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At 12/22/09 05:23 PM, vargasdanny wrote: sorry kid but it sounds like you found out what marriage is lol, seriously though your gonna need all your power in yourself to let her go, if she is a mental nutcase then her parents will need to take her to a psychiatrist, not you, there will be more instances in your life where this may happen and you will need to do the same. Or you can make her hate you, that is if you are willing to talk meaner to her and make her hate you so much that she will not hang out with you anymore. That's all i can think of at the moment.

Well... I just had a talk with her parents.

I can't tell you how bad I felt after the talk. I basically said

"This relationship isn't going to work out if your daughter keeps treating me like this. Every time she comes over I just know that she'll be the one in charge of what we do. I never have or had a good time with her, and I just hang out with her because god knows what she'd do if I left her."

There was a HUGE silence from both of them before they eventually whispered to each other and said

"Well... None of us are forcing you to hang out with her, but we just want you to know that Sydney... Doesn't have that many friends. If you left her... Then I don't know what we'd do. It's up to you."

They soon left after that. It made me feel terrible, just absolutely disappointing 2 very nice people feel like shit. I fucking hate myself for doing that.

Tell her what the fuck her problems are. After she's done crying, hug her and look with a deep gaze towards the sky. Then tell her; "No worries, darling. Just stop believing in yourself. Instead, you should Believe In Me Who Believes In You!"

If she doesn't grow up after that, then Psht. Get the fuck away. She's hopeless.

If she doesn't begin to mature, suggest a therapist or professional help to her parents. That sort of friendship doesn't work.

At 12/22/09 04:45 PM, Guest8792 wrote:

At 12/22/09 04:32 PM, Mikay wrote: pee in her butt

It's good to know the intelligence level of Newgrounds is still at it's lowest potential.

My sentiments exactly...

If she is so much of a problem that she is affecting your life, you need to think of you before her, she can deal with her own problems but you dont need her dragging you down.

At 12/22/09 10:52 PM, Concocktion wrote: Tell her what the fuck her problems are. After she's done crying, hug her and look with a deep gaze towards the sky. Then tell her; "No worries, darling. Just stop believing in yourself. Instead, you should Believe In Me Who Believes In You!"

If she doesn't grow up after that, then Psht. Get the fuck away. She's hopeless.

I shoved my head into a woman's vagina once.

At 12/22/09 10:53 PM, DreamingToast wrote: If she doesn't begin to mature, suggest a therapist or professional help to her parents. That sort of friendship doesn't work.

I did suggest that to her parents. They didn't actually directly respond. And I agree, this friendship doesn't work for me.

At 12/22/09 10:58 PM, mariomusicmaker1 wrote: My sentiments exactly...

If she is so much of a problem that she is affecting your life, you need to think of you before her, she can deal with her own problems but you dont need her dragging you down.

At 12/22/09 10:59 PM, jordan777 wrote: dude, WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT HER

this is YOUR life, sometimes you cant help everybody.

You people make it sound as easy as just calling her and saying "Fuck off I don't wanna be friends."

But not until you're in a situation like this makes things a hell of a lot harder than it should be. If I just drop her like that then technically I'm responsible for any self harm she'll cause to herself in the future. No one will ever see things my way if she commits suicide.

Well she sounds like a bitch. Leave her, pitying someone does not count as friendship.

At 12/22/09 10:49 PM, Guest8792 wrote:

They soon left after that. It made me feel terrible, just absolutely disappointing 2 very nice people feel like shit. I fucking hate myself for doing that.

Damn, sorry to hear that. Did you mention the uncontrollable crying or the constant phone calling?

At 12/22/09 11:02 PM, kikomannnn wrote: What are you gaining from the pity-ship? Nothing.

leave the girl to die in the cold...

I have to agree with you, but for reasons previously stated it doesn't seem that easy.

At 12/22/09 11:04 PM, Crazyshark70 wrote: Try to relay these problems to her. Your also forgetting, she's growing up. *you know what I'm talking about face* So, try to unlock her sub conscious, don't neglect it. Maybe you'll learn a thing a two about what she's going through. She might have serious problems that need to be dealt with. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

She's been like this for years now, she hasn't "mentally" matured yet. Although you've made me realize another thing.

