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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-11 05:31:02 Reply

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18190

I hate it.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18279

I like it.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18770

The author updated it with "lol wtf is this doing in top 5? :S". I concur.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18712

Pretty boring and repetitive.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18203

adorable.

Not a very good week, none of the songs are particularly interesting though #2 sounds nice.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-11 06:55:38 Reply

At 5/11/11 04:53 AM, SBB wrote: May 11
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18190
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18279
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18770
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18712
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 18203

Meh, not the worst Top 5 we've had although other than #2 and #5 they're just generic and repetitive, sorry :(.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-11 11:07:58 Reply

At 5/11/11 06:55 AM, Supersteph54 wrote: Meh, not the worst Top 5 we've had although other than #2 and #5 they're just generic and repetitive, sorry :(.

Agreed. I may not have been on NG for that long, but I've seen some of the weekly Top 5, and this almost sets a new standard :D

I find it unfair that this type of music gets in the Top 5 simply because dub-heads automatically zero-bomb anything uploaded to the classical section. Maybe we should require users have an IQ check (or at least an ear check) before they're allowed to vote on songs :P

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-12 00:53:02 Reply

i don't know how my song got on the top 5 but...um...thanks?

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-18 04:22:00 Reply

New tops!

#1

  • Riding Through The City
    Riding Through The City by HeavenSent

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    3.80 / 5.00
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    Loop
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    Hip Hop - Modern
    Popularity
    148 Views

#2

  • Stroma
    Stroma by PrEmoEffect

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    4.21 / 5.00
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    House
    Popularity
    339 Views

#3

  • TI:.Alternate Attention
    TI:.Alternate Attention by TIMarbury

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    4.33 / 5.00
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    Trance
    Popularity
    425 Views

#4

  • Black on Black on Black lol
    Black on Black on Black lol by jpsuperfresh

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    4.36 / 5.00
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    Hip Hop - Modern
    Popularity
    352 Views

#5

  • xKore - Entropy (Preview)
    xKore - Entropy (Preview) by xKore

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    4.34 / 5.00
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    Dubstep
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    544 Views

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-18 04:55:12 Reply

At 5/18/11 04:22 AM, Mich wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21132

...fuck

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 20173

I liked this song before it got top #2. He sold out though so I don't enjoy it as much anymore. *adjusts empty glasses*

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 19651

Below par generic trance, just gotta live with that...

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 20116

I can't listen to that...

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 20699

xKore is das mann.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-25 06:52:41 Reply

New tops!

#1

  • SH - Circle
    SH - Circle by shaggyhaired

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    4.39 / 5.00
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    Hip Hop - Olskool
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    386 Views

#2

  • -A Taste Of...- V.3
    -A Taste Of...- V.3 by Back-From-Purgatory

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    4.39 / 5.00
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    Heavy Metal
    Popularity
    741 Views

#3

  • Premo - Impossible to Convey
    Premo - Impossible to Convey by PrEmoEffect

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    4.49 / 5.00
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    House
    Popularity
    381 Views

#4

  • Red Sky 2011
    Red Sky 2011 by harrypalyan

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    3.89 / 5.00
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    New Wave
    Popularity
    313 Views

#5

  • >>Chao<<
    >>Chao<< by kirja100

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    4.20 / 5.00
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    Dance
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    282 Views

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-25 07:25:11 Reply

At 5/25/11 06:52 AM, Mich wrote:
#1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21885

Love it

#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21684

Love it

#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21529

Too much sidechain and over compression.

#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21240

Fair.

#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22157

Better than #4.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-25 13:36:10 Reply

At 5/25/11 06:52 AM, Mich wrote: #2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21684

Never thought I'd see the day.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-25 13:45:57 Reply

At 5/25/11 06:52 AM, Mich wrote: #1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21885

Finally something interesting. The choir thing is pretty annoying however.

#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21684

Good tune, a bit much going on in the high mid range so it sounds a bit tinny especially the guitars, but I enjoy this kind of music.

