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Gay marrige is an ABOMINATION UNTO GOD i don't know about you but i don't want to tick God off.I think gay people should get married and get AIDS so they all die and don't infect me.or put them all on a island so they can't reproduce.Lesbians on one island Gays on another.In about 70 years there will be no gay people end of story.Personnaly i think that they should ban gay marrige.

I know the hot rumor in Jersey is that Corzine will ram through Gay Marriage and Medical Marijuana before his term is over here and it'll all just be legal by the time the next governor comes in. It'll be interesting to see if anything comes of it. It would be perhaps the only time I'd have to admit Corzine did something right.

At 12/4/09 01:34 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I know the hot rumor in Jersey is that Corzine will ram through Gay Marriage and Medical Marijuana before his term is over here and it'll all just be legal by the time the next governor comes in. It'll be interesting to see if anything comes of it. It would be perhaps the only time I'd have to admit Corzine did something right.

I hope you are right, but by this point Ive become so jaded that I just expect the worst and when something good happens I can be pleasantly surprised rather that sick and upset.

At 12/4/09 06:03 AM, Dekagaru wrote: I hope you are right, but by this point Ive become so jaded that I just expect the worst and when something good happens I can be pleasantly surprised rather that sick and upset.

I think it's in the State Senate right now (which for those not in the know, that's like the regular senate in congress, if a bill starts there and passed, or has moved there and passes, it goes right to the governor's desk) and Corzine has vowed to sign any such legislation that comes across his desk. But if it doesn't, it's not passing because Governor Elect Chris Christie has vowed to veto it.

At 12/3/09 05:44 PM, venom1942 wrote: Gay marrige is an ABOMINATION UNTO GOD i don't know about you but i don't want to tick God off.I think gay people should get married and get AIDS so they all die and don't infect me.or put them all on a island so they can't reproduce.Lesbians on one island Gays on another.In about 70 years there will be no gay people end of story.Personnaly i think that they should ban gay marrige.

Yah sure, just like masturbating (Leviticus 15:1-17), treating women equally (Leviticus 12), a woman's period (Leviticus 15:19-33), creativity (Genesis 8:21). Also racism is fine (Genesis 9:25).

Is it that hard to comprehend that not everyone worships your God? Thats the whole point of America, to have Religion has no say in the government when its not trying to discriminate and outlaw a religion. But hey, maybe if you don't allow Gay Marriage the Spaghetti Monster will kill you when the end times have come, and everyone realize the truth is DA SPAGHETTI MONSTER.

If the Homosexuals want to get married and do whatever it is they do behind closed and locked doors that's not for said state or federal government to dictate what two consenting Adults can and cannot do behind closed and locked doors that's the one thing no government can do and any government that does is on par with Nazi Germany that's what they did to Homosexuals, Gypsies, People with conditions, and Jews in the Holocaust to accumulate 12 million people and anyone who denies or defends the holocaust is worse than the ones that did it.

It would seem these politicians working to revoke the rights of Gay people are forgetting that what they stand for is a constitution for which the purpose is to GIVE rights not take them away!

We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their creator certain unalienable rights among these are Life, Liberty, The Pursuit of Happiness.

That's what America was made on. it's in the Declaration of Independence for Christ's sake. And to anyone who claims the dictionary defines marriage as "between a man and a woman" you are wrong.

mar.riage Noun 1: the state of being united to another person as a contractual relationship according to law or custom 2: a wedding ceremony and attendant festivities 3: A close union <a ~ of light and shadow>

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary

There's one thing a legislature cannot take away: A people's right to be miserable just like every other hetero couple out there. Sure you can say you're happily married now after 2-3 years but once you get on up to 20-30+ years you're miserable everyone is after being joined to the same person after that long a time. Talking about "We must preserve the sanctity of marriage" That's bullshit. There is absolutely nothing worse than sanctimony and if you want to preserve any decency in marriage ban Reality TV shows that's what's wrong "Married by America" "Who wants to marry a Multi-Billionaire" "The Bachelor" and let us not forget the cream of the crop "Who wants to marry a Chainsaw Maniac"

I know it won't happen, but can someone give a justification for state-recognised marriages at all??

At 12/5/09 07:59 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: I know it won't happen, but can someone give a justification for state-recognised marriages at all??

Property ownership in long term relationships and ensuing divorces or deaths.

Also, marriage is a pretty ingrained institution. I think it would be weird for there not to be some legal representation somewhere for the whole thing. It would be like the government not having the concept of Guardians for minors.

At 12/3/09 05:44 PM, venom1942 wrote: Gay marrige is an ABOMINATION UNTO GOD i don't know about you but i don't want to tick God off.I think gay people should get married and get AIDS so they all die and don't infect me.or put them all on a island so they can't reproduce.Lesbians on one island Gays on another.In about 70 years there will be no gay people end of story.Personnaly i think that they should ban gay marrige.

Mm-hm...just like interracial marriage. And Gentiles getting married to Jews. And lowering the voting age from 21 to 18. And civil rights. And women getting the right to vote. And The Emancipation Proclamation. And men of all races getting the right to vote. And men who did not pay taxes or own property getting the right to vote. The same exact argument has been made against all of the above. Justification for xenophobia under the guise of religion. Is there anything worse?

