What's the point?(pointless codes)

[TCD2008]

I can't understand why games like GTA put cheats in their games if they always punish you for using them?

Sure if you complete the game 100% already you can use them but if you did that then what you need them for?

maybe next ALLOW use to use a code EVEN IF ONLY ONCE, without having to worry about making sure not to save?

How about instead, DON'T PUT THEM THERE in the first place (derrrrrrrrrrrr)

what's your opinion of this practice? Discuss.

[Frank-The-Hedgehog]

So what? You think you deserve the trophies/achievements even if you cheat? Make a new save and have some fun if you must, the cheats are there for FUN, not those little bragging rights.

[TCD2008]

At 11/11/09 07:38 AM, Frank-The-Hedgehog wrote: So what? You think you deserve the trophies/achievements even if you cheat? Make a new save and have some fun if you must, the cheats are there for FUN, not those little bragging rights.

How do money codes make a game more fun?

All cars are black? (I can see pink as funny but black?)

Since this is not just about GTA: NSMBWII'S super guide?
what about this is by far the worst offender because It says it there to help but if you save your screwed.

[explodingbunnies]

At 11/11/09 06:53 AM, TCD2008 wrote: RARARAARARA BARARARA BLOOOOOOOSH

Stop fucking complaining.

[Balazeal]

At 11/11/09 06:53 AM, TCD2008 wrote: I can't understand why games like GTA put cheats in their games if they always punish you for using them?

It's for fun, and it's not punishment, it's simply not rewarding you for not earning something.

[SoulMaster71]

At 11/11/09 07:59 AM, TCD2008 wrote: NSMBWII'S super guide?
what about this is by far the worst offender because It says it there to help but if you save your screwed.

Miyamoto-sama innovates gaming, allows Nintendo to survive and even thrive again few years by bringing in a previously-untapped market of potential customers. He now hears the gamers complaining about these new "casuals", about how they're not learning anything about gaming, they're just fucking around and taking a title they do not deserve. He responds with a "Super Guide" system that has the "hardcore" gamers, who play for achievements and bragging rights rather than fun, screaming "BUT THEY NEED TO LEARN IT ON THEIR OWN! THIS IS OUR PASTIME, NOT THEIRS!" (ironic given that these "hardcores" may have been popular or jocks in their day, and their coming was treated the same way by nerds in 1996). And you complain about it being "cheating" and about penalizing players for using it. But you know what? He's Shigeru motherfucking Miyamoto, the man who saved gaming from its own asshole at least twice, with the astonishingly innovative Super Mario Bros. in the early 80s and with the less-"hardcore" more-accessible Wii and DS more recently. That man knows what he's doing, and for fuck's sake, he made The Legend of Zelda. I'm willing to go along with any mad scheme of his just for that, let alone a track record that makes him seem more than human.

[dudeweresmybluecar]

some atualy help with a game, like invicabilty and inf. amo ect.

but there are useless ones, higher jump longer run etc.

[KeithHybrid]

At 11/11/09 12:00 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: Truth

You, sir, have won my respect.

[Chdonga]

Just because you don't get achievements for cheating doesn't make it punishment. It makes it fair. If they allowed that, a bunch of people would complain that GTA is too nice on achievements since you can unlock them by cheating.

[Kenshi]

GTA was meant to be played fair and square. The cheats are in so you can basically screw around, like everyone else said. Just because you suck doesn't mean you should cry. If you want to cheat that badly, get GTA:SA for PC and use a trainer.. God.

[Auz]

At 11/11/09 07:59 AM, TCD2008 wrote: How do money codes make a game more fun?

All cars are black? (I can see pink as funny but black?)

There are plenty of other fun and useful codes in GTA. Like the flying cars, unlimited ammo, riots and exploding cars cheat (in SA). I think even the money cheat can be fun since it allows you to buy every property, gun, clothing or whatever you can find that is for sale.

And is it really that weird that you shouldn't save your game after cheating? Since most people are probably very tempted to cheat if they're stuck, being allowed to cheat wouldn't do the game any good. Perhaps they could've done it differently though instead of destroying your save file. Like the save icon simply disappears everywhere after cheating.

[Sizzlebuzz]

I don't understand this either. And once used, they nullify achievements for good. It seems pretty stupid.

But, it's called cheating for a reason/

[TCD2008]

WHAT'S NEXT? if I save the game and I never use a code it'll penilize me for saving?

What I mean is most people need to save but if you don't it makes it harder, so if you don't cheat it's actually harder too but really instead of punishing cheator why not just signify them as cheators? Everytime they play that game online It'll say "This person cheated this many times: (insert ammount)"

[LTmatt]

At 11/11/09 07:59 AM, TCD2008 wrote: GTA: NSMBWII

wat

[akmeteor]

At 11/11/09 10:06 PM, LTmatt wrote:

At 11/11/09 07:59 AM, TCD2008 wrote: GTA: NSMBWII

wat

Oh boy, that sounds like fun!

[blakemo]

I hate the Konami code, it pointless on Contra.

[TCD2008]

At 11/11/09 10:44 PM, blakemo wrote: I hate the Konami code, it pointless on Contra.

I would call it pointless 30 exta lives(I think) isn't pointless but, that's my opinion.

[Samen]

At 11/11/09 09:10 PM, TCD2008 wrote: WHAT'S NEXT? if I save the game and I never use a code it'll penilize me for saving?

What I mean is most people need to save but if you don't it makes it harder, so if you don't cheat it's actually harder too but really instead of punishing cheator why not just signify them as cheators? Everytime they play that game online It'll say "This person cheated this many times: (insert ammount)"

Codes aren't put in for the player to use during serious gameplay, they're put in to ease the development process (it's a lot easier to test the AI scripting if you don't have to worry about health, or to check if all the guns work if you don't have to go out and find them). It became tradition to leave them in the game in the days before the internet really took off, because they became fun little easter eggs for players to find and use, and stayed popular afterwards, even if they lost their punch, since they're posted up all over the web now.

[i-heart-katamari]

At 11/11/09 12:02 PM, dudeweresmybluecar wrote: some atualy help with a game, like invicabilty and inf. amo ect.

but there are useless ones, higher jump longer run etc.

I would much rather have higher jump and longer run, seeing as it's just boring running around not being able to die, sure its fun for a good 5 minutes, but after that you just ask yourself "why?". Longer jump and faster run isn't as overpowered as just being invincible, and gives you a little more sense of accomplishment when you beat the level, while also being more fun from the cheats