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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-29 14:08:10 Reply

At 6/29/11 01:29 AM, Nechura wrote: New tops:

#1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 28973

Not bad, but nothing special. It's a bit boring and doesn't really go anywhere... definitely doesn't deserve to be in the Top 5.

#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 29634

What a load of boring old crap. Ooh I can make an electro synth sound like deadmau5 -- perish the thought that there actually be any originality in music nowadays.

#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 29256

Boring.

#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 29259

Utter shit.

#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 29524

"inspired by...Skrillex, Zomboy, Porter Robinson, and XKore"
That's a shame -- if only he were to be inspired by good musicians, like... nearly anyone else.

Wow, this week's Top 5 were awful. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-29 17:09:28 Reply

At 6/29/11 02:08 PM, RampantMusik wrote: Wow, this week's Top 5 were awful. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Why so pissy?

I'm not to judge because I disliked half of them, but there's no need to insult the authors that spent time on them.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-29 23:56:32 Reply

At 6/29/11 05:09 PM, Decibel wrote:
At 6/29/11 02:08 PM, RampantMusik wrote: Wow, this week's Top 5 were awful. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Why so pissy?

I'm not to judge because I disliked half of them, but there's no need to insult the authors that spent time on them.

He is having withdrawals... I haven't had a top 5 in over a month now! Don't worry Rampant, I'll duke out something super generic just to cheer you up! xx


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 00:17:17 Reply

At 6/29/11 05:09 PM, Decibel wrote:
At 6/29/11 02:08 PM, RampantMusik wrote: Wow, this week's Top 5 were awful. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Why so pissy?

I'm not to judge because I disliked half of them, but there's no need to insult the authors that spent time on them.

In recent months, most of the Weekly Top Five tracks have been generic, boring, and a lot of the tracks sound like they're imitating deadmau5 or Skrillex. I realize that these authors spent time on their tracks, but when they're not going to try and develop their own sound, and instead ride solely on the coattails of another artist's style, then I have no respect for them.

As for why I'm "so pissy?" I don't like pop music, nor do I like electronic music -- trance, dance, electro, house, dnb, dubstep, and techno all sound to me like they require very little actual musical skill to compose. (Comparatively speaking, I mean. Many musicians in general are indeed lacking in talent, but on the whole electronic music requires much less talent and skill in theoretical knowledge, experimentation, and both composition and arranging techniques than composing for, say, a symphonic orchestra.)

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 00:28:25 Reply

At 6/30/11 12:17 AM, RampantMusik wrote: As for why I'm "so pissy?" I don't like pop music, nor do I like electronic music -- trance, dance, electro, house, dnb, dubstep, and techno all sound to me like they require very little actual musical skill to compose. (Comparatively speaking, I mean. Many musicians in general are indeed lacking in talent, but on the whole electronic music requires much less talent and skill in theoretical knowledge, experimentation, and both composition and arranging techniques than composing for, say, a symphonic orchestra.)

Composing for a symphonic orchestra doesn't technically require anything either. You could just write a piece where the only thing they do is play a C major chord. Electronic music doesn't require shit for skills to make either, but the best and most intricate electronic music has just as much of an educated thought process behind it as any other music.

And the top 5 on Newgrounds does not accurately represent the best of electronic music. Just like it certainly doesn't represent the pinnacle of orchestral music.

on another note, let's be careful not to derail the thread TOO much
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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 00:55:45 Reply

At 6/30/11 12:17 AM, RampantMusik wrote: In recent months, most of the Weekly Top Five tracks have been generic, boring, and a lot of the tracks sound like they're imitating deadmau5 or Skrillex. I realize that these authors spent time on their tracks, but when they're not going to try and develop their own sound, and instead ride solely on the coattails of another artist's style, then I have no respect for them.

As for why I'm "so pissy?" I don't like pop music, nor do I like electronic music -- trance, dance, electro, house, dnb, dubstep, and techno all sound to me like they require very little actual musical skill to compose. (Comparatively speaking, I mean. Many musicians in general are indeed lacking in talent, but on the whole electronic music requires much less talent and skill in theoretical knowledge, experimentation, and both composition and arranging techniques than composing for, say, a symphonic orchestra.)