At 12/5/09 07:59 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: I know it won't happen, but can someone give a justification for state-recognised marriages at all??

Agreed. Makes more sense to give those rights and privileges that married couples get instead to Adults with children.

At 11/27/09 07:18 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: I never hired the US government. I never signed any document stating that the people who call themselfs 'the united states of america' would provide my protection, law, utilities, etc.

And don't tell me about the social contract, it's a sad excuse for the love-it-or-leave-it-argument.

Perhaps not you personally, but they were hired at one point in the past, and you were born into it. Reality is the ultimate free market. If a system of small governments where people could come and go at will were plausible in real life, it would exist. Unfortunately, we see governments getting pushy and wanting to eat up the other ones, so you end up with one at the equilibrium size that covers the US.

If all governments were privately hired, don't you think other governments with the power and incentive to do so would try to eliminate the ones that they could? If that sort of system could really be stable, then cults would just form their own countries and we would never see events like the Waco siege.

At 12/5/09 06:52 AM, Iron-Claw wrote: There's one thing a legislature cannot take away: A people's right to be miserable just like every other hetero couple out there. Sure you can say you're happily married now after 2-3 years but once you get on up to 20-30+ years you're miserable everyone is after being joined to the same person after that long a time. Talking about "We must preserve the sanctity of marriage" That's bullshit. There is absolutely nothing worse than sanctimony and if you want to preserve any decency in marriage ban Reality TV shows that's what's wrong "Married by America" "Who wants to marry a Multi-Billionaire" "The Bachelor" and let us not forget the cream of the crop "Who wants to marry a Chainsaw Maniac"

Reminds me of a Chris Rock bit about marriage. Probably NSFW, lots of expletives.

Warforger does raise a good idea about giving benefits to married couples to kids. It would help with the single-parent families.

At 12/16/09 12:13 PM, Ericho wrote: I think the notion is that he thinks it should be up to the states to determine whether or not gay marriage should be legal. While I agree that is important, I would have to say I believe that we should all just legalize gay marriage, as I find no reason not to.

I'm going to take an older page out of history, but when you leave an issue to "popular sovereignty" you are just *begging* for situations like the Burning of Kansas to happen again. The advocation of the right of the state to mind it's own affairs is what caused the radical tensions between free states and slave states in the 19th century. Hasn't anyone learned from that?

At 12/3/09 05:44 PM, venom1942 wrote: Gay marrige is an ABOMINATION UNTO GOD i don't know about you but i don't want to tick God off.I think gay people should get married and get AIDS so they all die and don't infect me.or put them all on a island so they can't reproduce.Lesbians on one island Gays on another.In about 70 years there will be no gay people end of story.Personnaly i think that they should ban gay marrige.

*Sigh* Back to main , Just go..........

And your bible also tells you that you can own a slave of a foreign nation and sell your daughter into slavery , And for fucks sake dont even think about masturbating

At 12/16/09 12:13 PM, Ericho wrote: I have heard that Barrack Obama is against gay marriage, yet more states have legalized it than any other during his adminstration. I think the notion is that he thinks it should be up to the states to determine whether or not gay marriage should be legal. While I agree that is important, I would have to say I believe that we should all just legalize gay marriage, as I find no reason not to.

Not really, he supported the UN Bill to make Gay Marriage legal worldwide

At 12/16/09 12:45 PM, ScytheCutter wrote: I'm going to take an older page out of history, but when you leave an issue to "popular sovereignty" you are just *begging* for situations like the Burning of Kansas to happen again. The advocation of the right of the state to mind it's own affairs is what caused the radical tensions between free states and slave states in the 19th century. Hasn't anyone learned from that?

Thats entirely different, that was when people where moving into territories which where approaching statehood, right now there is nothing like that besides Puerto Rico, which hardly anyone's settling in anyway.

At 12/16/09 10:45 PM, freddorfman wrote: *Sigh* Back to main , Just go..........

And your bible also tells you that you can own a slave of a foreign nation and sell your daughter into slavery , And for fucks sake dont even think about masturbating

Its actually your just unclean, just do the clean yourself process and your fine.

At 12/16/09 11:01 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 12/16/09 12:13 PM, Ericho wrote:

At 12/16/09 12:45 PM, ScytheCutter wrote: I'm going to take an older page out of history, but when you leave an issue to "popular sovereignty" you are just *begging* for situations like the Burning of Kansas to happen again. The advocation of the right of the state to mind it's own affairs is what caused the radical tensions between free states and slave states in the 19th century. Hasn't anyone learned from that?

Thats entirely different, that was when people where moving into territories which where approaching statehood, right now there is nothing like that besides Puerto Rico, which hardly anyone's settling in anyway.

I realize, but I was just trying to draw a parallel between what happened then when the issue of slavery was left to a referendum, it being such a hot topic in congress, and how hot of a topic same-sex marriage is, and the fact it's being left to referendum.

