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Well, if you are talking about Marvel and DC then yeah, it's almost all digital, but if you are talking companies like SLG, a lot of their stuff is hand done.

At 1/22/10 05:07 PM, gmanthesandwhichking wrote: Well, if you are talking about Marvel and DC then yeah, it's almost all digital, but if you are talking companies like SLG, a lot of their stuff is hand done.

Ahh, I didn't know who SLG was so I looked it up, fair enough.
I still don't like the term "hand drawn"

At 1/22/10 05:14 PM, M-Vero wrote:

I still don't like the term "hand drawn"

Yeah, i gotta stop using that term because of tablets.

hey there, I'm glad you haven't given up from the initial negative and sometimes hostile posts you got for your comics. I'm happy to see you've been improving loads, you should keep working on this unique art style. You're basically using blobs of colour and smudging them around to form the picture, am i rite?

At 1/22/10 11:49 PM, daryl2158 wrote: hey there, I'm glad you haven't given up from the initial negative and sometimes hostile posts you got for your comics. I'm happy to see you've been improving loads, you should keep working on this unique art style. You're basically using blobs of colour and smudging them around to form the picture, am i rite?

Yes as well as the burn tool, filters, and layering. I will be changing tactics away from the burn and try going for the lowering and raising of the single color with it overlap and blended.

I have a new comic page in the works using freestyle, just needing to correct the background for it.

Here is my attempt at adding in motion to the scene.

At 1/22/10 05:07 PM, gmanthesandwhichking wrote: Well, if you are talking about Marvel and DC then yeah, it's almost all digital, but if you are talking companies like SLG, a lot of their stuff is hand done.

I personally enjoy a web comic about french vampires and the creator uses just pencil "by hand" for it. Other artist use digital for the larger companies. I am still trying to figure out what I want to do for my own style here, although I think the freestyle has the most benefits visually as well with the lower cost to make it.

There will be a mixture of pencil "by hand" and freestyle work on this thread.

At 1/24/10 03:51 AM, wesmeadow wrote: Here is my attempt at adding in motion to the scene.

this hurts my eyes O__O

Its fairly good. i'd say.

I did this sketch at a bookstore.

Here is Valor going up against the Banshee Sisters.

At 1/24/10 07:43 PM, wesmeadow wrote: Here is Valor going up against the Banshee Sisters.

i like it, really looks like hes cutting through vapour the smudging gives that effect really good, anatomy on valor needs some work though :)

At 1/24/10 07:53 PM, ashman112 wrote:

At 1/24/10 07:43 PM, wesmeadow wrote: Here is Valor going up against the Banshee Sisters.

i like it, really looks like hes cutting through vapour the smudging gives that effect really good, anatomy on valor needs some work though :)

Is it the leg stance or the arms? Trying to figure it out.

I adjusted both, any better?

At 1/27/10 11:13 AM, wesmeadow wrote: I adjusted both, any better?

its the right shoulder to the viewer tht bugs me now and that arm aswell but other than that good work

Last crack at it before I go on to other pictures.

I did this one after judges ticked me off at an art contest. The judges went by size of the picture and not the quality of the work. Funny thing was that my other picture had people talking while leaving the judge's 1st place pick in the dust.

Hope it does not offend anybody, but seeing that I have sighted dicks in NG, I'd say I am in the clear.

Abyss

At 1/24/10 03:51 AM, wesmeadow wrote: Here is my attempt at adding in motion to the scene.

me likey. how did you do it? lens filter or did you manually do the smudging? I'm guessing the former?

At 1/28/10 07:42 AM, daryl2158 wrote:

At 1/24/10 03:51 AM, wesmeadow wrote: Here is my attempt at adding in motion to the scene.

me likey. how did you do it? lens filter or did you manually do the smudging? I'm guessing the former?

Here is how I did it.

At 1/21/10 03:50 PM, wesmeadow wrote:

At 1/18/10 05:36 PM, Ne7ers wrote: Your lines are still so smudged, personally i would rather see an uncoloured comic with a tighter style.

My freestyle is taking a single blob of color dot followed by focused manipulation of it. There is not a single line whatsoever in my photoshop work. The comic pics has solid lines as it was created by a harder and more costly managing of doing it all "by hand" followed up by copying it twice from the larger sheet format down and then scan in on my computer.

It seems you have some very clear ideas and processes for the way you produce images using your 'freestyle' method. But to be honest why must you start with a single blob and smudge it around the canvas? The concept sounds very cool, but using brushes provide control over density, texture, thickness and edge. Ultimately, this results in a much clearer, non blurred image.

