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Posted at: 10/29/09 01:34 PM

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Alumna sues college because she hasn't found a job

NEW YORK (CNN) -- A recent college graduate is suing her alma mater for $72,000 -- the full cost of her tuition and then some -- because she cannot find a job.

Trina Thompson, 27, of the Bronx, graduated from New York's Monroe College in April with a bachelor of business administration degree in information technology.

[...] As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record. But Monroe's career-services department has put forth insufficient effort to help her secure employment, she claims.

[...] She suggested that Monroe's Office of Career Advancement shows preferential treatment to students with excellent grades. "They favor more toward students that got a 4.0. They help them more out with the job placement," she said

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I really don't understand why business grads think they're such hot shit. Even people with real degrees are having trouble finding jobs, and this person is suing because she immediately wants a good job because she barely passed her classes in Business Science in Information Technology (i.e. "Math and computer science for morons")?

Here's a life tip kids: If people who get higher grades than you are having an easier time getting a job, it's probably not because your career services department is unfairly biased against you. It's probably because they're working harder at it, are more likely to be hired by a given employer, and they're taking better advantage of the resources available to them. They have the ability to do this because they're smarter than you are.

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From what I gather, she chose to take a placement year which was offered to her, and the college didn't assist her, rather than simply not being able to get a job. Is that right?

It's still silly though, because of the recession and that, there are a lot of people I've heard of not getting placements this year.

I find it odd that employers are judging graduates by their GPA though (GPAs are from high school, right?), seeing as if they've done well at uni they've obviously pulled theirself together.

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They're supposed to say, 'I got this student, her attendance is good, her GPA is all right -- can you interview this person?' They're not doing that," she said.

Well, first, that is her fault for picking such an expensive school. 70,000 for a bachelors? WTF? I have a friend who is a lawyer and he only had around 50,000 in student loans for two degrees.

If I were the judge, I wouldn't even spend more than 10 minutes on this. At no point and time did she has ever mentioned what did she do for herself. How many resumes did she send out? How many applications did she file? I think this student just sour that she got all those student loans, and the lenders are wanting their money and she doesn't have it to pay back.

Not the schools responsiblity to get you a job, just their responsibility to make you qualifed to look for a job. Hell, what else does she want? probably wants the school to pay her rent and food also. lol

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She just wants money so she can hold out until she gets a job. What a bitch, she'll definitely get that shit dismissed. Petty matters, petty, petty matters.

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At 10/29/09 01:34 PM, Elfer wrote: Alumna sues college because she hasn't found a job

NEW YORK (CNN) -- A recent college graduate is suing her alma mater for $72,000 -- the full cost of her tuition and then some -- because she cannot find a job.

Trina Thompson, 27, of the Bronx, graduated from New York's Monroe College in April with a bachelor of business administration degree in information technology.

[...] As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record. But Monroe's career-services department has put forth insufficient effort to help her secure employment, she claims.

[...] She suggested that Monroe's Office of Career Advancement shows preferential treatment to students with excellent grades. "They favor more toward students that got a 4.0. They help them more out with the job placement," she said

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I really don't understand why business grads think they're such hot shit. Even people with real degrees are having trouble finding jobs, and this person is suing because she immediately wants a good job because she barely passed her classes in Business Science in Information Technology (i.e. "Math and computer science for morons")?

Here's a life tip kids: If people who get higher grades than you are having an easier time getting a job, it's probably not because your career services department is unfairly biased against you. It's probably because they're working harder at it, are more likely to be hired by a given employer, and they're taking better advantage of the resources available to them. They have the ability to do this because they're smarter than you are.

Why doesn't anyone realize the economy in the USA would be FIXED if the government declared that all business majors have to take up trade skill (lumberjack, welder, carpenter). Lets face it; college is not for everyone and there should be no place for fucking morons in it. Those who aren't morons getting a business degree (very few) should just get a law degree instead.

I base this theory on the fact that all of the increased work demand for welders and mill workers in WWII is what saved our economy.

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At 10/29/09 01:41 PM, Ejit wrote: From what I gather, she chose to take a placement year which was offered to her, and the college didn't assist her, rather than simply not being able to get a job. Is that right?

No, it seems like she basically did not get a job handed to her (a "full-time placement" in this context apparently just means an entry-level job), so now she's suing her college for not doing enough to get her sorry ass a high-paying job.

This case is going to be thrown out, most likely. A ruling in her favour is not only ridiculous, it would set an unbelievably awful precedent. It's a shame she's spending her time and money on frivolous legal issues instead of finding a job and paying off her already existing debt, but hey, it's that kind of stupid that got her where she is in the first place.

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What a freaking retard!

A college degree doesn't guarantee you jack squat! Apparently she's the first student EVER, in the history of the world, not to realize that basic fact.

Let's see.... If I need a person with her skills, who an I going to hire? Her, or another applicant who got a 4.0?

