Guide for Women to Date Men.

[Stoicish]

I'm a man. I've been on dates and this is contrary to what dumb tarded troll on here is going to say because he think being a cynical ass is cool. Anyway, before I detract to the mental capacity of most users on General I'd like to point out something about women and dating.

First thing men should know but never full realize is that women are more complex then the let on. They have millions of thoughts going through their brains whenever is has to do with anything. It is somewhat on more of an analytical level that men will never reach. For example, to reach a conclusion on some event or thought a woman probably goes through thousands of different scenarios before they reach on solid conclusion that seems insane to men, but completely logical to them.

They use this same formula when picking out shoes.

Second thing women should know about men is that we are less complex than they think we are. We are generally a straight forward group of people. We usually mean what we say and say what is on our minds. When we come to a conclusion to something we go through a scenario, find the most logical one and then we are done with it. This sometimes makes us brilliant or incredibly stupid.

Because of this, in the dating world, messages tend to get mixed.

I'm going to comprise a list of things women do wrong on dates with men and how they can fix it. It's a list that is modern and relevant. If you are wondering why I am not doing one for men...well...we do a lot of things wrong on dates. Most of which we don't realize and probably won't realize until 10 years down the road when we have a self-pity day.

Common things Women Do Wrong on a Date:

You Don't Engage in Conversation
What's the problem: A man is talking to a woman and trying to figure things about her life. She barely speaks and usually gives short answers. Then man tries to stay engaged, but she seems distant, uncaring or something is wrong with her that we can't explain. That date usually ends up bad because the conversation is stale and ends up being a quiet night.
Explanation: There are several reasons why a girl does this. She is uninterested in the subject, she had a bad day and her mind is elsewhere or she is just nervous and afraid to talk too much. Whatever the reason may be, in the end, it tends to be annoying.
Solution: Unless you just realize that you don't care about the guy during the date make sure you stay engaged in conversation. It is really frustrating when you don't respond that much and something the guy actually cares about you and what you have to say.

You Text During a Date
Problem: You are in the middle of a date and you pull out your cell phone to text people. Why? I'm talking to you and trying to get to know you. Why the fuck do you need to text? It's disrespectful and most girls don't even realize. For some guys this is a straight ticket for you to never get called back fast.
Why they do it: Fuck if I know why. In this new digital age you can't pry a young woman from her cell phone. She has to be constantly connected with everyone she knows and damned if a date is going to stop her. A simple solution would be that she is texting a friend to let her know how the date is going. Other one is that she is uninterested and is trying to find something more interesting to do.
Solution: LEAVE THE FUCKING CELL PHONE ALONE! I don't know about other guys, but if you do that to me you are done. I don't want to see you anymore. For the roughly 2-4 hours you are with me that night you can avoid touching the cell phone. What it says to me is that you don't care enough about me or the date to pay that much attention. The only real reason you should be messing with the cell phone is if there is an emergency and if there is one then you probably shouldn't be on a date in the first place.

Excuse Yourself to the Bathroom and Never Come Back
Problem: Date is going bad and you need a quick way out. You don't know what to do and you possibly think the guy is creepy. So you excuse yourself from the bathroom and get a friend to pick you up. The guy is left wondering what happened to you for a little while until he's smart enough to get the hint and pay the check.
Why the do it: Cause you are a bitch. This happened to me once in my earlier dating day when I was still trying to figure out the world. I admit, looking back on it, I was trying too hard to be funny and some of my humor can be a bit out there. I've learned that you have to hold back a bit on a few things until the girl is okay with it. Still, there is no excuse for this and it happens to some guys more often than you think.
Solution: Guys appreciate it when you are direct. Unless you think they are going to kill you I would avoid doing this thing. Instead explain yourself that things just aren't going well and you'd like him to take you home or you are having a friend pick you up. He'll be upset about it, sure, but at least he doesn't have to wait around for a long time thinking that you are pooping.

