from becoming a martyr for his supporters to continue fighting for.

[beaucoup-yeux]

Aristide was the first democratically elected leader of Haiti, sad how it ends like this. Of course im not at all saying Aristie was a good man, I mean Reagan was elected democratically and hes a fascist.

It just looks like slavery is still showing negtive effects today in Haiti. I can only hope Guy Phillipe is a decent man

[BeFell]

Reagan was elected democratically and hes a fascist.

Do you have a specific example?

[blueloa13]

At 3/3/04 09:32 PM, BeFell wrote: Reagan was elected democratically and hes a fascist.

Do you have a specific example?

I dont think Reagen was as much a fascist as FDR was. I mean Reagen was stupid but FDR was just an ass.

[Proteas]

At 3/3/04 09:28 PM, kada wrote: It just looks like slavery is still showing negtive effects today in Haiti.

How in the blue hell does slavery play a role in this?

I can only hope Guy Phillipe is a decent man

I don't know about decent, smart is more like it. The moment the marines showed up, he instructed his men to lay down arms.

[hitokiri-diesel]

Haiti is sooooo screwed up right now it's not even funny. When they were going to be invaded by napoleon, they made some sort of pact with the devil or something. Paganism is RAMPANT. And scary.

[L-Trippin]

woah.. i didn't know that Aristide was a dictator.

well the whole thing is screwed up somehow.

[Maragriz]

At 3/3/04 06:41 PM, IceWraith15 wrote: I hate how once again a country is trying to pin everything on the United States, if the Haitians want Aristide out, fine, thats their affair, but when he does leave, I hate how people always try to get America involved in a bad way just to attack us.

You also must have heard how Aristide is Blaming the Us for forcing him out...... And the Award for 'Stupidest Man of the Century' goes to.....Aristide! For Blaming the Us for saving his sorry ass.

[bombkangaroo]

wierd how we can't say "kill all the haitians" in a computer game, but they seem ok to actually do it.

[Proteas]

At 3/4/04 11:07 AM, hitokiri_diesel wrote: Haiti is sooooo screwed up right now it's not even funny. When they were going to be invaded by napoleon, they made some sort of pact with the devil or something. Paganism is RAMPANT. And scary.

\Pa"gan\ (p[=a]"gan), n. [L. paganus a countryman, peasant, villager, a pagan, fr. paganus of or pertaining to the country, rustic, also, pagan, fr. pagus a district, canton, the country, perh. orig., a district with fixed boundaries: cf. pangere to fasten. Cf. Painim, Peasant, and Pact, also Heathen.] One who worships false gods; an idolater; a heathen; one who is neither a Christian, a Mohammedan, nor a Jew.

So your saying there are a bunch of country dwellers running haiti?

[krowdick]

there is only one place more screwed up the haiti right now and the country is called iraq

[RedSkunk]

At 3/4/04 09:11 PM, krowdick wrote: there is only one place more screwed up the haiti right now and the country is called iraq

Iraq's not more screwed up, Iraq is a paradise now. The women are liberated and they all get free healthcare and totally new infrastructure.

Stop lying.

[GooieGreen]

And don't even start lying about how we are losing troops overseas. If you've been watching those damn liberal stations like BBC, you'd think everything over there is messed up horrible. However, if you watch Fox and (the award-winning) O'Reilly Factor, you would see that everything over there is 1000 times better since we invaded.

[RedSkunk]

At 3/4/04 10:21 PM, -gOOie- wrote: And don't even start lying about how we are losing troops overseas. If you've been watching those damn liberal stations like BBC, you'd think everything over there is messed up horrible. However, if you watch Fox and (the award-winning) O'Reilly Factor, you would see that everything over there is 1000 times better since we invaded.

Exactly. Why does everyone hate America? Here's a good source that isn't filled with liberal treason: http://www.georgewbush.com/News/