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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 06:16 PM Reply

TOM!!! why the fuck did u take the Leave a message thing off the front page! That sucks! oh yeah i give Wade and this whole marrage thingy 2 weeks... he will have hit her by then and be in jail.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 06:32 PM Reply

Hey, another idea, instead of just selling t-shirts, it'd be cool to sell "The Best of Newgrounds" or "Newgrounds: Greatest Hits Vol. I" video. THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY AWESOME! And you could sell a NG Games CD. There's another source of revenue...

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 07:46 PM Reply

Congrats Wade! And nice opinion there, Tom! BTW, when does my thing go up on the front page? :P

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 08:04 PM Reply

Hmmm, I have an idea and a few contacts within two or three large companies. Don't get any hopes up, though. I'll see what I can do about finding a good sponsor.

-Janus, the guy who knows everything

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 08:09 PM Reply

hey thats really good for wade.i hope his marriage lasts longer than 5 years

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 08:25 PM Reply

damn, man. i didn't realize that things were so hard. for a site as popular though non-mainstream as newgrounds, i thought it would be much easier to get decent advertisement. anyhow, i will continue to support newgrounds in anyway i can and if that comes down to paying a couple bucks a month, so be it. this site is great and i'm a firm believer in it.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 09:37 PM Reply

man, what are you talking about, i was just surfing NG and its EVEN WORSE NOW, its like every 30 secs some Bonzi shit pops up. its pissing me off, along with other NG fans i bet. so get rid of them, or you wont be having as meny fans as before.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 09:41 PM Reply

Congratz to Wade . . . now the whip is ever stronger. Congratz to Tom as well for taking action against the annoying pop-up stuff. Something, I feel, that is annoying as well are people who resubmit movies who constantly voted off. Not to name any names but Sideshow_Mel does it all the time with his "*Name of some kiddy show* Dies" series. I think something needs to be done to stop people like that from taking up valuable space, like ban or make sure he can't resubmit the same thing. If only it were that easy to do to stupid people in the real world . . .

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 09:50 PM Reply

The popups must die!
And I didnt read the whole thing but tv ads would probably make newgrounds SLOWER?

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 10:08 PM Reply

Newgrounds good...ads out the ass baaaad.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 10:33 PM Reply

All right I will congradulate wade woohoo. Why man Why? Anyways Tom try to open up a newgrounds shop u know sell games or whatever. If u do I guarentee at least a hundred dollars of profit from me. Also if u could. Get a store to sponsor u not tv. Get a store like Spencers they love this stuff. I have a hook up maybe I could get them to consider sponsoring u if u sell some of ur stuff anyways good luck.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 10:42 PM Reply

Congurlation wade on your marriage and the pops up are not that bad now i think

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 11:13 PM Reply

I agree, get rid of the ads but I also think there has got to be someone out there who would sponsor newgrounds.

Not that it's on topic but SOBE was actually bought by Pepsi and gatorade will also be pepsi product soon. Though SOBE still does their own shit(advertising etc...) pepsi just distributes them and owns the stock. either way, I'm still a slave worker for pepsi and/or SOBE. Someone get me out.....!!!!!! bleh

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 6th, 2001 @ 11:48 PM Reply

I just wanna say congrats to Wade. I also wanna say thanks to Tom. Newgrounds is the greatest site on the net. You fight for us. Not for the money. If you wanted money you could have may Newgrounds pay to post/view a long time ago. I just think it's really cool that you guys have let us view free content and have a place to post our shit (good and bad). If I had a company (or a website for that matter) I would definetly sponsor Newgrounds. As commercial design and art student I can't see why sponsors aren't jumping on this site for ads. I spend about 2 hours on average at Newgrounds daily. My girlfriend (who nickname is Caty Catholic) spends hours on Newgrounds too. Anyway thanks for not selling out.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 12:06 AM Reply

How hard have you tried to entice companies to sponsor Newgrounds? If I were a 30+ year old running an ad campaign for my company here's a few reasons why I wouldn't choose Newgrounds.

1. I couldn't find info about advertising on Newgrounds, such as how many unique visitors you get and the amount of time they spend on here. You need to create a seperate "corporate" page that shows Newgrounds is a serious business and it's not just about killing celebrities.

2. Newgrounds looks too dark and offensive, something that a teenager created and not a real "business" run by professionals. Granted, Newgrounds isn't suppose to be all happy and positive, but you've got to admit it doesn't look professionally done, polished if you will. You've got to protect their image.

Basically Newgounds has to look more like a business than one guys hobby. Just imagine a marketing director coming to Newgrounds and seeing on the front page a post about Dead Babies and how the creator destroyed a little kids sand castle and then broke her arm. Gee, sounds like a site I want to sponsor.

I'm not saying Newgrounds has to become more family like, but in order to entice big money you've got to appear that way. Perhaps the homepage could be toned down a bit and include a page containing info regarding how successful Newgrounds is, how the money for one commerical could be spent here for a whole month, etc. There isn't one bit of information on Newgrounds that makes me want to sponsor it. If there is it isn't easy to locate.