#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21529

I enjoyed the intro and the synths but dayum that mix is harsh

#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21240

horrible

#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22157

i hate it. Just a boring basshunter/b0unc3 kinda theme with terrible generic vocals.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-26 08:38:13 Reply

At 5/25/11 06:52 AM, Mich wrote: New tops!

#1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21885

Love it.

#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21684

Very Cool, He/She/It deserves every 5 he got.

#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21529

Geeeeeennnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrriiii iiiiiicccccccccc. No offence.

#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21240

Nothing too special, repetetive.

#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22157

I thought copyrighted vocals weren't allowed. lolwut?

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-05-26 11:59:14 Reply

At 5/25/11 06:52 AM, Mich wrote: #1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21885

Not great, it got very repetitive and there wasn't much development or variation, but it is far, far, far, far, far from the worst track that ever got Top 5.

#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21684

Nice, I like it. The mixing of the rhythm guitar seems a little too powerful compared to the rest of the track, especially since the clean(er) electric at the beginning sounds very thin in comparison. I wasn't so sure about the orchestral section -- both parts sound really good separated, but to me they sound more like two different tracks mashed somewhat awkwardly together.

#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21529

Sounds like deadmau5. Very bland. Couldn't listen past 1:30 before my ears got bored.

#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 21240

Really boring. The synths sound like Magix Music Maker presets lol

#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22157

Seems like Chernobyl horribly mutated Russians' taste of 'good' music. I mean, to go from Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev, and Rimsky-Korsakov to the Russian equivalent of Rebecca Black singing "Chao!" with a tape-delay echo... What is this I don't even...

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 06:50:55 Reply

New tops!

#1

  • B7 - Pokemon TV Theme Cover
    B7 - Pokemon TV Theme Cover by Burn7

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    4.19 / 5.00
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    General Rock
    Popularity
    1,465 Views

#2

  • Who Are We - BeefourMusic
    Who Are We - BeefourMusic by SUB4RU

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    4.03 / 5.00
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    Genre
    Dance
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    366 Views

#3

  • -Bafana- Untitled
    -Bafana- Untitled by Bafana

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    4.07 / 5.00
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    Dance
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    260 Views

#4

  • Fighting (FF7 Cover)
    Fighting (FF7 Cover) by ArtificialFear

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    Score
    4.35 / 5.00
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    Heavy Metal
    Popularity
    803 Views

#5

  • Tether your consideration
    Tether your consideration by InvisibleObserver

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    Score
    4.10 / 5.00
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    Genre
    Miscellaneous
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    170 Views

Yay InvisibleObserver. :)

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 07:15:07 Reply

At 6/1/11 06:50 AM, Mich wrote: #1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22780

Meh.

#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22639

No.

#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23214

No.

#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23473

Meh.

#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23029

Yay.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 10:21:48 Reply

At 6/1/11 06:50 AM, Mich wrote: #1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22780

Pretty good.

#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22639

Subpar generica, I hate it.

#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23214

Sounds like diabetes.

#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23473

Excellent drums and some of the transition things were great.

#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23029

Err, sounds quite random and, well fragmented, I think

Yay InvisibleObserver. :)

Yay!!

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 11:12:36 Reply

You'd expect a Top 5 with two generic electronic songs, two VG covers, only one original thought-out track and as usual no orchestral.

AP redesign, please come soon. D:


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 12:25:05 Reply

At 6/1/11 11:12 AM, Supersteph54 wrote: You'd expect a Top 5 with two generic electronic songs, two VG covers, only one original thought-out track and as usual no orchestral.

AP redesign, please come soon. D:

Eh, the function doesn't really need a re-design. It's not a measure to see how good your music is, but rather to promote songs from those that were lucky enough to not get zero-bombed and to help them get some exposure.

Its a good thing that it at least has a minimum rating requirement for the songs it chooses - otherwise you might be subjected to some rather serious delirious biz-nasty. Hell, I think that the vast majority of the music on there tops the other 99.9% of recent submissions with relative ease, .

Your music or people's stuff that didn't get featured may be better in your opinion (and mine too, I checked out your songs and holy crap, 5* bonanza!), and yeah, the Dn'B and dubstep is mostly generic as all hell, but - as aforementioned like a million times - its all subjective and attributable to the "instant gratification" mindset. Take my opinion, for example, that most orchestral music on Newgrounds is just a dull copy of that generic epic vibe that so many people try to achieve nowadays. I'm sure most NG'ers out there would STRONGLY disagree with that!

