Worship is based on location

[Yamor]

This is true for the most part.

If you live in Alabama you will most likely be Christian because this is what the majority told you to be. If you live in Jerusalem you will be Jewish for the same reason. If you are in Japan you will most likely be atheist.

Most people are their religion entirely by chance and where they are located. How does it make you feel that 90% of people get their morals from the roll of some dice.

[daves234]

At 11/1/09 11:51 PM, Yamor wrote: This is true for the most part.

If you live in Alabama you will most likely be Christian because this is what the majority told you to be. If you live in Jerusalem you will be Jewish for the same reason. If you are in Japan you will most likely be atheist.

Japanese hate blacks not kidding.

[EvilerBowser1001]

At 11/1/09 11:51 PM, Yamor wrote: If you live in Alabama you will most likely be Christian because this is what the majority told you to be. If you live in Jerusalem you will be Jewish for the same reason. If you are in Japan you will most likely be atheist.

Nah, Japanese are more likely to be "Agnostics with Cultural leanings of Shinto"
There are a lot of atheists there, but there's also a lot of prevalence of folk legends there.

I live in California, so does that mean I'm likely to be Catholic because that's what a lot of immigrants here are?

[SteveGuzzi]

At 11/1/09 11:51 PM, Yamor wrote: How does it make you feel that 90% of people get their morals from the roll of some dice.

It's about as insightful as pointing out that people speak Spanish in Spain, French in France, Portuguese in Portugal, English in England, Chinese in China, etc etc etc. In other words, 'durr no shit'.

[Sheizenhammer]

At 11/1/09 11:51 PM, Yamor wrote: Most people are their religion entirely by chance and where they are located. How does it make you feel that 90% of people get their morals from the roll of some dice.

I wouldn't say it's THAT high, but I know what you mean. People will tend to go with whatever their parents believe, so it's hardly surprising that things stay separated from each other like that. You know, communities and all that.

Of course, some people think more than that about it, and will decide for themselves, but those that don't are what cause the patchiness in belief systems and regional areas.

[Skwurll]

At 11/1/09 11:57 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote: In other words, 'durr no shit'.

Yep

[RoboJesus]

I'm surrounded by Christians and remain an atheist.

[Aggzza]

most of utah are mormons.
answer: bombs

[yurgenburgen]

It really highlights the bizarre-ness of believing in a specific set of beliefs, when the theist must know that the only reason they are believing in them is because of the sheer chance that they've been born into a time and place where that particular religion is popular.

[ShortMonkey]

At 11/2/09 12:11 AM, RoboJesus wrote: I'm surrounded by Christians and remain an atheist.

As I am surrounded by atheists and other religions yet I remain Catholic.

[Yamor]

At 11/2/09 12:11 AM, RoboJesus wrote: I'm surrounded by Christians and remain an atheist.

Well, you are one of the few who break from the mold of others around them.

[EpicFail]

I highly disagree, I grew up in a family of Christians, and I chose my own religious views.
I know a lot of people here who have religious families, and they themselves do not believe in any higher power at all.

[ladydeathnote73]

I think that people put too much into religion. You should live your life the way that you want

[Me-Patch]

Well freedom of religion and seperation of church and state are both fairly recent developments in the course of human society, give it some time to spread. Besides in all times of crisis people usually look to their own self interest rather than adhering to their personal bonds of spirituality or philosophy. If you ask me deep down inside we're all either secular humanists or mentally unbalanced.

[bamsebomsen]

At 11/1/09 11:57 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

At 11/1/09 11:51 PM, Yamor wrote: How does it make you feel that 90% of people get their morals from the roll of some dice.

In other words, 'durr no shit'.

/thread

[satanbrain]

this shit remind me the ancient eastern habits, every god has live in its own place.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 11/2/09 08:02 AM, EpicFail wrote: I highly disagree, I grew up in a family of Christians, and I chose my own religious views.
I know a lot of people here who have religious families, and they themselves do not believe in any higher power at all.

In both instances it'd be difficult to claim that your views or those other people's views were not in any way influenced by their upbringing or surroundings. Like language, you're more likely to frame your beliefs in the same pattern that other people in your general area do, but also like language, it doesn't exclude you from ever learning other ways to communicate those views.

For instance, the fact that you were ABLE to choose your own religious views is, itself, a product of your surroundings. Not everyone is in the position to do that and still be 'accepted' in their family or social group, not everyone has the interest to research other belief systems (or to formulate their own), and not everyone even has the access to information about other belief systems even if they DID have the interest. So anyway... even you choosing your own religious views has at least something to owe towards your location.

[Dropkicked]

At 11/1/09 11:51 PM, Yamor wrote: How does it make you feel that 90% of people get their morals from the roll of some dice.

Makes me feel like you came to this conclusion way after I did, and you're clearly more impressed by it than I was.

[andhination]

I wish that was far more true.
Seriously, muslims need to GTFO my country.
Well, at least a fair amount of them. There's too damn many, and I'm fed up of their passive yet aggressive way of telling you Jesus is not the son of God and just a prophet. Fuck off damnit.
Back on topic, I guess you're right to a degree, but some people convert.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 11/2/09 01:50 PM, andhination wrote: I'm fed up of their passive yet aggressive way of telling you Jesus is not the son of God and just a prophet. Fuck off damnit.

