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Verniso

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:14 PM

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I swear to god, someone is blamming one of my friends' songs. I am not going to specify names. Because then I will be reported for victimizing and then if I say my friends' username then he will be blammed even more. But are they illegal on NG? are blam groups kinda outlawed? or do they allow them? Because my friends score dropped from 4.20 - 3.36 in just 20 minutes.
I refreshed the screen everynow and then and the score kept going down. Heck, the score is probably even lower right now. What should I do? I told him to talk to Wade about this and he did. but is there anything else I should do?


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RockMessiah123

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:14 PM

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who cares? people zero bomb my songs all the time. it doesnt mean they are bad

Rattle your head. Listen to my music.

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13oobs

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:15 PM

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Send a pm to an audio mod, and not talk about it in the general bbs

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StrangelyMauled

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:16 PM

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Well, first of all he is getting zero-bombed not blammed. Second of all, it happens to the best of them, just learn to deal with it.

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KrevZabijak

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:16 PM

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At 11/9/09 09:15 PM, 13oobs wrote: Send a pm to an audio mod, and not talk about it in the general bbs

In the audio forum, I've never seen mods talk about any steps that can be taken other than you and your friend's fiving it yourselves, nor to PM the mods either.
There's nothing they can do.


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Pokemonpoeguygcn

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:17 PM

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At 11/9/09 09:14 PM, Verniso wrote: Because my friends score dropped from 4.20 - 3.36 in just 20 minutes.

Don't you think it's someone with a high voting power instead of a group?


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Verniso

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:22 PM

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nope, if it's 4 or 5 votes in like 20 minutes, It's definitely a group.


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Digital-Terror

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:23 PM

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Have you considered that maybe his songs just suck?

Go to this fucking blog right now: http://inyourfaceheh.blogspot.com/

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:25 PM

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At 11/9/09 09:22 PM, Verniso wrote: nope, if it's 4 or 5 votes in like 20 minutes, It's definitely a group.

4 or 5 low votes doesn't necessarily mean that they're 0 bombing it. Scores often times start high and then drop substantially as more people vote on it. In the audio portal, 5 votes of two or three will bring a 4.20 score down pretty quickly, especially if the voters have high voting powers.

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STEM

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:26 PM

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There is literally nothing you can do. Though you can accept the fact that scores mean nothing. If your friend cared enough about his music for people to listen to it, he'd talk to flash artists to use his stuff in their animations, not just 5 his songs every day in hopes that it will hit the top lists.

This is pure, assisted self-destruction

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KrevZabijak

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:26 PM

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The high pieces tend to get blammed just for having a high score. And it could be one person proxying that has a grudge, or a combination of the two. Who knows. Just five the fuck outta your stuff until they get tired and stop.


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Minion777

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Posted at: 11/9/09 09:26 PM

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I AM THE BLAM GROUP

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DO ANY OF YOU BOYS LIVE IN VIRGINIA?!
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DaveGuy

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Posted at: 11/9/09 10:40 PM

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At 11/9/09 09:23 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: Have you considered that maybe his songs just suck?

no his songs don't just suck. He had like 50 listens and 12 downloads. I remember the number.
and the score is down to 3.11 now.


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Sh0T-D0wN

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Posted at: 11/9/09 10:42 PM

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At 11/9/09 10:40 PM, DaveGuy wrote:
At 11/9/09 09:23 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: Have you considered that maybe his songs just suck?
no his songs don't just suck. He had like 50 listens and 12 downloads. I remember the number.
and the score is down to 3.11 now.

With 50 listens any vote lower than it's current score is bound to hit it like a rock. It could just be that people are hitting 2's and 3's.

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Jamoke

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Posted at: 11/9/09 10:43 PM

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I'm just going to come out and say what everybody's thinking: conspiracy of the highest order.
Super cereal, someone is out to get you, motherfucker. I'll bet the trail leads all the way back to Rome.


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Ass-Crumb

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Posted at: 11/9/09 10:44 PM

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I doubt it's a blam group.

The Audio Portal doesn't really see a ton of voters like the flash portal. Within 20 minutes of submission you would probably only really expect maybe 10 or so votes, and even so if say, five were 0's and the other five were 5's it'd still only come up to about 2.5 or so. Basically one user with a decent voting power can completely destroy a new song if he wanted to.


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Posted at: 11/9/09 10:45 PM

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At 11/9/09 10:43 PM, Jamoke wrote: I'm just going to come out and say what everybody's thinking: conspiracy of the highest order.
Super cereal, someone is out to get you, motherfucker. I'll bet the trail leads all the way back to Rome.

They still live in sworn secrecy....


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charmaster4

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Posted at: 11/9/09 10:47 PM

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maybe the song just sucks? post a link

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levusbevus

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Posted at: 11/9/09 10:52 PM

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Meh people rate low on my stuff at times. I don't really care though because a score on Newgrounds doesn't mean much really. As long as I like my stuff I don't care what other people think.

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RandomExploit

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Posted at: 11/9/09 10:56 PM

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The fives completely dominate the zeros.

A flash requires 1.60 from an average of 200 votes to pass completely.

100 fives and 100 zeros = an average of 2.5


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michelinman

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Posted at: 11/9/09 10:58 PM

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At 11/9/09 10:56 PM, RandomExploit wrote: The fives completely dominate the zeros.

A flash requires 1.60 from an average of 200 votes to pass completely.

100 fives and 100 zeros = an average of 2.5

Good thing we were talking about audio, and not flash. If you had bothered to read JUST 11 WORDS INTO THE OP, you'd know that. Seriously, how lazy are people on here nowadays? Goddamn.


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Psycho666

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Posted at: 11/9/09 11:01 PM

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I have the power to vote zero on any audio file i do not like. I do this a lot, along with flash and art. If I don't like it, well, thats what I'm supposed to say!


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DaveGuy

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Posted at: 11/9/09 11:21 PM

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oh no they are not. with14 votes to 4.20-3.85, 15 votes from 3.85-3.51 to 16 votes and then to 3.32 with 17 votes, and then to 3.11 with 18 votes and someone saved him up to 19 votes. Just calculate the math. You'll get it. and there were previous zerobombings that were partially but badly blotted out by constant fives


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DaveGuy

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Posted at: 11/9/09 11:23 PM

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yeah, it was wayyyyyyy after if was off the newest submissions. Like 5 hours after I think. OH well I can't remember that well but all I know is that it was wayyy past being on the front pages and newest submissions list before it got blammed.


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DaveGuy

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Posted at: 11/9/09 11:25 PM

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At 11/9/09 10:47 PM, charmaster4 wrote: maybe the song just sucks? post a link

www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/286920 is the blammed submission.


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RandomExploit

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Posted at: 11/9/09 11:27 PM

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At 11/9/09 10:58 PM, michelinman wrote: Good thing we were talking about audio, and not flash. If you had bothered to read JUST 11 WORDS INTO THE OP, you'd know that. Seriously, how lazy are people on here nowadays? Goddamn.

Hey, people make their mistakes. Now shut the fuck up and stop pretending you're a perfect little cupcake.


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Jamoke

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Posted at: 11/9/09 11:31 PM

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It's just so sad it's pathetic now, also it's about half past don't-give-a-fuck.


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