What would you like to see in a DAW

[Jirohbomb]

Well I have an idea for a DAW, but I know that this idea isn't gonna make it fly completely, so I would like to know what YOU would like to see in a DAW. Post up your heart's desire in a DAW, and you'll get a cookie (or pie if I'm out of cookies).

[Krank]

At 12/15/09 12:46 AM, Jirohbomb wrote: Well I have an idea for a DAW, but I know that this idea isn't gonna make it fly completely, so I would like to know what YOU would like to see in a DAW. Post up your heart's desire in a DAW, and you'll get a cookie (or pie if I'm out of cookies).

live real time collaboration over the internet

[Wujcik]

At 12/15/09 01:11 AM, Bjra wrote:

At 12/15/09 12:46 AM, Jirohbomb wrote: Well I have an idea for a DAW, but I know that this idea isn't gonna make it fly completely, so I would like to know what YOU would like to see in a DAW. Post up your heart's desire in a DAW, and you'll get a cookie (or pie if I'm out of cookies).

live real time collaboration over the internet

YES. That would be awesome. although I thought I heard something about fruity loops being able to do something like this? I dunno never looked into it.

One thing that came to mind is a program that has a sequencer like fruity loops, but way better recording capabilities. Even though I have "better" programs, I always end up coming back to fruity loops for its nice sequencer and ease of use. But the minute I want to add any real instruments... it gets annoying. Samples are even kinda annoying to use.

[SymbolCymbal]

At 12/15/09 01:11 AM, Bjra wrote:

live real time collaboration over the internet

Never!... cross the streams!!!

[Krank]

At 12/15/09 01:16 AM, Wujcik wrote: One thing that came to mind is a program that has a sequencer like fruity loops, but way better recording capabilities.

you mean cubase?

[Jirohbomb]

At 12/15/09 01:11 AM, Bjra wrote: live real time collaboration over the internet

The truth is that was my whole idea, but it was alot more polished. Like I had a backbone that was discussed with other artists on the audio portal.

[nathanallenpinard]

neural interface

[Wujcik]

At 12/15/09 01:22 AM, Bjra wrote: you mean cubase?

Maybe? I've never used it. If that's true I should check it out.

[Wujcik]

At 12/15/09 01:23 AM, nathanallenpinard wrote: neural interface

Sorry to double post but if you mean what I think you mean, someone could in fact make that.

Ever heard of the Force trainer? Its a hundred bucks, so its kinda expensive, but just the fact that its on the market is amazing. Its just a toy that uses brain waves to control a parameter, in this case its how fast the fan blows.

Why couldn't it control midi signals?

I'm actually considering, if I ever get around to building my own midi controller and understanding more about the electronics involved, buying and cannibalizing this thing to try and make it into a midi controller. Not exactly a whole DAW, but still fucking awesome.

[Cross666]

I'd like a DAW that slaps me when I get to the point of over-building a song, and start destroying the fundamental parts that created it.

[loansindi]

At 12/15/09 02:01 AM, Wujcik wrote: Why couldn't it control midi signals?

because it's a single axis? because most 'brain control' applications require a fair bit of specific concentration to actuate that axis?

'thought controlled' stuff has been around since the 90s, at least. probably earlier. don't feel like researching it at the moment.

I'm actually considering, if I ever get around to building my own midi controller and understanding more about the electronics involved, buying and cannibalizing this thing to try and make it into a midi controller. Not exactly a whole DAW, but still fucking awesome.

be very careful 'cannibalizing' anything you're going to attach to your head. You see a lot of homebrew brain-interface projects that are actually incredibly terrifying because they lack proper isolation. Opto-isolate everything.

I doubt the cheapish build of a toy is going to have the precision you'd really want in this sort of application. I could be wrong.

[jarrydn]

At 12/15/09 02:01 AM, Wujcik wrote: I'm actually considering, if I ever get around to building my own midi controller and understanding more about the electronics involved, buying and cannibalizing this thing to try and make it into a midi controller. Not exactly a whole DAW, but still fucking awesome.

You could probably turn it into either a very ineffective breath controller, or theremin style controller. It would have to be auxiliary to your main controller, because you'd likely not be able to do anything meaningful with it on it's own.

Having said that, turning it into a midi controller would be a piece of cake. Grab an Arduino kit and you're well on your way to having your very own finnicky, useless midi controller :P

[DJHomeless]

I guess what I want to see in a DAW is...
No wait, I don't need that, but I assure you that it will help alot of people that do not understand music.

A list of scales, or relative scales, you know what I mean...
Parallel notes or so... In one word, MUSIC.

[Mystery-Moon-Pie-Aud]

One with enough space to accurately display your area. FL just doesn't cut it, neither does reaper.

[Kaizerwolf]

What Bjra said. Collaborate in real time.

[Wujcik]

At 12/15/09 11:45 AM, loansindi wrote:

At 12/15/09 02:01 AM, Wujcik wrote:

because it's a single axis? because most 'brain control' applications require a fair bit of specific concentration to actuate that axis?

'thought controlled' stuff has been around since the 90s, at least. probably earlier. don't feel like researching it at the moment.

I'm aware of that, I've seen a few things here and there on the subject, as it interests me. Whats so cool about this toy is not that its new technology, but that that technology is now cheap enough to be used with a mass produced in the form of a toy. Most of that hundred dollars probably goes to Lucas Arts for the rights to the star wars stuff.

I doubt the cheapish build of a toy is going to have the precision you'd really want in this sort of application. I could be wrong.