At 12/16/09 10:00 AM, wrathofmannix wrote:

At 12/5/09 06:52 AM, Iron-Claw wrote: There's one thing a legislature cannot take away: A people's right to be miserable just like every other hetero couple out there. Sure you can say you're happily married now after 2-3 years but once you get on up to 20-30+ years you're miserable everyone is after being joined to the same person after that long a time. Talking about "We must preserve the sanctity of marriage" That's bullshit. There is absolutely nothing worse than sanctimony and if you want to preserve any decency in marriage ban Reality TV shows that's what's wrong "Married by America" "Who wants to marry a Multi-Billionaire" "The Bachelor" and let us not forget the cream of the crop "Who wants to marry a Chainsaw Maniac"

Reminds me of a Chris Rock bit about marriage. Probably NSFW, lots of expletives.

Well, I'm not gonna annotate who stole who's idea for a joke let's just say Chris Rock and I are on the same page. ;)

The other thing was that Any Man who talks about homosexuality as an "Abomination unto God" or "An affront to nature" is a hypocrite because all men get off on the whole two women going at it. We all love it. We love seeing two women doing just about anything together. Kissing, fighting, fucking, pillow fighting, rearranging sock drawers, we love it. We ALL love it, we just do, shut the hell up.

The other is "Homosexuals can't reproduce" sure they can. Lesbians can have artificial insemination and Gay men can be sperm donors, at least that's how it ought to be. So many have been turned down not gonna use it anyway, may as well put it to good use. And we're not in danger of extinction if that's what they're implying

At 12/5/09 07:59 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: I know it won't happen, but can someone give a justification for state-recognised marriages at all??

Sure. Laws are necessary obligations for civil society and external incentives to those obligations. The institution of monogamy is necessary for a civil society and the state is able to incentivize it.

It should be for anyone to choose, Gay marriage should be legal it common sense. Just because you don't likes gay or hate being around them doesn't mean it should be illegal.

Goddammit, I thought the Republicans were out of office already. And for the record, homosexuals aren't the first group of people to be marginalized by the law. Hell, oppressing minorities isn't just cultural (e.g. Red Scare of the 1950's), it's a legal tradition to boot (see: Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798).

The simple fact is there really are no legitimate non-secular reasons to ban gay marriage. Saying "omfg gays R allgrossandstickyfkgasjgasggyughD:" is not a reason. And religious people can quote their Bible all they would care to, but their precious book should have no place in the government. To say gay marriage is unequal to straight marriage, or even the gays themselves are second-class citizens, is ridiculous. You can be against gay marriage and wah-wah they're going to Hell, but to vote that they can't marry is pushing your religion onto every citizen of that state and forcing them to follow your God's guidelines.

And that just makes you a jackass.

At 1/17/10 07:26 PM, TokingFire wrote: Goddammit, I thought the Republicans were out of office already.

Let's be fair, it's not just Republicans willing to vote no here. Democrats are religious too, Democrats have to appeal to religious and more conservative leaning bits of their constituency too. Jersey is HEAVILY Democratic, we have a very powerful democratic machine and they still didn't vote for it. To the point that there were senators trying to play it safe and not vote for it unless the vote on it was close. They have a majority in both houses and it failed, so it's not just a "only Republicans will vote against this" Jersey proved Democrats can and will also in some cases. I agree to me it's an issue like ending segregation, it's enough of a civil rights issue it should just be enacted on a federal level and everyone who doesn't like it should shut the hell up about it because there is no rational argument against it I've ever heard. But the thing of it is politicians by their nature are a gutless bunch.

At 1/18/10 11:07 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

Let's be fair, it's not just Republicans willing to vote no here. Democrats are religious too, Democrats have to appeal to religious and more conservative leaning bits of their constituency too.

Remember: if it weren't for Jimmy Carter, Bush, Jr. would have been a Democrat.....

Well, I just think that is the problem with democracy, letting people choose for useless thing, i'm not homofobic, but I do belive that homosexualism is a disease, no offence to anyone meant, I really thin that gay marriage should be prohibited, and people like that treated.

I personally don't take that as a point for discriminaition, I mean, I don't offend gay people just because of that, as some may think, I just have a point that disagrees most people.

At 1/19/10 02:57 AM, Revoltie wrote: but I do belive that homosexualism is a disease, no offence to anyone meant, I really thin that gay marriage should be prohibited, and people like that treated.

Wtf.

I say just get it over with and make it leagle across the country, it's going to happen anyways.

At 1/19/10 04:04 PM, LightParadox wrote: Wtf.

Uh yeah, do you have anything to back that up other then a belief guy? Because if it's just a belief based on no evidence, you ARE in fact homophobic and prejudice.

At 1/19/10 05:46 PM, LordJaric wrote: I say just get it over with and make it leagle across the country, it's going to happen anyways.

It'd be quicker if we just told the Government not to issue marriage licenses to gay or straight people.

Or at the very least, call them something else and allow people to voluntarily decide to refer to themselves as married.

Nope, i'm not homophobic, I don't hate homosexuals. But most of t hem are irritating people, but I have really no problem with the homos, but I think it is a disease, and no, i'm not trying to offend no one in any ways.

It is a disease and should be treated as so.