Three's Company!
Problem: Guy ask you on date. When you arrive all of a sudden your friend is there too.
Why they do it: Nervousness, I suppose. You want it to be really fun and the girlfriend can be a good person to draw feedback on. However, this is not cool at all. When a guy asks you out it just means the two of you and that is it. Adding the friend makes it horrible especially when you go off into your own little worlds to comment on the guy. Which we know you are doing.
Solution: Really, leave the friend at home. It's not cool.

RAWR! This is someone new.
Problem: Again, happened to me once. As a change of pace I took a girl to a rock concert after we hit it off. Things were going great until we met up with a friend. After that she proceeded to hang off of the friend and by the time the concert was over they were necking. I remind you that I paid for her ticket. This is a uncommon occurrence, but it happens.
Why they do it: A slut? Okay, okay so you are generally looking around for men. You want a prospective one and one that seems like he's a good catch. Well, what happens if you go out and find an even better catch? There a plenty of fish in the sea, but you just dropped some Tuna for a Salmon. Things look pretty good and besides, the guy you are with is cool. He'll understand completely or I just don't care.
Solution: Fuck off no one cares what you think past this point. You are on a date with someone. This means with THAT person. This is a date not an all you can eat buffet. You don't just go out and pick which guy you want. This makes you a horrible person beyond comprehension. If a situation like this happens (in which case the guy will obviously break friendship) you should just live out the date. Who knows? You may still enjoy the date. After wards you can be nice and polite with the guy and say that, yeah, you had a great time, but you'd just rather be friends. Then your options are open again.

If any other males like to point out things they hate women doing on date feel free to add on in this format:
Problem: Meaning the problem they cause
Why they do it: Why you think they do what they do.
Solution: What you think they can do to improve

Women on this website can do the same for men although I assure you we do a lot of wrong things on dates.

[karlsdick]

men don't look for anything in a woman, all we wanna do is fuck, this guide is as pointless as a pair of tits on a nun

[megakill]

women on this site?
so what, your adressing gagsy, jade and mori-chax? all of which have probably had more dates than you?

[Stoicish]

At 11/4/09 04:47 PM, Stoicish wrote: I've been on dates and this is contrary to what dumb tarded troll on here is going to say because he think being a cynical ass is cool.

*cough*

[karlsdick]

I read through most of this n its all bullshit, why the fuck can't i read a message while I'm on a date? thats fucking stupid, you're an idiot, I bet you're an ugly geeky good two shoes, us men don't like go for people like u, we want bad ass hot chicks, go fix yaself up n get some medicine for that cough

[NaziiNinja]

TL;dr

Women don't need this.

[Spirosgod]

At 11/4/09 04:50 PM, megakill wrote: women on this site?
so what, your adressing gagsy, jade and mori-chax? all of which have probably had more dates than you?

No you are not cool, shut up.

[Tiago11103]

At 11/4/09 04:47 PM, Stoicish wrote: I'm a man. I've been on dates and this is contrary to what dumb tarded troll on here is going to say because he think being a cynical ass is cool. Anyway, before I detract to the mental capacity of most users on General I'd like to point out something about women and dating.

AHAHAAHA after reading your first point i browsed through the rest of the title and concluded that your dates must suck bad, and that women aren't the ones who need a guide.

[Stoicish]

At 11/4/09 04:54 PM, karlsdick wrote: I read through most of this n its all bullshit, why the fuck can't i read a message while I'm on a date? thats fucking stupid, you're an idiot, I bet you're an ugly geeky good two shoes, us men don't like go for people like u, we want bad ass hot chicks, go fix yaself up n get some medicine for that cough

There was a point there, but you illiterate ass apparently doesn't know what a run-on sentence is.

I'm pretty sure you are a guy, but a was just saying for girls. Anyway, I think it is pretty disrespectful if you are texting through a date. I think it can wait until it's over.

Why am I an idiot?

A geek with two shoes? Come now good sir. I thought all people own two shoes, but I'm obviously not keeping up with new styles.

[physicsman09]

"So did you want to go make me a sandwich Friday night?"

Best pickup line ever.

[katyperryy]

When I'm on dates, the bitches are all over me. They don't have time to listen to a cell phone ring, because I'm a great entertainer. All this is your problem for not being an interesting person, nerd.

