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gantinxx

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Posted at: 10/31/09 10:35 PM

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Well I am getting into programming and i heard python was the best for beginners but anyway i was wondering what did you guys first make when you were new to programming?

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Posted at: 11/1/09 12:24 AM

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I gave python a go, it wasn't really my thing. Although I never really did get very far with it.

I still suck ass at programming, but I decided to go straight for C++ because I'm cool and all I've created with it so far are crappy text based games and a calculator =p.

People always told me to learn HTML first before I started programming, I did this but never really saw the relevance with it, I don't really think it helps people progress faster with an actual programming language.

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Posted at: 11/1/09 01:11 AM

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I started out with Actionscript (Flash), and I would say that it's probably a good language for a novice programmer: There are loads of tutorials out there (although I would recommend books if you can afford them), you can get a graphic output on the screen faster and easier than many other languages and you don't need to worry so much about memory handling as in for example C++. The biggest downside I would say is that the Flash IDE costs quite a lot, there are free alternatives like FlashDevelop, but none of them are good tools for working with graphics compared with Flash (FD is still my favorite though).


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Posted at: 11/1/09 01:48 AM

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Like right now all i am doing is getting use to the language and just figuring out what everything does but i hope to get up there. Seems so cool and its even cooler that i want to learn it really badly. Usually im not so intent on learning things but for some reason take a liking to this.

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Posted at: 11/1/09 01:11 PM

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I learned the basic idea and syntax of programming when I was 12 or 13 using Actionscript. I agree that it's not exactly programming, but it's what got me into it. I then got a book on C++ which got me thinking like a programmer. C++ was something way too powerful for a 13 year-old kid, and I probably never learned 98% of what can be done.

I basically stopped altogether after that, because I had no real motivation, and I didn't understand how to make anything worthwhile. It was kind of like a learning experience.

Anyway, university rolls around, 5 years later, and I'm taking programming for multidisciplinary studies, which is learning Python. I really like python, as it allows me to solve tasks and feel as though I'm actually doing something useful. I particularly like this class, as we've made some graphical applications, something I never managed to do on my own.

Python is good (for beginners) because it hides a lot of the details of the actual processes of the computer from the programmer, and allows them to focus on the task at hand.

Anyway, good luck in your programming endeavors.


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Posted at: 11/1/09 01:35 PM

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I will further recommend Python. It is a very simple language to use. It'll give you a great chance to learn programming fundamentals, without having to worry about messy details. Once you have a good grasp with it, you can move on to a more widely used language.

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gantinxx

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Posted at: 11/2/09 09:10 AM

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thanks guys for all the tips and such.

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Posted at: 11/2/09 09:40 PM

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The first (and current) language I am learning is Java. I first learned some of it in grade 10, and I've been taking it all through to where I am now in grade 12. I too have heard Python is a very good language to learn for beginners, and I too may venture into it sooner or later.

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gantinxx

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Posted at: 11/3/09 09:01 PM

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Also another question i have for writing scripts and such is what can they do? Like i read somewhere that you can make a script to automate something that you may do everyday and i know that you can do some games. Just learning about what can be done with programming.

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Posted at: 11/4/09 03:50 AM

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Anything you want. Did you think it was a toy? Programming is how your computer system was made.

You can make programs that perform certain actions to your files automatically, communicate with other computers, make programs that do your math homework, programs with rich interactive interfaces like text editors and paint programs, also games.

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Posted at: 11/4/09 08:18 AM

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It's always nice to see someone interested in starting to program. I usually tell people to jump straight into C++ but maybe that's a little bit too hardcore for novices. If you want to be productive right away, I say ActionScript (3.0, of course). Actually, the biggest problem that novices face isn't really in the language itself - it's mostly learning how to "think like a programmer" and that should be the focus while learning. The best book that I've seen so far on programming for novices is "Programming: Principles and Practices (using C++)" by Bjarne Stroustrup. It uses C++ but only as a tool for doing the job (programming), not to learn how to master a particular programming language. You also mentioned HTML, I believe that it might be productive to learn how it works but it isn't really programming and won't teach you much about it.

On the "what can be done with programming" part, the answer is everything (almost). Really. Our modern world depends heavily on it.


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Posted at: 11/4/09 08:52 AM

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I started with Python and I still use it everyday. All though I have learned and use other languages (Java, C++, processing, and the core web languages) python is still my favorite. It is simple yet very powerful. Though if you are looking for something graphical and not flash (and free), try out processing. It is based on java and has some really cool features.


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