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Posted at: 10/30/09 01:37 PM

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Also, time traveling does not exist. If it did, then someone would have traveled back to the present day along time ago and told us. Therefor, your theory is wrong.


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ive never understood the whole, "nothing travels faster than light, and if you go faster you'll be going back in time" sorta thing. surely if you travel faster than light, all it means is that everythings going to go dark because the light hasnt reached it yet?

events wont stop happening just because your going faster than light.

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Can I add to the impossibility a bit by further harping on the "Dude, there's no way you're traveling faster than light" train of thought?

Say you were to get an object traveling at the sort of velocity necessary to match light speed. How do you get the sort of energy to do that? Light is a bizarre phenomenon, as it's so energetic it travels at maximum velocity despite being a particle. How does it do this? Light displays both the characteristics of a particle and a WAVE. The wave aspect of the light is resultant of the fact that it is PURE energy. None of the overall mass/energy is wasted bonding light to another particle, so light can put all of it's energy into momentum. Since it's just above massless, it moves quickly.

Now, one of the great features of being all energy, and thusly, a wave, is that you don't travel in a straight line. Minute differences in the amount of energy you carry determine the frequency you wave at, and thusly offer an unpredictable range of possibilities where the 'particle' of light could be located at any given point. It could be anywhere along the path of the photon (light particle), AND anywhere within the range of the wave's path.

So, assuming you COULD travel at or faster than the speed of light without regards to the mass of an object being accelerated, you'd have to contend with the fact that your greater-than-maximum-velocity object would travel as a wave. Depending on the scale, the unpredictable nature of the "particle's" location could be as much as several to several hundreds of times the object's size. A human being traveling at many times light speed would, 'in theory' as you put it, wave around such objects as entire doors. You could be traveling straight toward the wall 6 feet to the right of the door, and wave right through the door around it and into the room on the other side uninterrupted. But that's only one of the possible scenarios. There's a far greater chance that you'd simply wave into the wall in the first place (which would actually cause your energy to be absorbed into the wall from the impact causing an enormous expenditure of energy in some form or another).

My point here is that it's easy to argue for the soundness of a theory when ignoring the only factor that decides truth: reality. People can't wave around doors, things can't travel that fast.

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At 10/30/09 01:37 PM, lolwtfmudkips wrote: Also, time traveling does not exist. If it did, then someone would have traveled back to the present day along time ago and told us.

Unless the furthest time they could possibly go back to is the beginning of time travel itself.

Think about it. It's not like you can take a train from point A to point B without rail lines in-between them, or make a phone call from point A to point B without phone lines in-between them. So, IF there ever comes to be some sort of vehicle for time travel, then it kinda makes sense that it'd only be usable during the period in which the 'pathways' for it to travel on also exist.

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Holy fuck you people are stupid.
It's like none of you read anything except the title of this thread.

First off, this doesn't have anything to do with time-travel. Seeing the past is not time travel.

Second, I don't think that light will just travel in a straight line all the way to you unaltered through 100 million lightyears of space. It depends what you're looking at but most likely your light will be bent, dissipated or blocked by something by the time it reaches whatever point you pick.

I don't really know enough about this to tell you what your planet would look like as seen from X lightyears away. Maybe it would work really well until X distance but then get blurry eventually, or shift towards red colors? Who knows.

My main point is: you guys are stupid.


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You're all giving this idea too much credit by giving your theorys about shit we won't know for thousands of years, and will never happen.

Like the guy above me already said, that isn't time travel. it's looking into the future except backwards, you can't touch or interfere with anything, but you can still see it. (I'm not saying either of them are possible.)

So, let's assume for a second that time travel was possible, in some form. By now, there would have been no world wars, or any wars. And by now, someone would've came back in time to tell us how to make these machines so we wouldn't have to wait thousands of years.

"Sir, we are surrounded!"

"Excellent, we can attack in any direction!"

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At 10/30/09 03:49 AM, SteveGuzzi wrote:
At 10/30/09 03:20 AM, The4thSurvivor wrote: Things you would need:

1. A super powered telescope that can see infinitely, with no questions asked.
2. A spaceship that could fly, say, 1 million times faster than the speed of light.
oh hey that's all?

I think I might have those lying around my garage somewhere

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WAYS YOU CAN 'TIME TRAVEL'

1)Say an alien is doing an everyday thing (shitting,eating etc.) and you have a pretty lame telescope.
If you use the telescope to see the alien,which is light years away,it would take,say,about 100 years
to see the alien.So when you finally see the alien,you would see what the alien was seeing 100 years
before (The everyday thing).

Uh...That's all I know...

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My favorite part was when they confused time dilation with the speed of light and decided that time moves backwards beyond the point at which it stops.


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At 10/30/09 03:22 AM, BlackClown wrote: Or you could just get in the fucking Delorean.

You give me hope for the future

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OMFG dude, you are right, because light DOES take time to travel, and if you CATCH UP TO THE LIGHT THAT WAS MADE MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO..AND IF SPACE IS INFINITELY LARGE..

You sir, are a genius. You deserve the Nobel prize if you thought of this COMPLETELY BY YOURSELF.

Why the hate? Where is the love?