By the way, I'm still waiting for the updated Pico pics.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 12:27 AM Reply

At 8/6/01 06:32 PM, Masaru wrote: Hey, another idea, instead of just selling t-shirts, it'd be cool to sell "The Best of Newgrounds" or "Newgrounds: Greatest Hits Vol. I" video. THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY AWESOME! And you could sell a NG Games CD. There's another source of revenue...

I know all the problems associated with doing something like this but it really is a good idea. The artists here seem pretty cool about their content. Bottom Line; If you guys can make it happen I'll buy it. Come out with a new CD every month or 2 with different content on it than the last one. Or have themes like "Newgrounds X voted" for deleted movies that we can't see here anymore. Maybe even put some exclusive (not viewable on the Net) content on them to sweeten the deal. That would be cool.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 12:28 AM Reply

Hey Wade Congrats On Ur Happy Marrage , And Hope Yas Have a HoneyMoon Heheh Im Evil Well Tom And Wade Keep Making Newgrounds Kick Ass.

A Pop Up Add Keeps Annoying Me..

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 12:53 AM Reply

congrads Wade!!

oh thank you for not haveing the pop-up adds wile you play games it pissed me off alot.. I've Lost alot of games.... maby you can get rid of the ones that pop-up wile im typeing the 3rd one just poped-up...arrggg...

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 01:01 AM Reply

K tom, i have some ideas for sponsors but who knows if they would do it, first off, i'd see companies like mad magazine, and stuff. Spencer's Gifts was also a good suggestion from someone. I think they're owned be warner brothers though. Playboy and comedy central are good ideas. I also think new t-shirts would sell big. A shirt with pico or other more popular characters. An assassin/pico team up shot would be sweet! lol

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 01:08 AM Reply

Someone DOES sponsor you... in a way. Gameshark.com is having contest to win a PS2, etc. In the WEEK IN REVIEW section, you have to click the right button on the Flash news to be entered in the contest. To my suprise, NEWGROUNDS was actually one of the pop-ups for it. It lead to a portal submission (my guess, it's someone's movie, and it didn't give the details of the person, voting, etc on it like usually it does.) But, people do know about you. Just think... big companies like Interact (gameshark) know.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 01:25 AM Reply

At 8/6/01 06:32 PM, Masaru wrote: Hey, another idea, instead of just selling t-shirts, it'd be cool to sell "The Best of Newgrounds" or "Newgrounds: Greatest Hits Vol. I" video. THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY AWESOME! And you could sell a NG Games CD. There's another source of revenue...

That's actually an excellent idea. I'm with you

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 02:27 AM Reply

At 8/6/01 09:37 PM, unrealrapist wrote: man, what are you talking about, i was just surfing NG and its EVEN WORSE NOW, its like every 30 secs some Bonzi shit pops up. its pissing me off, along with other NG fans i bet. so get rid of them, or you wont be having as meny fans as before.

I would like to say GET RID OF THE POP UPS, they come up all the time and it's never ending, it's ridiculous, you really aren't thinking of people who come to the website to watch flash movies, they get interrupted throughout it. No one is winning through this. And regards to what unrealrapist wrote, I agree, you won't have many fans left if this continues.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 04:06 AM Reply

I agree with Rezin, big companies aren't going to take Newgrounds seriously. You should create a whole new site focussing on the corporate side of NG. It would be like NG's alter-ego. Personally, the ads didn't bother me that much.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 05:51 AM Reply

Amen tom. These fuckin ads are everywhere. im not downin on newgrounds, im downin on those fuckin ads... fuck, there goes one now. Your right about that corporate sponsorship idea. damn ads!

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 06:22 AM Reply

At 8/6/01 10:52 AM, TomFulp wrote:

We have disabled the auto-refreshing ads, so you will no longer get pop-ups while playing games.

They are still Auto-refreshing on the front page, in the portal when you view a movie & when you write posts.

I got an auto-refreshing ad 4 times just writing this reply & that was without clicking anything or refreshing.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 06:51 AM Reply

At 8/6/01 10:52 AM, TomFulp wrote: A lot.

Wade, i know it must be kinda weird to have people you don't really know congratulating you on your marriage, but congratulations nonetheless.

Onto the whole advertising deal, If having the popups means keeping Newgrounds online, then bring them on. I like the train of thinking presented by Masaru, and Cthulhu5, But I'm going all out. This next idea might seem completely nuts, but take the possibilities into consideration here. You guys make a Newgrounds full length motion picture. It may be hard work, but think of the benefits in the end. It is unlikely to be a flop, as it would sell millions of tickets worldwide due to the huge fanbase newgrounds has, and it would appeal to everyone with the right sense of humor, so not only will it make a lot of money in the box office if it is successful, but it will draw a LOT of attention to Newgrounds by potential new major sponsors. There would be a downside though. It would draw a lot of attention by others aswell, you would probably have to double your bandwidth to compensate for the new visitors, and it would spark hundreds of more debates about the 'media causing violence and the downfall of society' crap. If it were successful though, it wouldnt be much of a worry because you'd have enough money to deal with it. It might be completely nuts.. but the possibility is there.