Now, there is no freakin' way I'll ever see my name up there due to what genres I dabble in and the usual NG member's musical taste/perception + zero bombtards (and *possibly, just *maybe* the quality of my tunes themselves >8D), but you don't see me ranting on and on about how someone's song sucks. Well, thats also attributable to having screwed-up standards and having barely any musical education, but I hope you get my point.

No hate intended. And bluh bluh unnecessarily large response.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 13:23:29 Reply

At 6/1/11 12:25 PM, DonCarrera wrote:
No hate intended. And bluh bluh unnecessarily large response.

No, the audio portal needs a redesign.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 13:36:46 Reply

At 6/1/11 12:25 PM, DonCarrera wrote: No hate intended. And bluh bluh unnecessarily large response.

You call that unnecessarily large?

*Ehem*

I'll have to disagree with you that the music in the Top 5 is better than the majority of songs submitted throughout the week in question. Most of the time, they do have some quality in them, true, but we've had instances in the past where the Top 5 was just ridiculously bad (listen to #2 - #5 of the post I linked to), and I'm absolutely certain that there are much more deserving submissions than the average Top 5 song.

Being an audio moderator, I listen to a lot of the submissions posted on NG, and throughout one week of approving/banning new artists, I can really easily find 5 submissions which sound great and are deserving of being part of the weekly tops, yet if, after a few days of their approval, I look back on the underdogs who made these gems, they don't get any recognition even when they submit more songs once they get approved. And if I can find 5 submissions which deserve to be part of the Top 5 from submissions by unapproved Newgrounds artists, most of them being beginners who just started making music, then I'm sure it isn't hard to find Top 5-deserving submissions from artists who posted a handful of songs on NG.

I'm glad you like my music, and I've checked your songs and I really like them too. They're leagues better than most songs in the Top 5, but have you ever got a Top 5? No, because somehow songs that are worse than yours are making it to the Top 5. I'm not saying that the current Top 5 songs are bad, because they're not. I even enjoyed one or two of them. Still, my point is that there are more experienced artists who deserve the recognition more than these artists and yet they don't get it. I can mention names if you want.

Yes, you're right, the Top 5 is currently a measure on how lucky you are to get past the 0-bombs. But think about it - wouldn't it be nicer if the system got redesigned and the Top 5 became a measure of the best songs throughout the week, and not a measure of luck? I agree that the current system is not just influenced by 0-bombs, which is why you don't see many orchestral songs on the Top 5 - simply because orchestral isn't so popular - and a new fixed system won't guarantee more orchestral songs either, but at the least it will guarantee that the best songs of the week (in the eyes of the voters) get showcased in the weekly tops, and that's a good thing.

Look at the Flash Portal. Have you ever seen a flash which got a daily or weekly award which is not deserving of its award? 99% of the time, the flashes which get awards are good, and deserve their exposure, yet the Flash Portal's system is just as automated as the Audio Portal's system.

In fact, to prove that the system needs work, I'll tell you that once I did indeed get a Top 5, but it was on a submission which was posted under the 'Latin' genre (I won't link to it to avoid self-advertising). That genre is pretty obscure and unpopular, so in turn it didn't get 0-bombed much, and I landed second place. The thing is, it wasn't even one of my best submissions. Sure, people liked it, but I had simply better submissions which didn't get a Top 5. And I'm sure you and all other fair users of of the Audio Portal's system prefer a Top 5 which actually showcases deserving submissions, and not submissions which got there by luck.

So yes, the Audio Portal needs a redesign. The admins hinted that the new redesign will include a much better Audio Portal system, and all we can do is hope it comes soon.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 13:43:09 Reply

Guys. Read the first post.

And shut up if it's not about the songs in the tops.

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 13:49:28 Reply

SUPERSTEPH69, my response will be so large to your comments above that it will span TWO POSTS

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I agree with you.

Im going to go cry in a corner now.