THIS may change the way you look at electronic music. Oh and btw the track on the link I just put there was made by an electronic musician ;)

And indeed as SBB mentioned the AP Top 5 does not represent the best of EDM... not even close my friend, so don't let it change your perception :)

Search around a bit b4 making assumptions. Even in the Audio Portal there's some great and original electronic music, you would be impressed.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 01:42:56 Reply

:Many musicians in general are indeed lacking in talent, but on the whole electronic music requires much less talent and skill in theoretical knowledge, experimentation, and both composition and arranging techniques than composing for, say, a symphonic orchestra.)

Go fuck yourself.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 02:31:27 Reply

I'll just leave this here

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 02:34:02 Reply

At 6/30/11 01:42 AM, Cross666 wrote:
Many musicians in general are indeed lacking in talent, but on the whole electronic music requires much less talent and skill in theoretical knowledge, experimentation, and both composition and arranging techniques than composing for, say, a symphonic orchestra.)
Go fuck yourself.

Wow yeah, your latest track took a lot of skill -- un-duh-un-duh-un-duh-un-duh bassline? How original.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 02:34:04 Reply

That's the most compelling argument you can come up with Cross666?

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 02:47:32 Reply

Nechura-beans said:
Weekly bidness

A higher standard then that of past weeks, but nothing really captivated me. I think the first song was the most inspired but perhaps poorest done in terms of originality. No spam or proxied winners though so hoo-rah to that.

Back to Binary Universe. Love that album, its even nicer when not streamed off youtube lol.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 03:02:31 Reply

At 6/30/11 02:47 AM, InvisibleObserver wrote: poorest done in terms of originality.

*in terms of production quality.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 04:07:17 Reply

At 6/30/11 02:31 AM, Acid-Paradox wrote: I'll just leave this here

This +1

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 06:17:47 Reply

Talent Talent Talent Talent Talent Talent

Don't feed the troll, people.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 10:03:43 Reply

At 6/30/11 02:34 AM, SBB wrote: That's the most compelling argument you can come up with Cross666?

It's not an argument, it's a suggestion. I didn't argue any point, I just told him to go fuck himself.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 10:11:03 Reply

At 6/30/11 02:34 AM, RampantMusik wrote:

Wow yeah, your latest track took a lot of skill -- un-duh-un-duh-un-duh-un-duh bassline? How original.

Phhht, don't mention how my entire piano segment was flawlessly recorded and way better than your spasm, broken up, choppy piano submissions are. Not to mention I can write my own music, I don't need to pick up classical music and change the key note to try and get something "new".


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 11:03:23 Reply

At 6/22/11 09:45 PM, SUB4RU wrote:
At 6/22/11 04:16 PM, Supersteph54 wrote:
At 6/22/11 04:13 PM, SBB wrote: Nothing will change. It didn't when the 07 redesign happened.
But the admins claim that they have a good way of getting rid of 0-bombing this time.
They should make your previous 10 votes or all votes visible on your profile, and/or limit your votes to 20 per week or 10 per day or something reasonable.

PS This weeks no.1 is awesome! *sarcasm*

Never gonna happen - people turn into monsters when they know what you've voted on.

Also from what ive gleaned theyre simply gonna make it so each additional vote you give a song just changes the original vote you gave it - so if you originally voted it 5 and then 0 the next day - instead of averaging out to whatever the score you gave it will simply be zero, not combined.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 11:04:55 Reply

oh also I dont know if anyone noticed but they fixed proxying - if you try to use a proxy it simply doesn't let you sign in.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 11:45:11 Reply

At 6/30/11 11:04 AM, Chronamut wrote: oh also I dont know if anyone noticed but they fixed proxying - if you try to use a proxy it simply doesn't let you sign in.

Good, now Splatter won't get Top 5s any more.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 13:11:20 Reply

At 6/30/11 10:11 AM, Cross666 wrote: Phhht, don't mention how my entire piano segment was flawlessly recorded and way better than your spasm, broken up, choppy piano submissions are.