When she did go to the same elementary school as me she was heavily picked on by others. That's probably why she's so... different.

At 12/22/09 11:04 PM, Attacknun wrote: Well she sounds like a bitch. Leave her, pitying someone does not count as friendship.

I do agree with you.

At 12/22/09 11:06 PM, zen64 wrote: Damn, sorry to hear that. Did you mention the uncontrollable crying or the constant phone calling?

Yep. I mentioned everything to them and left them speechless. Fuck me for doing so.

Ok ok, I can see this has become a "Serious Buisness" situation for you so I'll cut the crap and give an honest opinion; This girl doesn't have problems. Sure, she's developing some, but it can be stopped (Though Not Easily And In A Few Minutes!) if your willing to help her. By help, I mean being there. If your not fuckin' there, and her other friend is "Cross-Country" your correct if your thinking she's gonna plummet. Your sad and whiny about being "Stuck" as the plank that's holding her stability, but you should be taking responsibility. If she ever was your friend, at some point even for a millisecond, you should show some form of compassion by staying there.

Continue fighting with her. Keep on going about your normal means; Put up with the girl. Also remember she's fucken fourteen. You know every girl, actually deep down inside, is exactly like her..? if you plan to have a wife in the future, tinges of this girls personality will be visible in the woman you love. This girl, unlike the pre-mentioned women, is at a phase where she is in fact going to GROW UP.

Take all of this now, and it'll pass later. No, I can't relate to you, but what the fuck.. Noone on this fucking forum can. Take our(/or my) advice and GTFO when your satisfied. It's all you can really do.

At 12/22/09 11:21 PM, Crazyshark70 wrote:

At 12/22/09 11:18 PM, Concocktion wrote: Take all of this now, and it'll pass later. No, I can't relate to you, but what the fuck.. Noone on this fucking forum can. Take our(/or my) advice and GTFO when your satisfied. It's all you can really do.

Obvious troll is obvious, plus you said some things I said, copy cat! >:(

I apologize for sharing 1% of the same ideas as you. I didn't read many other post in this thread, but I didn't see it as being necessary; Yet again, I apologize.

At 12/22/09 11:18 PM, Concocktion wrote: Ok ok, I can see this has become a "Serious Buisness" situation for you so I'll cut the crap and give an honest opinion; This girl doesn't have problems. Sure, she's developing some, but it can be stopped (Though Not Easily And In A Few Minutes!) if your willing to help her. By help, I mean being there. If your not fuckin' there, and her other friend is "Cross-Country" your correct if your thinking she's gonna plummet. Your sad and whiny about being "Stuck" as the plank that's holding her stability, but you should be taking responsibility. If she ever was your friend, at some point even for a millisecond, you should show some form of compassion by staying there.

Hmm... I have trouble believing you that she'll change.

She was like this 8 years ago. So when I was 7 she still managed to do the things as listed before. She was 6 back then. Of course back then she had more friends too. So technically... Yeah. I have taken responsibility for years but this is just where I can't take much of it anymore.

And I mean here's the thing. Yeah, I am bitching about her. But I've ran out of valid options right now.

Continue fighting with her. Keep on going about your normal means; Put up with the girl. Also remember she's fucken fourteen. You know every girl, actually deep down inside, is exactly like her..? if you plan to have a wife in the future, tinges of this girls personality will be visible in the woman you love. This girl, unlike the pre-mentioned women, is at a phase where she is in fact going to GROW UP.

Well I hope so at least.

Take all of this now, and it'll pass later. No, I can't relate to you, but what the fuck.. Noone on this fucking forum can. Take our(/or my) advice and GTFO when your satisfied. It's all you can really do.

Well zen64 can relate... At least I believe so. Well I thank you for the advice my man... I honestly do appreciate it. I also have to thank you for understanding that just leaving her will cause her to do the worst.

