Forum Topic: Drug Use: Should It Be Allowed?

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Now in the UK, a government advisor stated that LSD, Cannabis and ecstasy were less harmful than some legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco. It has caused a media storm, other scientific government figures resigned due to his sacking, which i feel was completely unjust.
His name was Professer Nutt, which inevitably has caused some groups calling him Professer Nutty.
It has split the nation and i myself cant really say alot, due to my inexpirience in this particular field. However i do know that if alcohol were discovered today, it would be banned so in that way prolonged or indulgent use of alcohol is far more dangerous to the body than LSD, Ecstacy and cannabis.
I just want to know, do you agree with Professer Nutt, and feel these currently illegal drugs shoud be legalised or do you feel that the current system is ok?

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One of the main arguments for cannabis legalization is that the government only legalizes harmful substances that they can tax and make money on.

Since cannabis and, to some extent, LSD can be created in the home environment, the government wouldn't be able to tax their production and distribution as successfully as they can with alcohol/tobacco.

So to answer your question - No, I don't think illegal drugs will be made legal until the government discovers an angle to make money from the legalization.

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That's a huge step for the UK to take. Cannabis would be the only logical substance to legalize. Although ectacy and LSD are possibly less harmful than pharmecuetical drugs and alchohol, they do cause long-term damage if abused.


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They really said LSD was less dangerous than alcohol? Dude, I was taught by those propoganda inspired teachers that LSD was something you could never get out of your system and perhaps the deadliest stuff you could ever take in your whole life.

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Some of the oldest artifacts on earth have been smoking devices in gravesites, meaning not only have humans done drugs since pretty much there were humans, modern man, but it means we held it in high regard, probably something of spiritual signifigance.

and to lead off of that, in the last 100 years the powers to be have decided drugs, tsk tsk, and you know what i have to say?

Stop us.

[ yes that means the should.....but if they dont, well....heh ]


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How is tobacco worse than LSD and ecstasy? I hardly see a logical argument that could be used to support this.


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Drugs that expand consciousness are not allowed.

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At 11/2/09 10:19 PM, Sizzlebuzz wrote: How is tobacco worse than LSD and ecstasy? I hardly see a logical argument that could be used to support this.

Lung cancer, nicotine, death... You know, little things.

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At 11/2/09 09:40 PM, Timmy wrote: LSD can be created in the home environment, the government wouldn't be able to tax their production and distribution as successfully as they can with alcohol/tobacco.

lol, growing a field of ergot infected rye then synthesizing lsd with proper equipment is much easier than making wine

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How many of these threads do we have? I lost count after 100...


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well its going to be done anyways all you douches that say stop weed use need to realize im just going to say fuck you and smoke some anyways so y not tax it and make good money and jobs out of it well in California where i live were planing on legalizing weed in 2011 and all i can say is legal or not im still smoking weed alcohol is not that great and cigs kill you

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At 11/2/09 10:54 PM, douchfree420 wrote: and cigs kill you

Life kills you too.

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At 11/2/09 09:40 PM, Timmy wrote: One of the main arguments for cannabis legalization is that the government only legalizes harmful substances that they can tax and make money on.

Since cannabis and, to some extent, LSD can be created in the home environment, the government wouldn't be able to tax their production and distribution as successfully as they can with alcohol/tobacco.

So to answer your question - No, I don't think illegal drugs will be made legal until the government discovers an angle to make money from the legalization.

lol, you can make your own brew, infact I know a couple of people that make their own moonshine-type alc............................

well i thought it'd put someshit here right?


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I'd personally say LSD is worse than alcohol and tobacco by far, as well as exctasy.
The only drug that is really not harmful is marijuana.


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At 11/2/09 11:57 PM, EpicFail wrote: I'd personally say LSD is worse than alcohol and tobacco by far, as well as exctasy.
The only drug that is really not harmful is marijuana.

well, LSD can give you what's called a Chronic High where you can randomly get high at any time...


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At 11/2/09 11:58 PM, wildface098 wrote:
At 11/2/09 11:57 PM, EpicFail wrote: I'd personally say LSD is worse than alcohol and tobacco by far, as well as exctasy.
The only drug that is really not harmful is marijuana.
well, LSD can give you what's called a Chronic High where you can randomly get high at any time...

Also fucks with your psychosis, and drives you insane if you do it too much.


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I'd personally say LSD is worse than alcohol and tobacco by far, as well as exctasy.

except it's non toxic, active at a tiny dose vs their much larger dose (while smoked) and doesn't deplete your serotonin like "exctasy"

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At 11/3/09 12:00 AM, EpicFail wrote:
At 11/2/09 11:58 PM, wildface098 wrote:
At 11/2/09 11:57 PM, EpicFail wrote: I'd personally say LSD is worse than alcohol and tobacco by far, as well as exctasy.
The only drug that is really not harmful is marijuana.
well, LSD can give you what's called a Chronic High where you can randomly get high at any time...
Also fucks with your psychosis, and drives you insane if you do it too much.

yeah, it's pretty much a cheaper and less risky version of Crystal meth... but I wouldn't take it, the last thing I could think of doing would be Marijuana, and there's no harm in smoking it really cuz it's a plant.