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At 6/1/11 01:36 PM, Supersteph54 wrote:
At 6/1/11 12:25 PM, DonCarrera wrote: No hate intended. And bluh bluh unnecessarily large response.
You call that unnecessarily large?

*Ehem*
*bla bla*
I'm glad you like my music, and I've checked your songs and I really like them too. They're leagues better than most songs in the Top 5, but have you ever got a Top 5? No, because somehow songs that are worse than yours are making it to the Top 5.
*bla bla bla*

Wait, songs worse than mine? How's that possible ?

But in all seriousness - yes, the portal could use a redesign if that's possible. Your convincing but INCREDIBLY LONG counterpoint made me realize that this was actually a project that had been planned for a while, not just some random suggestion (whoops!). I honestly thought that the NG dudes and dudettes were just going to leave the audio section untouched - my bad!

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At 6/1/11 01:43 PM, Mich wrote: Guys. Read the first post.

And shut up if it's not about the songs in the tops.

Whoa, shit, my bad.

Uhh, the Pokemon cover thingy is awesome, I guess?

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At 6/1/11 01:43 PM, Mich wrote: Guys. Read the first post.

And shut up if it's not about the songs in the tops.

Oops, totally forgot about that rule. Sorry :C.

At 6/1/11 01:49 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: SUPERSTEPH69, my response will be so large to your comments above that it will span TWO LINES

...

Fix'd.


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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-01 15:21:22 Reply

At 6/1/11 06:50 AM, Mich wrote: New tops!

#1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22780

It's alright, it's a bit generic, but the mixing is better than most of the stuff on NewGrounds.

#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22639

No. Just no. So incredibly boring and unnecessarily repetitive. Plus, "Defqon 1 samples used"? Sounds suspicious.

#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23214

I wouldn't say it's great, but it's more interesting than the usual dance music that makes Top 5...

#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23473

Very boring. I've never been a fan of the music from Final Fantasy anyway.

#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23029

Sounds like SessileNomad. Other than that, it sounds like standard glitch. It's not very interesting melodically, and it doesn't really go anywhere.

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At 6/1/11 03:21 PM, RampantMusik wrote:
At 6/1/11 06:50 AM, Mich wrote: New tops!

#1
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22780
It's alright, it's a bit generic, but the mixing is better than most of the stuff on NewGrounds.
#2
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 22639
No. Just no. So incredibly boring and unnecessarily repetitive. Plus, "Defqon 1 samples used"? Sounds suspicious.
#3
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23214
I wouldn't say it's great, but it's more interesting than the usual dance music that makes Top 5...
#4
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23473
Very boring. I've never been a fan of the music from Final Fantasy anyway.
#5
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/4 23029
Sounds like SessileNomad. Other than that, it sounds like standard glitch. It's not very interesting melodically, and it doesn't really go anywhere.

Thanks, I will agree it is not my best stuff....why do you think using defqon samples is suspicious? They had a comp a few months back to make the new anthem and gave out the sample voice to use :)

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-02 12:06:45 Reply

At 6/1/11 06:56 PM, SUB4RU wrote: Thanks, I will agree it is not my best stuff....why do you think using defqon samples is suspicious? They had a comp a few months back to make the new anthem and gave out the sample voice to use :)

Ah, okay. That makes sense then. There are a lot of tracks on the AP -- and quite a few that make Top 5 -- that use copyrighted material... I hear 'samples' and it makes me nervous :P

But if they released it under a free-to-use license, then that's fine.

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Sounds like SessileNomad. Other than that, it sounds like standard glitch. It's not very interesting melodically, and it doesn't really go anywhere.

disagree, jim has a much grimier downtempo style than i do, honestly i dont think that song sounds remotely anything like something i would come up with

still a cool track though :) garts jimjim

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Response to The weekly tops discussion thread 2011-06-02 13:11:35 Reply

At 6/2/11 12:14 PM, SessileNomad wrote: disagree, jim has a much grimier downtempo style than i do, honestly i dont think that song sounds remotely anything like something i would come up with

Personally, I thought it sounded reminiscent of "Streams Of Red And Orange."