Gee, that was an easy decision. For someone with a college degree, she's dumb as Hell.


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At 10/29/09 02:05 PM, Elfer wrote: This case is going to be thrown out, most likely. A ruling in her favour is not only ridiculous, it would set an unbelievably awful precedent.

Tell me about it. With all of the ridiculous online "colleges" these days which offer print-out diplomas that don't mean anything in the workforce, allowing an alumnus to sue their college for not providing them with employment upon graduation would cause an enormous amount of suits.

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That'd be like people in America suing George W. Bush because 9/11 happened.

Retarded and doesn't prove a point.

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Oh dear, this is going to fuck her up bad.

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"business administration degree in information technology"

"It doesn't make any sense: They went to school for four years, and then they come out working at McDonald's and Payless. That's not what they planned."

Well that sounds like one of those studies that just too many people do already then. Thus it's no wonder only the ones with good grades get a decent job quickly. And shouldn't you at least do a little research on your chances on the employment market before starting with a study? If I would know that graduates can end up working at a fastfood restaurant because the demand for them is too low, I'd probably go look for something else.


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At 10/29/09 02:10 PM, Monocrom wrote: What a freaking retard!

A college degree doesn't guarantee you jack squat!

Let's see what you said at the bottom...

Let's see.... If I need a person with her skills, who an I going to hire? Her, or another applicant who got a 4.0?

Grades don't tell the whole story, and I'm sure Elfer and others know that you can get a 4.0 GPA and still be as dumb and lazy as fuck.

For someone with a college degree, she's dumb as Hell.

Do you see this? Assuming that people who have college degrees are smart, what you just did here, you help propagate and enforce that having a college degree SHOULD mean something. If having a college degree doesn't mean jack shit, you should immediately stop assuming that going to college makes a person intelligent.

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At 10/29/09 02:55 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote:
At 10/29/09 02:10 PM, Monocrom wrote: For someone with a college degree, she's dumb as Hell.
Do you see this? Assuming that people who have college degrees are smart, what you just did here, you help propagate and enforce that having a college degree SHOULD mean something.

Correct, spending 4 years at a school SHOULD mean something. If it doesn't mean anything, what is the point of the school? Like going to restaurant to eat, you should get food, but if you don't get food, what is the point of going to the restaurant and spending money there if you are going to have the same hunger before you walked in?

If having a college degree doesn't mean jack shit, you should immediately stop assuming that going to college makes a person intelligent.

True, HOWEVER, we should assume that that person should at least be knowledgeable to a certain extent. I can assume with a degree in IT that she should know more than a high school student who took a fewcomputer classes.

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Definately bribed judge.

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At 10/29/09 04:26 PM, TheLambsAreScreaming wrote: Definately bribed judge.

All she did was file suit. It hasn't even gone to trial yet, and probably won't.

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At 10/30/09 07:38 PM, Elfer wrote:
At 10/29/09 04:26 PM, TheLambsAreScreaming wrote: Definately bribed judge.
All she did was file suit. It hasn't even gone to trial yet, and probably won't.

well, obv not. person in question doesn't realise that times are difficult. in similar situation, except i won't be suing anyone. as that's what i learned and it won't stand up in court.

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At 10/29/09 01:44 PM, kidray76 wrote: Well, first, that is her fault for picking such an expensive school. 70,000 for a bachelors? WTF? I have a friend who is a lawyer and he only had around 50,000 in student loans for two degrees.

Try getting a degree in arts or media. Dedicated universities can cost up to $100,000 over four years, and scholarships don't exactly throw themselves at aspiring artists.

But on the topic of the thread, the girl needs a reality check. We're in a recession, and people with better grades AND years of experience to boot are having trouble finding work. Besides, the lawsuit itself speaks pretty well to how she probably acts in an interview.

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Oh wow, a Business Studies Degree, with only a 2.7 average?

That's basically the picture of a mundane student.

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That's so far beyond retarded I don't even know what to say.

I'm in exactly the same position as her right now. The simple fact of the matter is that, due to the recession, people further up the career ladder are being made redundant, and are having to apply for jobs normally only students would go for. Since a student's CV wouldn't be anywhere near as long as those of most of the recession's victims, there's little hope of a postgrad easily getting a job given the competition with experienced professionals there is now.

Getting a job is not about what you have; it's about what everyone else has. Coming off 2nd best doesn't mean you're bad in-and-of-yourself, and getting the job doesn't necessarily mean you're all that good either (only that there was no-one better than you this time round). Clearly, someone's missed that.

(Or, much more likely, she's strapped for cash, so does what a depressingly large amount of Americans do, and finds a stupid reason to sue someone randomly for some money.)


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Everyone seems to be suing everyone for everything these days... For stupider and stupider stuff
Makes me think I should get in on the action
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