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At 11/10/09 04:55 PM, darkrchaos wrote: Fighting with religion is like fighting with a girl. You can't win. Because they don't fight with any logic and no matter what you say they both say your wrong.

Unless it's a catfight, in which case the people watching it are the real winners.

At 11/10/09 04:49 PM, JohnnyWang wrote: ???

God supposedly made the sun after plants.

At 11/10/09 04:49 PM, xXShortEmoKidXx wrote: (*Jaw dropping) That all makes a shitload of sense, actually. Atleast more than some of the stuff I have heard in church. There are SO many fucking rules. I think I might switch to Bhuddism; if you do good deeds, help others, and right all your wrongs, you will achieve enlightenment.

Buddhism is more a way of life and philosophy than religion in my opinion. The Bible was created in a time where scientific advances were absent so they didn't think there was anything past the stars and they didn't know plants don't grow without sunlight. In the modern age it's become more evident so it's easier to expose the flaws in the Bible. Most Christians are exposed at a young and impressionable age when they are too young to know fiction from fact. Some argue that Christianity has good morales and lessons but the morality in the Bible just stems from common sense that every person inherits over time. You always see that little kid screwing around in the grocery store but 5 years later he knows that it's not right to do.

The point I'm getting at here is that every point in the Bible has a more logical alternative.

My parents took me to church for like 10 years so it's much easier to realize once you've seen it all from the inside.

At 11/10/09 04:54 PM, JohnnyWang wrote:

At 11/10/09 04:52 PM, Fleuve wrote: The Bible says that the Devil put fossils, artifacts etc, to trick us. They never existed!

I'm fairly sure you're joking... but just in case you're not, [CITATION NEEDED]

I couldn't find what I was looking for so I'll leave you a Yahoo answers

At 11/10/09 05:03 PM, GiantDouche wrote:

At 11/10/09 04:49 PM, JohnnyWang wrote: ???

God supposedly made the sun after plants.

At 11/10/09 04:49 PM, xXShortEmoKidXx wrote: (*Jaw dropping) That all makes a shitload of sense, actually. Atleast more than some of the stuff I have heard in church. There are SO many fucking rules. I think I might switch to Bhuddism; if you do good deeds, help others, and right all your wrongs, you will achieve enlightenment.

Buddhism is more a way of life and philosophy than religion in my opinion. The Bible was created in a time where scientific advances were absent so they didn't think there was anything past the stars and they didn't know plants don't grow without sunlight. In the modern age it's become more evident so it's easier to expose the flaws in the Bible. Most Christians are exposed at a young and impressionable age when they are too young to know fiction from fact. Some argue that Christianity has good morales and lessons but the morality in the Bible just stems from common sense that every person inherits over time. You always see that little kid screwing around in the grocery store but 5 years later he knows that it's not right to do.

The point I'm getting at here is that every point in the Bible has a more logical alternative.

That's true. I just hate it when people assume that the bible is 100% mistake-free and every other belief sucks ass. Seriously, my church believes that you HAVE to be Catholic to get into heaven. If you're Lutheran, Methodist, Jewish, it's HELL FOR YOU!!! That's fucking stupid.

My parents took me to church for like 10 years so it's much easier to realize once you've seen it all from the inside.

Everything in the bible can be disproved by using common sense.

At 11/10/09 05:01 PM, MrFinland wrote:

At 11/10/09 04:55 PM, darkrchaos wrote: Fighting with religion is like fighting with a girl. You can't win. Because they don't fight with any logic and no matter what you say they both say your wrong.

Unless it's a catfight, in which case the people watching it are the real winners.

haha there is another thing they have in common.

At 11/10/09 05:13 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Everything in the bible can be disproved by using common sense.

Thomas Paine in 1796 did it with The Age Of Reason. But before that he wrote Common Sense.

At 11/10/09 05:05 PM, Fleuve wrote:
I couldn't find what I was looking for so I'll leave you a Yahoo answers

Note that no-one actually quotes scipture there. Some mmention Noah's flood and how they were buried there, but geology does not work that way.

At 11/10/09 04:29 PM, xXShortEmoKidXx wrote: Dinosaur bones have been proven to exist before man ever did, AND that they never existed at the same time.

How exactly did they prove that?

Do you know your facts or are you just spitting out complete bullshit just to flame religious people?

At 11/10/09 05:32 PM, Jinx-Studios wrote:
How exactly did they prove that?

Radiocarbon dating, which is something that, you know, works, despite what creationist websites calim.

At 11/10/09 04:44 PM, GiantDouche wrote: It was once said that Judas tripped on a rock and died, and then later said he hung himself.
The Earth is only 6000 years old. No comment.
Evolution is not true.

(I don't think the bible even acknowledges evolution, since it is a concept that isn't around until several hundreds of years later)

Man was created before animals.

(Pretty sure the bible also says that God created "the plants and the animals and the skies and the seas and all the creatures that dwell within" in like the first week, before creating man.)

In the Garden of Eden plants survived without the sun.

(Isn't one of the first parts of Genesis "And then there was light" i.e, the sun?)