Here's where fucking 10 year olds come in saying "Weed Is a drug, notz a plantz!!!"

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methamphetamine is a stimulant, it mode of action is entirely different to the psychedelic drug lsd

ignorant people

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I hate when people say weed isn't a drug though, because ultimately it is, and they say "It's a plant dude."
Mushrooms are a plant.
Coke has plants in it.
Some MDMA has powder candies in it.

Does that make them not a drug?
Just a rant I thought I'd thrown in since I'm high and it's getting to me...


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At 11/3/09 12:06 AM, EpicFail wrote: I hate when people say weed isn't a drug though, because ultimately it is, and they say "It's a plant dude."
Mushrooms are a plant.
Coke has plants in it.
Some MDMA has powder candies in it.

Does that make them not a drug?
Just a rant I thought I'd thrown in since I'm high and it's getting to me...

well, it's originally a plant until somebody fucks with it by adding something to it... such as making Malaysian Fire Brownies, Buddha Juice, or just concentrating weed to make what people call "Hash"


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At 11/3/09 12:02 AM, wildface098 wrote:
At 11/3/09 12:00 AM, EpicFail wrote:
At 11/2/09 11:58 PM, wildface098 wrote:
At 11/2/09 11:57 PM, EpicFail wrote: I'd personally say LSD is worse than alcohol and tobacco by far, as well as exctasy.

people who die from tobacco a year = a fucking lot
people who die from alcohol a year = a fucking lot
people who die from LSD a year = not very many at all

yeah, it's pretty much a cheaper and less risky version of Crystal meth...

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coke is one chemical found in a plant (coca plant)

lol firebrownies? chronic high? quit making up terms

and its more complicated than concentrating weed, its the trichomes that are compressed

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At 11/3/09 12:11 AM, pr0ded wrote: coke is one chemical found in a plant (coca plant)

lol firebrownies? chronic high? quit making up terms

and its more complicated than concentrating weed, its the trichomes that are compressed

Yes, and by adding coke to weed makes a bad version of weed

Firebrownies are made from weed which is crushed and stirred in Brownie Mix

A Chronic high is when you randomly get highs at any possible moment

I just use the term "concentrate" to make it short and simple instead of giving you a whole fucking encyclopedia, okay?


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At 11/3/09 12:14 AM, wildface098 wrote:
Firebrownies are made from weed which is crushed and stirred in Brownie Mix

term doesn't exist
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&safe=off&q=%
22firebrownies%22&meta=&aq=f&oq=&fp=2c25 de0ec9d9d243

A Chronic high is when you randomly get highs at any possible moment

maybe in your world, that would be called a flashback, which are rare

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momma says i cant play n64 no more if i i do drugs, i am close to finishigng banjo kazooie so no drugs for me

this board still sucks

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At 11/3/09 12:16 AM, pr0ded wrote:
At 11/3/09 12:14 AM, wildface098 wrote:
Firebrownies are made from weed which is crushed and stirred in Brownie Mix
term doesn't exist
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&safe=off&q=%
22firebrownies%22&meta=&aq=f&oq=&fp=2c25 de0ec9d9d243
A Chronic high is when you randomly get highs at any possible moment
maybe in your world, that would be called a flashback, which are rare

actually yes it does exist... it just has many different terms such as marijuana has many different terms such as Pot, Hemp, DEvil's Lettuce, and Cain's Cabbage. so overall, he is right

and actually, he was right again... he just made it sound simple by saying "Chronic High" but it's really called Chronic Stoner Syndrome. So yet again, he was right, assjole.


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except he is your alt, as you don't show up out of nowhere from posting without posting for 4 months supporting someone by giving them alternative urbandictionary definitions


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At 11/3/09 12:31 AM, pr0de wrote: except he is your alt, as you don't show up out of nowhere from posting without posting for 4 months supporting someone by giving them alternative urbandictionary definitions

yeah, 4 post limit sucks a lot of dick... but the definitions really do exist, you guys just weren't looking in the right places.


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Posted at: 11/3/09 12:34 AM

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Also, flashbacks are nothing like what people seem to imagine they are.

It's not caused by residual LSD, because LSD has an incredibly short half life, and if evacuated completely out of the body in less than a week.

A flashback is simply a memory of the experience. You might, for a couple of seconds, see the walls breathe slightly, or see sound, or have an unusual shift of consciousness, but that's only a result of being primed to the experience.


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