That's funny, I'd have figured it more likely that people would be annoyed over ANY talk about Jesus, not just the particulars.

[andhination]

At 11/2/09 02:14 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

At 11/2/09 01:50 PM, andhination wrote: I'm fed up of their passive yet aggressive way of telling you Jesus is not the son of God and just a prophet. Fuck off damnit.

That's funny, I'd have figured it more likely that people would be annoyed over ANY talk about Jesus, not just the particulars.

That's the particular one that really annoys me.
Seriously though.
It's like, with atheists, they almost expect us to bash back, so it's sound if they want to have a go, but if you have a go at muslim beliefs you're racist. raaaaaaaaaaage

[GuntherHermann]

At 11/2/09 01:50 PM, andhination wrote: I wish that was far more true.
Seriously, muslims need to GTFO my country.
Well, at least a fair amount of them. There's too damn many, and I'm fed up of their passive yet aggressive way of telling you Jesus is not the son of God and just a prophet. Fuck off damnit.

Never heard of anything like this. I know a whole lot of Muslims and I've never heard them mention their religion at all save for when they're buying halal meat. Besides, can you justify why being born in a nation gives you a birth right over other people to live there?

[andhination]

At 11/2/09 02:22 PM, GuntherHermann wrote: Never heard of anything like this. I know a whole lot of Muslims and I've never heard them mention their religion at all save for when they're buying halal meat.

Obviously you got the good ones. :c

Besides, can you justify why being born in a nation gives you a birth right over other people to live there?

When on earth did I say this?
Plenty of muslims are born in this country.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 11/2/09 02:18 PM, andhination wrote: That's the particular one that really annoys me.
Seriously though.
It's like, with atheists, they almost expect us to bash back, so it's sound if they want to have a go, but if you have a go at muslim beliefs you're racist. raaaaaaaaaaage

Alright well I agree that it's retarded when it's accepted to question one group's beliefs but with another group it's not accepted to question their beliefs... but, still, I mean... you DO get where they're coming from with that particular point, right? I mean, for one, he isn't "just a prophet", in Muslim belief he's going to come back and actually KILL al-Dajjal (the Antichrist) so he's still immensely important to them. Besides which, when he was originally accused of blasphemy he quoted Psalm 82 saying, "does it not say in your scripture 'ye are gods'?" which in the psalm continues "...all of you sons of the Most High". Soooo... to really believe Jesus is the ONE, the ONNNNLLLLLYYYY 'son of God' is kindof a corruption of the point he was trying to get across, I think.

anyhoooooooo

[hdxmike]

This is what makes england suck even moar !

Some muslim people put up their islam shit EVERYWHERE and we cant do a damn thing or its 'racist'
But when WE put up a union jack on OUR front lawn its a fucking crime

[andhination]

At 11/2/09 02:32 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote: Alright well I agree that it's retarded when it's accepted to question one group's beliefs but with another group it's not accepted to question their beliefs... but, still, I mean... you DO get where they're coming from with that particular point, right?

Yes, I understand and respect their belief, I think it's quite a good religion as a whole, but I'm fed up of the followers of it.

[GuntherHermann]

At 11/2/09 02:31 PM, andhination wrote:

At 11/2/09 02:22 PM, GuntherHermann wrote: Besides, can you justify why being born in a nation gives you a birth right over other people to live there?

When on earth did I say this?
Plenty of muslims are born in this country.

Alright then, can you justify why not being Muslim gives you a right over other people to live in a nation?

[andhination]

At 11/2/09 02:37 PM, GuntherHermann wrote:

At 11/2/09 02:31 PM, andhination wrote:

At 11/2/09 02:22 PM, GuntherHermann wrote: Besides, can you justify why being born in a nation gives you a birth right over other people to live there?

When on earth did I say this?
Plenty of muslims are born in this country.

Alright then, can you justify why not being Muslim gives you a right over other people to live in a nation?

When they start letting Christians live in their countries without looking for every excuse to blow the fuck out of them, they can live in ours.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 11/2/09 02:36 PM, andhination wrote: Yes, I understand and respect their belief, I think it's quite a good religion as a whole, but I'm fed up of the followers of it.

fair 'nuff, but that does kinda remind me of what Gandhi said way back when...

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

i mean, basically, when you identify yourself as of being this group or that group, you inevitably give cause for someone else to project upon you all the supposed attributes of the group no matter what your individual nature is. all Muslims are annoying then, because really, some Muslims are annoying... but those "some" still occupy more of your mindspace than the silent majority behind them.

a vocal minority fucks up a lot of things for the factions they claim to rep. just imagine if people started to think of the Westboro Baptist Church as THE iconic Christian congregation. it'd leave a foul taste in damn near everyone's mouths.

[andhination]

At 11/2/09 02:46 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote: but those "some" still occupy more of your mindspace than the silent majority behind them.

They do. Fair point.

a vocal minority fucks up a lot of things for the factions they claim to rep. just imagine if people started to think of the Westboro Baptist Church as THE iconic Christian congregation. it'd leave a foul taste in damn near everyone's mouths.

I think I'd just die if that happened.
Still, the ones I've come across annoy the fuck out of me, not to mention the councils all bending the fuck out of the law to suit their needs as opposed to us non-muslims.