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Since the quotes are getting too big, I'll just tackle the points without quotations, responses have been numbered:

1. Homosexuals =/= criminals, I don't even understand why you could rationally hate them.
What possible reasons could you possibly have to hate the average hard-working homosexual who gets home to his partner of equal sex and his adopted children who he treats with respect? They don't cause any harm, neither do they want to make everyone gay. All they want is to live their life like they want.

2. You haven't even read the links you gave, first one refutes many of the "historical facts" and the second one is hosted on a Christian website, therefore subjective.

3. My point was that all these books are all slightly edited to found a new religion, which all have 1 fundamental thing in common, the belief in a higher being. And by copying these events from former religious books, you immediately had some evidence, but what you really have to think about, is the original source trustworthy, and how come these events don't happen nowadays? Or could it be, that it was just fiction. Couldn't it be that it was first designed as a way to gain power and money, by making people comply to a set of rules and making yourself the spiritual leader.

4. Covered above.

5.1. I am doubting the fact that Jesus ever existed, therefore whether or not he died for our sins, as you claim, it has no real addition to the debate, whether or not there's a God. And again, believing in God is rewarded by Heaven as the Bible claims. And spreading it will grant everyone you know Heaven, whether or not it exists never gets any doubt.
5.2. You use the stupidity argument, which always gets used to try and take criticism away. I do know what the bible is, but what I'm doing is refuting the concept of a God, which has no proof for it and doesn't give any signs of existence. And most of the so-called evidence you've given me is just pseudo science, made for only 1 specific goal, to make it seem like there is a God.

6. Crazy doesn't always have to mean that you act like a lunatic, he could've been a narcissist or have a minor defect in his brain. The Bible claims that he revived, but why did he leave Earth after that? Showing that he was revived by God would've been major evidence to convert every last inhabitant of this world to Christianity, yet he apparently choose to only show himself to a select few. And besides that, if he would've died for our sins, why isn't there a second son of God, who does the same in these times, since I heard many christians complain about the fact that there are sinners all around them? And why should we pray to him, if he doesn't show any signs, does he want his followers to blindly follow him, uncertain of whether he exists or not? Wouldn't that be a sign of stupidity, since it wouldn't require a person to fabricate his own opinions and view on the existence of God, with the brains which God supposedly gave them.

7. Again, the Bible itself is no proof of the existence of God, since there aren't external sources supporting these claims on miracles. And where did I state I hate the Bible? And near-death experiences proof nothing, because at the moment you die loads of DMT's get released which causes a person to hallucinate(lack of oxygen and other reasons could be behind this as well), and if a religious person would get in one of these accidents it's natural for them to hallucinate about God and the after-life, since their entire life was based around religion. Most people see different things or nothing at all.

7. I've already addressed a part of this, but I'd like to add that all of these writers had 1 thing in common, they already believed in God before writing those documents. Most religious books are based on others, just like the Bible is based on the Old Testament and others, which were Jewish documents. So it's just normal that these examples simply get added to those religious books as well.

8. Already covered in 6. And besides Charles Manson has many followers, but it's not like he's completely normal and mentally healthy.

9. It was just an example, I already knew your response, all I was saying is that God doesn't do anything even if you pray to him, so praying or not praying, it makes no difference. Many, many people die, despite of praying to God, and the few who DO survive, were just lucky, therefore making divine intervention very unprovable and non-existent.

10. The hallucinations have already been addressed, and I've given some reasons why they depict religious situations with certain people.
More and more do lose their faith in religion, but is it really a bad thing, couldn't this mean that more and more people are having questions about their religion that aren't being answered? In history people just accepted Christianity as their faith, because everyone they knew was a Christian, and since the past century the amount of theists have reduced, since the development of better communication systems gave room to various voices within this society, making people reflect on their own religion and lifestyle, and overall creating their own opinions and choices when it comes to religion.
And if there was really a God, wouldn't he do something about it, such as creating a miracle or what not? Yet, it seems that he is non-existent, only fed by the inactivity from supposedly existing higher powers.
And seriously, you did not just wish me to be almost killed. that's just wrong. But I'm sure that those visions can just be explained by biological reasons.

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At 11/20/09 05:40 PM, gamekillereater wrote: a lot of things

There really is nothing more to say on this matter. If you seriously wish to continue believing in that which is less likely to be true than that which is true then there really isn't anything I can do for you. I just hope you cease this denial/rebellion deal of yours and pull your head outta your ass before its too late.

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Ironic that you come to Newgrounds with this problem whilst your username is TheUNWISEPoet

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it's alright to have your own views, but don't force it on others, and disagreeing with them is no excuse to disrespect and outright hate them.

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Ripping was too far. I respect other religions but I get pissed if you force shit on me.

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At 11/20/09 09:34 PM, studmuffin7 wrote:

At 11/20/09 05:40 PM, gamekillereater wrote: a lot of things

There really is nothing more to say on this matter. If you seriously wish to continue believing in that which is less likely to be true than that which is true then there really isn't anything I can do for you. I just hope you cease this denial/rebellion deal of yours and pull your head outta your ass before its too late.

I've won, you simply gave up, knowing that you'd never win.
It's just clear that you couldn't counter many of the arguments I've given.
And besides that, the things you hold for the truth may not necessarily BE THE TRUTH.
What I like to add on top of that, is that you think way too black and white, good or bad, whilst in reality there is an ocean of grey in between.