I had a feeling you were the prick who zero-bombed my submissions. That "spasm, broken up, choppy piano submissions" comment all but confirms it. Are you really such an immature fuck that you'll resort to zero-bombing? I mean, I don't think your music's great, but I at least have the decency to vote fairly on it -- or not vote on it at all.

Not to mention I can write my own music, I don't need to pick up classical music and change the key note to try and get something "new".

I'm not even going to comment on this, because it makes no sense whatsoever.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 13:24:17 Reply

At 6/30/11 04:07 AM, Mrmilkcarton wrote:
At 6/30/11 02:31 AM, Acid-Paradox wrote: I'll just leave this here
This +1

Okay...... I guess I'll just second that ^^'

And HELL YEAH This Binary Universe album rocks!!
Speaking of talent and innovation, you should check out IO's music.
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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 13:32:12 Reply

At 6/30/11 01:11 PM, RampantMusik wrote:
At 6/30/11 10:11 AM, Cross666 wrote: Phhht, don't mention how my entire piano segment was flawlessly recorded and way better than your spasm, broken up, choppy piano submissions are.
I had a feeling you were the prick who zero-bombed my submissions.

Sorry bro I was out at my nightclub that night from 9:00 PM to 1:30 AM.
www.quantumartistmanagement.com, see for yourself. I was mixing that night to fill-in for our opener.

So stop pissing your pants, it was someone else who you pissed off.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 14:07:20 Reply

At 6/30/11 01:32 PM, Cross666 wrote: Sorry bro I was out at my nightclub that night from 9:00 PM to 1:30 AM.
www.quantumartistmanagement.com, see for yourself. I was mixing that night to fill-in for our opener.

Were you using a laptop?!

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 14:24:28 Reply

Might I mention the first post of the thread again? Specifically #5.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 14:47:09 Reply

At 6/30/11 11:45 AM, Sequenced wrote: Good, now Splatter won't get Top 5s any more.

While I wasn't fond of how he made weekly, I actually thought he had some pretty cool idea's and concepts going on, they just weren't very polished or well produced.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-30 15:40:37 Reply

At 6/30/11 02:07 PM, jpbear wrote:
At 6/30/11 01:32 PM, Cross666 wrote: Sorry bro I was out at my nightclub that night from 9:00 PM to 1:30 AM.
www.quantumartistmanagement.com, see for yourself. I was mixing that night to fill-in for our opener.
Were you using a laptop?!

I had my laptop there to record the mixes from the night, but no I was on CDJs, midas brought out an allen & heath zone controller though.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-07-06 02:34:18 Reply

New tops!

#1

  • Suddenly, Sentience [RD2011]
    Suddenly, Sentience [RD2011] by SantaBro

    Click to listen.

    Score
    4.12 / 5.00
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    Dubstep
    Popularity
    385 Views

#2

  • ~|| JustTheWayYouAre Retro RMX
    ~|| JustTheWayYouAre Retro RMX by T-Free

    Click to listen.

    Score
    4.19 / 5.00
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    Loop
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    Pop
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    192 Views

#3

  • {RD2011} Mecha Marauder
    {RD2011} Mecha Marauder by alextheDJ

    Click to listen.

    Score
    4.56 / 5.00
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    Genre
    Dubstep
    Popularity
    585 Views

#4

  • Frustration -
    Frustration - by InvisibleObserver

    Click to listen.

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    4.47 / 5.00
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    233 Views

#5

  • RD2011 - Not Human
    RD2011 - Not Human by thatcomposerguy

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    4.50 / 5.00
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    Ambient
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    314 Views

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-07-06 03:32:21 Reply

At 7/6/11 02:34 AM, Mich wrote: New tops!

#1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 30638
#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 31118
#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 30505
#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 30706
#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 30501

Now THAT , Ladies and Gentlemen, is a Top 5! Congrats to all the artists.

Also, I told SBB to make a Dubstep, yes I take credit ^^

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-07-06 14:05:02 Reply

Beast-ass, I now have two accounts to make frontpage posts with

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-07-06 16:22:26 Reply

At 7/6/11 02:05 PM, SBB wrote: Beast-ass, I now have two accounts to make frontpage posts with

omg dat's not dubstep it souds like ambients and industrials.