[Evark]

What seems more reasonable, that you're going to influence all the potential women you've yet to date into not doing these things on your future dates? Or that these actions are somehow reflective of mistakes you've made on the dates that you didn't catch right away? If a girl isn't engaging in conversation it's because you haven't made her interested yet. If a girl is texting others it's because there's a lull in the conversation and she's got nothing to do. If a girl is leaving you in the middle of the date it's because you're being an awkward weirdo. If a girl is hooking up with some other douche it's because you didn't own all over him with your wit as soon as he appeared. And paying for the chick's shit? Fuck that. Women should be paying for themselves until they've proven to you that they're worth treating every once in a while.

Honestly though, it just seems like common sense that women know these things piss off the dude, or irk him. Just because a person isn't conscious of the signals they're sending doesn't mean they're any less legitimate or important.

[leo967846]

At 11/4/09 04:50 PM, megakill wrote:

so what, your adressing gagsy, jade and mori-chax?

and me

[Stoicish]

At 11/4/09 05:15 PM, Evark wrote:
Honestly though, it just seems like common sense that women know these things piss off the dude, or irk him. Just because a person isn't conscious of the signals they're sending doesn't mean they're any less legitimate or important.

Hey, I did say that it is quite possibly because the guy is dull and uninteresting and in fact mention that men do have a tendency to do things wrong on a date.

[jakobhummelen]

Guide for women to date men: Put out

Nuff said

[TylerDurden121]

We only want sex dammit, if we're being romantic we want sex, if we buy a girl nice things then maby we'll try for anal, if we give her a kiss we expect a blowjob. And the girls probably don't enjoy our extremly small wieners anyway. Yep we truly are the better sex...

[TheBoard]

You have either a very distorted view of the world or no understanding as to how the human mind works. Every scenario you laid out pointed out your shortcomings.
She's not engaging your conversation? She hasn't had a bad day, she's not worried about 'over talking'. She's fucking bored of your lame conversation. She's texting in a date? Yeah, for all you know she isn't even texting; she's just trying to get away from you, one fake text at a time. This is a common behavior that all people seem to do, male or female, in our out of dates. Oh man, why would she not come back after going to the bathroom? You're right in that she's creeped the fuck out but rather than it being your stale jokes, it's more likely your entire demeanor. She brought a friend to a date you asked her on? Yeah she doesn't actually want to be with you and she brought a safety. She ain't nervous kid, she doesn't want it to be super awkward. Why would a girl attach to a friend of yours at a concert, after you've knocked it out of the park the date before? Maybe you didn't hit such a grand slam, slugger. Come to realize she's not a slut. Women aren't as impulsive as you paint them to be. If she wants to be around you, she will be. Even if she sees a guy more attractive than yourself, and they all do, she'll stay if she's into you.
For whatever reason you don't interpret yourself as the problem. Instead, the 'type' of girl is at fault and you've begun drafting delusional/inept conclusions to instruct women on how to date. More than that, you're telling them how to date you. You're delusional. It is painfully obvious you don't have good relationships with people at large, warping how you interpret things most kids figure out as kids. All this escapism and ruminating, getting up in your head, letting your imagination run your interpersonal relations, is fucking you up more.

[Lost-Chances]

All the girls I can think of that go to NG aren't exactly looking for men.

[camobch0]

At 11/4/09 04:49 PM, karlsdick wrote: men don't look for anything in a woman, all we wanna do is fuck, this guide is as pointless as a pair of tits on a nun

precisely, this man has the idea.

[ohbombuh]

At 11/4/09 05:31 PM, jakobhummelen wrote: Guide for women to date men: Put out

Nuff said

Agreed. At least guys aren't using clubs like we did in Prehistoric times.

[TehdeShite]

Tehdes only have one sex. shAA mALES bABY, yAHAh WE gEt iT on ALL NIGHT!

[Stoicish]

At 11/4/09 06:04 PM, TheBoard wrote: You have either a very distorted view of the world or no understanding as to how the human mind works. Every scenario you laid out pointed out your shortcomings.