At 12/15/09 11:58 AM, jarrydn wrote: You could probably turn it into either a very ineffective breath controller, or theremin style controller. It would have to be auxiliary to your main controller, because you'd likely not be able to do anything meaningful with it on it's own.

Having said that, turning it into a midi controller would be a piece of cake. Grab an Arduino kit and you're well on your way to having your very own finnicky, useless midi controller :P

Finicky maybe, but certainly not useless. If I understand how you use these, you can probably train you mind to become very adapt at changing values quickly. The main reason I like the idea is because it adds another value that you can change. The technology is available to be able to change multiple parameters, I remember specifically a dude chilling on a boat with some hot chick, while simultaneously driving the boat, all hands free. So imagine playing guitar, and being able to change the effects on the guitar with your mind.

But anyway this is supposed to be about DAW's not midi controllers.

[Pure-Metal-UTA]

Going away from the mind controlled midi controller thing for a second, I would like to see a DAW that can run really fast even though there's alot of CPU usage. On top of that, A DAW that won't crash as a result of too much CPU usage.
The mind controlled interface thing would be extremely cool. But if you want it to control more than one parameter, it would be really hard. Say for example you're live recording using your mind as the midi controller and you had multiple intruments recording at the same time, and each instrument would be set to a certain brainwave. THAT would be extremely difficult. Master that and you're probably some sort of genius or E.T being.

[Blackhole12]

Someone needs to make a VST/Rewire/something plugin that allows for universal online collaboration.

[Jirohbomb]

Well since people got off topic, and some didn't get the point of what I was asking. I am trying to get a very good idea of what the people want in a DAW for I can continue in a project of creating a DAW that allows real time collaboration, or a for a few that can't do real time, a system that will allow a special type of online collaboration. I want to create the standard of music collaboration, and I need your help to know what the community wants in a DAW. Imagine if this project actually works, you'll all be listed as contributors to this project. I just want to know what you guys want in a DAW, but don't say online collaboration, that was my idea...

[Blackhole12]

5 bucks this is vaporware before it even starts.

[Jirohbomb]

At 12/16/09 01:08 AM, Blackhole12 wrote: 5 bucks this is vaporware before it even starts.

Let's hope not, I want this program to fly.

[joshhunsaker]

At 12/15/09 01:11 AM, Bjra wrote:
live real time collaboration over the internet

Reaper does this.

[Darren-M]

i would really like to see more surround sound editing functions in daws, also i would like to see more things like synths builders and such, like building what you want from scratch for instruments based off of parts or certain things you assemble to be put together for the instrument or such that you want. i know they are out there but i want to see more of it and more user friendly types

[djInTheDark]

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but I didn't see it if you did.

Multi-visual production interface.

I know its been done before quite a few times but I have never seen it the it should be. The idea is, is that you are able to see what you are writing in several different forms (one at a time of course). The object is to be able to view your composition in real time to see it in a alternate form. For example, say your in left to right tracking mode, but you want to be in up to down. Just press the button to execute this and presto, its in the new form. Or if you wanted to go to even greater lengths, you could also have things like, switch from tracker to staff notation (sheet music) or to view it in audio or wave form editor (kind of like audacity).

Hope this helped.

[Krank]

At 12/16/09 01:41 AM, joshhunsaker wrote:

At 12/15/09 01:11 AM, Bjra wrote:
live real time collaboration over the internet in cubase

fixed

[Chozz]

At 12/15/09 01:51 AM, Wujcik wrote:

At 12/15/09 01:22 AM, Bjra wrote: you mean cubase?

Maybe? I've never used it. If that's true I should check it out.

Nuendo is just as good and looks smarter :)

[Jirohbomb]

Not trying to be a bit pissy, but I am actually serious about this trying to take off as I talked to some musicians from the audio portal, and they thought that my idea, and how I described it to them, was really good and they would like to see it take off, so please keep this related to what you would like to see in a DAW. Thank you.

[loansindi]

At 12/16/09 11:41 PM, Jirohbomb wrote: so please keep this related to what you would like to see in a DAW. Thank you.

Extensive automation. The ability to view score information in multiple formats (the piano roll is fine but I'd like to see a staff somewhere. Tablature entry would be helpful for guitarists.)

An excellent sampler is necessary. Top-notch VST support. Nyquist support would be nice as well.

Oh, here's a good one. Scripting support. It might seem like something you'd be reaching for uses for, but I think some solid scripting would be handy sometimes.

[Pure-Metal-UTA]

At 12/16/09 11:41 PM, Jirohbomb wrote: Not trying to be a bit pissy, but I am actually serious about this trying to take off as I talked to some musicians from the audio portal, and they thought that my idea, and how I described it to them, was really good and they would like to see it take off, so please keep this related to what you would like to see in a DAW. Thank you.

Well if you're looking for seriousness, I have a few ideas.
I would like a DAW in which when putting in lots of VSTs and VSTis, it doesn't eat a bunch of CPU memory. On top of that, I would like a DAW that can channel very easily and very fast.
Online collaberation over this would be sweet as hell, and would make things so much easier when it comes to collaberating.
With the online collaberation, give the ability to share VSTs and VSTis while connected. And perhaps give it a band-like feel, like, have some sort of leader that can select who's to record, they can either pick one person, or pick everyone to record at the same time.
If I come up with any more ideas, I'll post them
THAT would be awesome.

[la-yinn]

I want a function that allows me to sidechain freely to a set frequency range.

For example a dubstep track with a massive bassline. I want the bass to be phat as f***, and still have the kick have some 'umph' left. So I want to sidechain the bass to the kick, but only for the 100-200 Hz range.