And all you people saying that Newgrounds will be losing fans if the popups aren't taken off, you shouldn't consider yourselves fans in the first place. True fans should put up with a lot more than some popup's before they give up.

I've had my say now, so i'll shut up.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 07:26 AM Reply

At 8/6/01 10:52 AM, TomFulp wrote: Everyone congratulate Wade, he is now a married man! We are all in major flux right now, with Wade getting married and both Ross and I moving to different places. Expect things to really pick up in about two weeks, when we will be around much more than we have been for the past month. I will probably need a few days to go through all the emails complaining about the pop-up ads, though.

We have disabled the auto-refreshing ads, so you will no longer get pop-ups while playing games. The ads will still refresh whenever you click a link, so you can still expect a lot of pop-ups. We don't control this aspect of the ad rotation, but are looking into it. I'm sure it is due to the fact that ads aren't paying well and we need to make up for it with quantity, but I'm sick of it and it has to stop.

Having a VISA pop-up ad every time you go to a new page is not going to sell any more Visa cards, and I'm sure it is paying on a CPA basis (meaning we don't even get paid unless YOU sign up). This idea that "running the ad 1000 times per visitor will generate more revenue" is bullshit and is the reason why the web has failed as a marketing platform.

Yes everyone, we are all fucked and the internet is a big shithole.

I will try to get the pop-ups cut back today, so you won't have to swim through them to use the site. In the meantime, try to support us some by supporting our stupid sponsors! Remember that giant Casino ad that was on the frontpage for a few weeks? They had a really complicated three-step process that had to be completed for us to get our comission. You had to not only sign up and validate your account, but you ALSO had to desposit $50 in your Casino account. So even if we sent them 1000s of registered users, it still hinged upon that $50. Guess what? It generated ZERO "complete" sign-ups . Nada, zip. We didn't get a dime for having that obnoxious ad plastered on the frontpage for all that time. Can you understand why I am in such a pissy mood?

This is so fucking lame... Studies are proving that banner ads actually do increase brand awareness, and we are still getting ass-raped every which way. Why can't a decent company step forward and sponsor Newgrounds? For the cost of one television commercial per month we could ditch all the other advertisers and keep the site running fine. Is anyone willing to step up and do that? Does anyone out there work for "cool" companies, like KMX or RED BULL energy drinks? SOBE Beverages was interested in a sponsorship a while back, but they were bought by COKE and suddenly that wasn't a good idea for them. Well guess what, COKE better learn where its market is - it is right here on the web!

Other studies are proving that TV use is declining in exchange for internet use. Don't companies see any value in that? The average user spends over 20 minutes on Newgrounds, and we get over 100,000 users every day. We are more popular than some TV shows, but we are still getting shit on.

Here is a homework assignmnent. If you work for a company that has ANY INTEREST AT ALL in the Gen-Y / Gen-X market, talk to your friends in the marketing department about Newgrounds. Tell them how for just a small piece of their advertising budget, they could be the sole sponsor of this site. Convince them, because they have their heads up their asses and they aren't listening! Newgrounds is a lifestyle for some people - you can't say that about FRIENDS and the other crap they are putting on TV! Ok, maybe Simpsons, but that's it!

I guess that's the end of this rant.

K thanx for getting rid of those dumbass ad's.Always did give me a problem whenever i played a game.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 07:47 AM Reply

Sup Tom? I'd like to add something to this list. You must have some kind of refresh thing going on b/c everytime i go to this site it refreshes and complete makes my screen go blank. EVEN NOW IT IS! And i'm getting a lil pist at it. I know this won't happen to most people because they aren't on webtv. Well i am an webtv is a bitch! so please don't refresh so many fucking times. And no i'm not at the cams cuz i'd just be retarded then. -dK

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 10:31 AM Reply

Thats Good, but i am kinda sick of getting that breast enlargment pop-up. I really don't need any bigger tits. Also. can you fix that new music..., maybe you can have a contest for the new- newgrounds main page music. the one you have on now is just as annoying as any pop-up ad.

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Response to Pop-Ups, etc. Aug. 7th, 2001 @ 10:57 AM Reply

Newgrounds is a lifestyle for some people - you can't say that about FRIENDS and the other crap they are putting on TV! Ok, maybe Simpsons, but that's it!

yO dam right Mr TOM.....I spend whole evenings on Newgrounds, this site Is the most impressive entertaining thing I've ever seen on the web.
I spend more time on your site than I do watching TV...It makes me sick sometimes that your site Is such a great idea, coz I wish I'd thought of It.

Davie Davis
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