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You can actually go faster than light it you bend space/time, but now the problem is a telescope.

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Yea lets surpass the speed of light tremendlously</retarted>


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That's the coolest time-travel theory I've ever heard. It would be impossible to build those two things of course, but if you had them, that almost sounds like it might be possible. :O


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It would be so much easier to just cause some massive problem in the world, wait for Doctor Who to come after you then mug him for the keys to the tardis, then you could time travel and interact with things. That would be about a million years quicker than makig your own spaceship.


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Old news....read a book

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At 10/30/09 03:20 AM, The4thSurvivor wrote: blah blah blah.

Generic stoner talk. It's right up there with "WHAT IF WE'RE JUST AN ATOM INSIDE A BIGGER WORLD OMGOGOMGOMGO FUCK, pack me a cone, eh?"

You wouldn't of traveled back in time, you'd just be looking back in it if that theory were even remotely possible.

Remember. Light spreads, much like on earth. Everything would be distorted.

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You cant go faster than light.
It´s a fact.

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At 10/30/09 02:21 PM, poxpower wrote:
My main point is: you guys are stupid.

It's like reading the collective ramblings of a lunatic asylum on the subject of time travel. Retarded, extremely ill-informed and utterly mad.

Sup?

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At 10/30/09 01:37 PM, lolwtfmudkips wrote: Also, time traveling does not exist. If it did, then someone would have traveled back to the present day along time ago and told us. Therefor, your theory is wrong.

THe current hypothosis is that you can only travel back until the point when time travel was invented.


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Time Travel is not possible in the least bit....


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I hate it that if I've read one post, means I read the whole thread because the other 20 people are gonna post the same shit.

Let's take all the laws of physics away, just stop being pseudo-intellectuals and imagine how fucking awesome this would be...Almost as cool as entering a black hole (inb4 some retard posts "OMG DATS IMPOSEBUL CUZ UD DIE INSTANTLY HAHA IM S0 SMRAT!").

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Your theory is quite simple. Considering time travel could be only be possible if you achieved the speed of light which is like 300,000 kilometers per second. It's almost impossible.


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At 10/30/09 03:26 AM, GuntherHermann wrote: yeah lets surpass the speed of light all i need is to trim this spaceship a little and add some spoilers

Its just a theory anyway, which going off the things needed is never going to happen with our petty human capabilities. I can understand the LOGIC but can't accept the theory.

What are these chemicals in my head, that tell me I should be dead?
Cause no-one's this lucky not even the man, who won the lottery again and again.

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At 10/30/09 03:20 AM, The4thSurvivor wrote: Seeing as you are 100 million light years away, (and light years measure how far light travels in one year) you would be able to see what was happening on the earth 100 million years ago.

yes, but we will have to wait 100 million years to see it too

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The way you thought of time travel is just impossible....

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At 10/31/09 06:39 AM, spluck wrote: You cant go faster than light.
It´s a fact.

You can´t really say that its not possible to move faster than light. I have already read and heard about experiments where people were able to move some objects for a very short peroid of time as fast as light. But in Wikipedia I have also read:
"According to special relativity it would take an infinite amount of energy to accelerate a slower-than-light object to the speed of light. "
Also readable here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel #Time_travel_via_faster-than-light_trave l
I dont really know if it works or not but i still think that time travel is possible.


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That would be a view of the Universe's past, as you cannot see into the future, eh? Besides, you wouldn't be able to go to the past, effectively revoking your method of what you call "time travel".


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At 10/30/09 03:20 AM, The4thSurvivor wrote: I just wanted to explain this, and see what anyone else thinks about this theory. And let it be known that with my theory, you wouldn't actually be able to INTERACT with anything, it would just be viewing it.

Things you would need:

1. A super powered telescope that can see infinitely, with no questions asked.
2. A spaceship that could fly, say, 1 million times faster than the speed of light.

Now, depending on how fast your spaceship[p can travel, you zoom out into space, say 100 million light years.

You turn around, and with your telescope, you focus in on the Earth.

NOW

Seeing as you are 100 million light years away, (and light years measure how far light travels in one year) you would be able to see what was happening on the earth 100 million years ago.

The reason is, you are viewing the light that is out in space, that was eminated from the earth 100 million years ago. Because light goes on forever in every direction, you can essentially blow past the light that was eminated yesterday, and watch it all happen again.

Any thoughts?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but nothing can exceed the speed of light, let alone 100 million times said speed. The only thing that you stated that is fundamentally possible, and happens every day, is looking up at the sky and seeing stars. And the most fatal flaw from your "theory" is that, even with the most powerful telescope known to man, at 100 mly the Earth would be a minute pale blue dot. No real terrestrial land marks, or figures would be visible. And lets just say you did have a powerful telescope able to see the surface of the earth from 100 million light years away. And for the sake of conversation, that your ship could travel the speed of light. It would take 100 Million years to reach said distance. And lets also say that you were placed in cryogenic stasis, and awoke 100 million years later. Using your all powerful telescope you would observe the day you left. Rendering this theory useless and a big waste of time, plus stranding people 100 Million light years away and 100 million years in the future.

Maybe later.....


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