Well. I'm not gonna say it'll work out, cause I don't know and just barely care. I'm off now. Hopefully, you'll either find something better then my recommendation or get the realization that growing a light beard and hiking to Canada is the solution to all equations not involving the division of zero or negative zero.

I'm goin play MW2. PEACE!

At 12/22/09 10:49 PM, Guest8792 wrote: Well... I just had a talk with her parents.

I can't tell you how bad I felt after the talk. I basically said

"This relationship isn't going to work out if your daughter keeps treating me like this. Every time she comes over I just know that she'll be the one in charge of what we do. I never have or had a good time with her, and I just hang out with her because god knows what she'd do if I left her."

You should have told her yourself, or, if you really had to puss out, atleast link her to this thread [ lol ] never do things through the parents, thats just weird, even at your age

[ just saying, I think that was a bad way to go ]

You know what's wrong with her?

She's an immature 14 year old girl, and that's it. I've known plenty of people like her growing up, and, trust me, there's nothing you can do to really help them. They have to grow up on their own. And unless she's doing serious things that would lead you to believe she would commit suicide (self mutilation, signs of clinical depression), rather than this notion that "she has no friends = she will kill herself if I leave!", I very, very much doubt she would ever commit suicide. And, if she was, what does that say about how much she values your company? If she's basically using you to keep herself "sane" this toxic relationship that you have with her is her keeping your emotions hostage. That's not how friendships should go and it adds extra baggage on to you to make sure you're walking on eggshells, otherwise everything proceeding is somehow "your fault."

If you want to stay, you better stay on the notion that you can help her change and that she WANTS to change. If not, you need to get the hell out of there before she does more damage to YOUR sanity. Because having irrational guilt over a very hypothetical situation is just ridiculous.

Well, shit. I seriously don't know what to tell you. When it came to me, I lucked out and the people I dealt with moved. Unfortunately, that is not the case for you. If anything, don't feel like shit, man. You did the right thing IMO. Like you said, this girl has been this way since she was like 6 and now she's 14. Enough is enough. Remember that parents are next to always the last people to believe that something is wrong with their kid. Maybe they'll think about what you said and refer her to a psychologist or something. All you can really do now is wait and see.

What you have done may have come across as cruel but in a way, the parents needed to hear that. That the reason their daughter doesn't have much friends isn't because she is shy or anything, it's because she is a psycho bitch. By having that conversation, you may have instilled some doubt into them. You may feel like shit for doing it but the truth hurts, man. And a lot of people have a rough time facing it.

I only have a slightest idea of what you are going through but I know that it hurt to do what you just did but you would be all the better for doing it, chief. Well, I got to go to sleep. Good luck and stay strong.

"You never know what you have, until you lose it"
by backing away from this person, you should make her realize how lucky she is to have you as a friend treat you better.
also about the competition bit, that's just stupid, ignore it, dont feed her what she wants.

Call her ugly.

At 12/22/09 04:01 PM, Kiryuku wrote: Talk to her parents or something. It sounds like this kid needs some major help. Get her a psychiatrist or something. If I was you I would have slapped that bitch by now.

Lol agree. the only reason she has two other friends is because they're outta the city so they don't have to fucking see her everyday and let her win in ......... competitions?

I think you should stay by her. She's growing as a girl and shes only 14 years old shes bound to be emotional and a little crazy. I've known millions of girls just like her. She will grow out of it. She needs someone to help her gain confidence and learn how to communicate properly. If she was picked on then she probably thinks on the losing side of an argument that shes being attacked personally.... So like any normal girl.... She crys.

If you're a good friend you'll help her get through it. Which makes me ask. Do you care for being friends with her or do you only stay by her because you know if you left there would be no one else?

A few more:
At what point does she usually start to cry?
How long was she picked on and what for and at what age?
Does she have problems with her own personality and looks? (lol@ asking if a 14 year old girl is confident.) What has she ever done to promote the likely hood of suicide? until I've heard a good reason why i really doubt she needs you to stay alive.

She really doesn't sound anything unlike any other 14 year old girl.