Techno/trance kickdrum troubles

[DaveGuy]

I am having trouble making a punchy kick that doesn't sound tacky and distorted. Any tips as on how to do that in FL studio? I need one for my newest song that I will start making in a while from now.
I tried searching for VEC drumpacks on google and you have to PAY for them all. So any tips as on how to make a powerful punchy kick?

[IKONiC]

Send me a PM. I'll help you out.

[B0UNC3]

I'm experimenting with this at the moment. If I get my head out of my ass a document it I guess I could post it here. If you're feeling desperate or greedy then add me on MSN or AIM

[amaterasu]

I've found that VEC packs have good snares, hi hats, and crashes, but they really suck for kick drums. They are all recorded poorly. That could be your first problem.

[amaterasu]

I misread your post. If you are using samples, the trick is to find 2-3 seperate kick samples, and eq them together so you get the low from one, a punchy mid from another, and a click sound from the third. With synthesizers, you can mix a sine or square with a really short decay for that initial pop transient, with another low sine wave for the bassy sound that trails afterwards.

[B0UNC3]

At 11/28/09 12:35 PM, amaterasu wrote: I misread your post. If you are using samples, the trick is to find 2-3 seperate kick samples, and eq them together so you get the low from one, a punchy mid from another, and a click sound from the third. With synthesizers, you can mix a sine or square with a really short decay for that initial pop transient, with another low sine wave for the bassy sound that trails afterwards.

Excellent suggestion right there. I find myself combining the 2 techniques more often than not.

Btw, last I heard is that vec kicks sound like shit because they are ripped.

[DaveGuy]

At 11/28/09 01:17 PM, B0UNC3 wrote:

At 11/28/09 12:35 PM, amaterasu wrote: I misread your post. If you are using samples, the trick is to find 2-3 seperate kick samples, and eq them together so you get the low from one, a punchy mid from another, and a click sound from the third. With synthesizers, you can mix a sine or square with a really short decay for that initial pop transient, with another low sine wave for the bassy sound that trails afterwards.

Excellent suggestion right there. I find myself combining the 2 techniques more often than not.

Btw, last I heard is that vec kicks sound like shit because they are ripped.

okay so what I got here is.... combine 3 seperate kicks and eq them accordingly and don't use VEC's?That's all the info I got from all of you so far.

I also find that using the 3x0sc plugin helps alot too.

[amaterasu]

At 11/28/09 05:26 PM, DaveGuy wrote: okay so what I got here is.... combine 3 seperate kicks and eq them accordingly and don't use VEC's?That's all the info I got from all of you so far.

I also find that using the 3x0sc plugin helps alot too.

The thing is, everybody does their kicks differently, sometimes that is what defines your style. We gave you the basics idea.

[DaveGuy]

what about basslines? powerful basslines anyone?

[durn]

check out this image here, I use it as a handy rough guide for eq'ing my instruments and other elements.

a trick I use to make sure my bass slams through is to use the lowpass cut on the equalizers (I use reason) of my kickdrums. the kick still pound, but the deeper frequencies are left wide open for the sub bass notes. :)