I like to think I do, but then again I wasn't aware you were a psychologist. Oh please, oh please doctor, analyze me and help me understand how the human mind works. Despite the fact that no one is every going to fully understand how another person is thinking or feeling I assume that you know because you KNOW how the human mind works.

As for my shortcomings I don't really make it a secret that a have a few, but I like to think I'm a fairly decent person. I live a normal life and those scenario's aren't only ones I have experienced before, but ones many guys have experienced before. Besides, like I said in them, girls tend to get bored or you are horribly uninteresting/creepy. Therefore they do these things. Doesn't make them anymore right other than just being straight forward.

She's not engaging your conversation? She hasn't had a bad day, she's not worried about 'over talking'. She's fucking bored of your lame conversation.

I thought "She is uninterested in the subject" covered that, but if you want me to go into more detail then, yes, she is bored by the lame conversation.

She's texting in a date? Yeah, for all you know she isn't even texting; she's just trying to get away from you, one fake text at a time. This is a common behavior that all people seem to do, male or female, in our out of dates.

I thought "Other one is that she is uninterested and is trying to find something more interesting to do." covered that, but obviously you don't read into it too much.

I still find it to be kind of rude even if it is a fake text.

Oh man, why would she not come back after going to the bathroom? You're right in that she's creeped the fuck out but rather than it being your stale jokes, it's more likely your entire demeanor.

I was 17 at the time and we were teenagers and I haven't really been out on all that many dates and it didn't go as well as I planned. Oh shit, I even said that I acted like a creep, but you had to take it one step further and make me out to be the ugly creepy dude who cuts off Barbie Doll heads in a basement.

Get over yourself chump. Don't assume you know more about me then you think you do.

:She brought a friend to a date you asked her on? Yeah she doesn't actually want to be with you and she brought a safety. She ain't nervous kid, she doesn't want it to be super awkward.

You have a failure in that logic friend. If a girl doesn't actually want to be with a person on a date then why would the bother to go? I'm sure it would be so much easier to give a BS excuse to cancel then actually going out. I mean, if I realized I wasn't all that interested in someone then I probably wouldn't go out on that date if I didn't think it was worthwhile.

That still doesn't explain the friend bringing anyway. Which, by the way, I've heard happens to many guys before.

Thanks for the "kid" comment seeing how I am older than you, but thanks for playing.

I'm dumbfounded how you reach your conclusions.

Why would a girl attach to a friend of yours at a concert, after you've knocked it out of the park the date before? Maybe you didn't hit such a grand slam, slugger. Come to realize she's not a slut. Women aren't as impulsive as you paint them to be. If she wants to be around you, she will be. Even if she sees a guy more attractive than yourself, and they all do, she'll stay if she's into you.

True, but this one was. It happens and it happened to me and I didn't tell the full story anyway because I didn't want to detract. Add alcohol to the mix in her system and you have the makings for bad mistakes. Besides after my friend ditched literally right after the concert she went ahead and apologized for "acting like a slut" and saying "normally I don't act like that" and blah blah blah.

Again, don't pretend you know everything.

For whatever reason you don't interpret yourself as the problem. Instead, the 'type' of girl is at fault and you've begun drafting delusional/inept conclusions to instruct women on how to date.

Ohhhh, this topic was more of a joke than anything and I've pretty much accepted on a large part any kind of shortcomings I have,by the way, I don't think I have many.

Do you want me to point out yours?

You are over-analytical. You like having control of all situations and detest the thought of not being right. When you read something or hear something from another person you assume there is a deeper meaning to the cause rather than seeing it at surface value. Your grasp on the world doesn't extend beyond the bubble that you have created for yourself and instead of figuring out your own problems you instead like to find out what other people problems are.

You are critical of everything you see and cocky to boot.
You think you are mature beyond your years and KNOW, not think but, KNOW that your critical thinking level is way beyond any ignorant person that wonders in the world.

You touch yourself at night.

You assume you are God gift to women.

And on, and on, and on...

I could go on and I'll assume you'll call me out for all these things and say I am wrong and that I know nothing about your life.

Wouldn't that be ironic?