Yeah dude I couldn't follow that book at all like continuity errors all over the place i didnt know wtf was goin on like one time this dude jesus was capped by some whack ass niga pontius pilate then like later on dis jesus dude come flyin out of rocks and some shit and like flies off into the sky to hang out wit some old ass niga, im like wtf?!

The post about it being basically a moral guidebook is completely accurate. Pointing out "but obviously it was written before modern science and has no value!" is just complicating it, and arguments over specific facts like "Well obviously plants cant survive without the sun! " are just bullshit dick-measuring arguments because people can't stand to be wrong, among other things (such as 16-year-olds thinking that they're really rocking the boat and are really breaking into some new realm of higher intelligence or something).

Here is a question I pose to you that I don't really expect answered, but I ask for the sake of knowing: What do you get from "disproving" the bible, or religion?
Will the problems of the world disappear; will people stop fighting wars, will the rich help the poor, suddenly? Will the "evil. gay-burning Christians who hate free knowledge and burn books" suddenly realize that their views on gays or their ideas on what they believe suddenly be altered, and they'll wake up and join you in your new utopia? (I know you aren't arguing for those causes but you give no other explanation as to why you hate religious organizations, other than "Well, someone told me they were bad!")
Will humans suddenly realize the solution to all the problems they have been stuck on until now, and suddenly we will break into a new era of super-advanced intelligence, or will things continue on as they are, and as they have been?

At 11/10/09 04:29 PM, xXShortEmoKidXx wrote: I have ONE argument that pretty much disproves the entire bible:

Dinosaur bones have been proven to exist before man ever did, AND that they never existed at the same time. However, in the bible, it said that man was the first created. Arguments?

Actually, the Bible did NOT say that man was created first, we were created on the sixth day if I recall correctly.

I think starting now any thread relating to disproving/proving the validity of religion should result in a perma-ban. Who's with me?

If you want a good Bible disproof. Adam was made first, then Eve. It doesn't make sense, females are always made before males. There is no only male species in the world but there is some only female species. Now maybe the guy wrote it wrong or wanted to make male look better, but if one thing is wrong that means other things can be wrong.

At 11/10/09 06:19 PM, Major-n0ob wrote:

At 11/10/09 04:29 PM, xXShortEmoKidXx wrote: I have ONE argument that pretty much disproves the entire bible:

Dinosaur bones have been proven to exist before man ever did, AND that they never existed at the same time. However, in the bible, it said that man was the first created. Arguments?

Actually, the Bible did NOT say that man was created first, we were created on the sixth day if I recall correctly.

Oh, hehe....well, er...the thing about THAT is....uhh.......(*shoots Major-no0b in the forehead) good, good, now no one will ever hear of this conversation, and .....oh fuck- this conversation is online!

Either you believe in God, or you don't. But when Jesus comes and saves us all, don't be crying when you're left out.

In the Bible, the animals were made first. Read Genesis again.

At 11/10/09 04:51 PM, Thegluestickman wrote: Catholics look to the Bible for Moral truth not Scientific truth.

"Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.'" - Samuel 15:2-3

Nice morals.

the bible isnt supposed to be taken literally fucktard 7 days can really mean 7 trillion for all we know. Sides Even so that makes the bible 98% true if you were right. Good job you really just shattered the christain community.

idiot

At 11/10/09 04:42 PM, ForNoReason wrote: Bible dosent say that man came first.

exactly like i was saying before on the 3rd day i believe was the first sign of life. And if im not mistaken it said in the waters. Hmmm sounds awfully like what happens in evolution don't it.

At 11/10/09 04:53 PM, Hellraiser wrote:

At 11/10/09 04:36 PM, Tribalfusion-X wrote: a whole bunch of shit

As a wise bbs moderator once said? Honestly you can't qoute dawkins so you use a bbs mod? Youre clearly an idiot so no one is taking advice from you. Please if youre gonna be pro atheist and use a role model. Don't qoute 35 year old who wastes his hours on a website living in his mom basement.

the bible was disproved the moment somebody pulled their head out of their ass

At 11/10/09 04:31 PM, MrFinland wrote: Wow, another thread trying to prove Bible wrong on Newgrounds.

What did originality mean again?

I laughed because he used the same played out style of sarcastic posting everyone else does. HYPOCRISY!

At 11/10/09 10:19 PM, MegamanZero360 wrote: Either you believe in God, or you don't. But when Jesus comes and saves us all, don't be crying when you're left out.

That's what pisses me off, when you try to 'save' other people who don't believe what you do. Just fucking leave them alone, dude. That's what I do at school when I see an atheist. I just DON'T FUCKING CARE!! You shouldn't, either.

At 11/10/09 04:49 PM, xXShortEmoKidXx wrote: I think I might switch to Bhuddism; if you do good deeds, help others, and right all your wrongs, you will achieve enlightenment.

"I wanna "switch to Buddhism", but I cant even spell it right, but it's somysterious and oriental and thats theonly reason I like it aside from mommy saying I have to be Catholic when I don't even know the first book of the bible"
Maybe you should steer clear of any religion there, champ.

I have a viewpoint that is different to somebody else, consequently they are wrong and I must tell them they are wrong so they change their viewpoint.