At 6/1/11 12:25 PM, DonCarrera wrote:
No hate intended. And bluh bluh unnecessarily large response.
You call that unnecessarily large?
I'll have to disagree with you that the music in the Top 5 is better than the majority of songs submitted throughout the week in question. Most of the time, they do have some quality in them, true, but we've had instances in the past where the Top 5 was just ridiculously bad (listen to #2 - #5 of the post I linked to), and I'm absolutely certain that there are much more deserving submissions than the average Top 5 song.
Being an audio moderator, I listen to a lot of the submissions posted on NG, and throughout one week of approving/banning new artists, I can really easily find 5 submissions which sound great and are deserving of being part of the weekly tops, yet if, after a few days of their approval, I look back on the underdogs who made these gems, they don't get any recognition even when they submit more songs once they get approved. And if I can find 5 submissions which deserve to be part of the Top 5 from submissions by unapproved Newgrounds artists, most of them being beginners who just started making music, then I'm sure it isn't hard to find Top 5-deserving submissions from artists who posted a handful of songs on NG.
I'm glad you like my music, and I've checked your songs and I really like them too. They're leagues better than most songs in the Top 5, but have you ever got a Top 5? No, because somehow songs that are worse than yours are making it to the Top 5. I'm not saying that the current Top 5 songs are bad, because they're not. I even enjoyed one or two of them. Still, my point is that there are more experienced artists who deserve the recognition more than these artists and yet they don't get it. I can mention names if you want.
Yes, you're right, the Top 5 is currently a measure on how lucky you are to get past the 0-bombs. But think about it - wouldn't it be nicer if the system got redesigned and the Top 5 became a measure of the best songs throughout the week, and not a measure of luck? I agree that the current system is not just influenced by 0-bombs, which is why you don't see many orchestral songs on the Top 5 - simply because orchestral isn't so popular - and a new fixed system won't guarantee more orchestral songs either, but at the least it will guarantee that the best songs of the week (in the eyes of the voters) get showcased in the weekly tops, and that's a good thing.
Look at the Flash Portal. Have you ever seen a flash which got a daily or weekly award which is not deserving of its award? 99% of the time, the flashes which get awards are good, and deserve their exposure, yet the Flash Portal's system is just as automated as the Audio Portal's system.
In fact, to prove that the system needs work, I'll tell you that once I did indeed get a Top 5, but it was on a submission which was posted under the 'Latin' genre (I won't link to it to avoid self-advertising). That genre is pretty obscure and unpopular, so in turn it didn't get 0-bombed much, and I landed second place. The thing is, it wasn't even one of my best submissions. Sure, people liked it, but I had simply better submissions which didn't get a Top 5. And I'm sure you and all other fair users of of the Audio Portal's system prefer a Top 5 which actually showcases deserving submissions, and not submissions which got there by luck.
So yes, the Audio Portal needs a redesign. The admins hinted that the new redesign will include a much better Audio Portal system, and all we can do is hope it comes soon.