Also in terms of professional illustration, its kinda frowned upon to make heavy use of certain filters, especially if its left obvious in the final work... i dont make the rules but its what clients prefer.

Things i could recommend for future projects are...

Less filters
Try using different techniques which result in sharper results

I wont comment on anatomy if your going for a cartoon style, but it does help for all styles of drawing.

Again im not trying to destroy your dream of being a comic artist. Being an art student myself, i understand its important to try and push for new styles and processes in ways of working, but looking at your end results i think it needs a bit of consideration. You have a good imagination and you have a good eye for composition.

^
Thank you for the advice, I will see what I can do with less filters, burns, and smudges.

I call this one "swat".

At 1/29/10 02:57 AM, wesmeadow wrote: I call this one "swat".

Bro you just went from a set of undesirable tools to another bunch of undesirable tools. I can see an inverted cloud filter, bad shape usage and illogical gradient overdose. Additionally, this may have something to do with my not knowing what you were thinking, but I don't even understand what the image is.
In my opinion, you're attempting complex imagery when you should be building your currently non-existant fundamentals by doing exercises such as simple black and white drawings, or light/shadows on simple prismatic objects.

At 1/29/10 03:25 AM, Kuoke wrote:

At 1/29/10 02:57 AM, wesmeadow wrote: I call this one "swat".

Bro you just went from a set of undesirable tools to another bunch of undesirable tools. I can see an inverted cloud filter, bad shape usage and illogical gradient overdose. Additionally, this may have something to do with my not knowing what you were thinking, but I don't even understand what the image is.
In my opinion, you're attempting complex imagery when you should be building your currently non-existant fundamentals by doing exercises such as simple black and white drawings, or light/shadows on simple prismatic objects.

I was working with the limitations placed on the work.

People wanted me not to use burns, so I did not use burns.
People wanted me not to use smudge, so I did not use smudge.
People wanted me not to use filters, so I did not use filters.

This is the end result.

At 1/29/10 12:14 PM, wesmeadow wrote: I was working with the limitations placed on the work.

People wanted me not to use burns, so I did not use burns.
People wanted me not to use smudge, so I did not use smudge.
People wanted me not to use filters, so I did not use filters.

This is the end result.

You know, there's nothing wrong with the Burn and Smudge tools, however you don't want to overuse them, that is where the problem is. Also remember, there are numerous tools at your disposal in any art program, get used to those as well. I also highly suggest checking out different digital art tutorials for the program you are using to find out how to use different tools and maybe new ways of using the same tools.

At 1/29/10 12:14 PM, wesmeadow wrote: I was working with the limitations placed on the work.
This is the end result.

what this shows, and I dont mean this in a bad way, is that it might be wise for you to start at the basics.
do not try to make elaborate drawings with multiple characters and movement and backgrounds and what not. Also do not try to have lots of pretty colors.
Start out by just drawing an apple, or maybe a pencil, or a cup of coffee... simple objects with only one or two colors.
Once you have done a few of those, move on to human figures... no fancy poses or camera angles, just take your vampire character for example, standing upright, facing the camera, arms along his sides.
Once you have done a few drawings like that, give him a different pose, or take a different camera-angle...
And so on.
Taking these little steps will definitely help you improve your art.
If you take a look at the art in my gallery, you may notice 2 things;
A} Most of my drawings only have one object/character, a lot of them dont even have an elaborate background.
B} I didnt use any filters (I think) nor the smudge/burn tools.
using filters and smudge/burn is a bit like using plasterboards in construction. you can build a house really quickly if you build it with plasterboards, but it will not be as good a house as one that was masoned. Of course, you can use plasterboards (filters/smudge/burn) for certain things, just dont build your entire house with them. Dont use them too much.

Please mind that I myself and other poeple in this thread are trying to help you by giving suggestions about what you shouldnt do. We all know how difficult it can be to get a decent grasp on this whole drawing thing, and we all sucked when we started. I know that I, and probably everybody else in this thread, wouldnt have gotten where they are today without other poeple telling them what to do.

that said; good luck!

Something that you might think, shading is NOT blurring...
I think your works are a bit too messy and well...too blurry.

Thank you for your advice guys, I will see what I can do.

Back from my break.

Recently bought an animation software program and was tinkering around with it. More required information I really do not know anything about, but will learn it with time.

No real idea on what style I want to focus on for my comic book series.