Are media producers afraid of us?

[KeithHybrid]

Recently, I had to have a video I put onto Youtube taken down due to a copyright claim against a video i made that featured a song from a Japanese cartoon. I could understand if I had put the entire song on there for someone to download off of U-tub like a pirate, but I had only used about a 20-second excerpt from the song in the video, so I'm not exactly certain why the folks who made the claim against me got all into a fit.

I believe this brings up a valid point: in more recent times, the media industry (specifically the RIAA) has been criminalizing their consumers more and more, going so far as to sue some who may have downloaded a song or two for every penny they had. Could this be because the entertainment industry is becoming afraid of its consumers?

If they are, I could understand: after all, would you rather pay for an unsponsered independent rock band that has genuine talent, or would you rather pay $5 to listen to William Hung destroy Take Me Out To the Ball Game?

Any thought?

[Drakim]

It's most likely that they are following a no tolerance policy so that they won't have to spend time doing a judgement call on every occasion.

[poxpower]

They're just using their position at the top to bully people.
That's what it amounts to. They'll try to tug at your heart strings by saying how the poor set builder or makeup artist won't be able to make a living if you download movies while at the same time bagging records profits at the box office, dumping millions into the pockets of stars and taking giant bonuses and salaries.

They're businessmen, not artists and they want YOUR MONEY and the internet will make SURE they won't get it anymore. There is NOTHING they can do to stop it. They're just trying to milk it for as long as they possibly can.

Now it remains to be seen who will win out: the recording companies or the hardware manufacturers. You can bet your ass that they wouldn't have sold so many iPods if people couldn't pirate music. They'll probably form some kind of alliance. But IT'S STILL TOO LATE.
Hah. Eat shit.

[amaterasu]

I agree with pox. The record industry knows it's days are numbered, so they are going to do anything they can now to make money. I can't wait for the day that we kick those pigs to the curb and the music industry is eventually revamped. They were the cancer to music anyway.

[ToddM]

Why do you guys care if music business people make money? You have a lot of hate to them without ever meeting anyone from the industry.

[poxpower]

At 10/29/09 05:52 PM, ToddM wrote: Why do you guys care if music business people make money?

I don't care if they do make money but I also don't care if they DON'T make money.

It's not about the quality or the price of the products anymore. Anyone can get it for free. That's the bottom line. Offer me something that I can't get for free and then you'll make money. For instance, going to the movies. That is enjoyable because you're out with friends in a chair with a giant screen. That's not something you can download.

But why the fuck would I buy a DVD? Even for 50 cents. The hassle of going to the store to get it isn't even worth the trouble no matter how cheap they can make it.

Sell people things they want.
One great example is Magic: The Gathering cards. Look at how stupid a product it is: a game that comes in little 15 card packs. It costs almost nothing to make yet is worth a lot, costs a lot and makes people spend a lot. You simply can't replicate the cards themselves and play in tournaments but you can print copies of the cards and play at home or with friends for free.

See, they're not selling the IDEAS of the cards, they're selling the collectible aspect and rewarding you for having real cards by letting you play in tournaments.

If you want people to buy your movies and your shit, give them real incentives other than a pretty DVD box. Giving them "extra stuff" on the DVD is retarded as it can just be ripped. If it was me, I'd make a club where I'd sell people exclusive shit for buying / renting my things.
Free movie tickets? Free rentals? Free DVDS? Make it fun, make it worthwhile. Stop trying to sell me one DVD that costs 20 cents to make for 20 bucks AFTER your movie has already made 200 million bucks at the box office.

THIS JUST IN: RANTING KICKS ASS

[Ericho]

At 10/29/09 06:17 PM, poxpower wrote: But why the fuck would I buy a DVD? Even for 50 cents. The hassle of going to the store to get it isn't even worth the trouble no matter how cheap they can make it.

Uh, I didn't even know you could download all of the features of a DVD on a computer like you could the regular movie. Everything has a DVD player nowadays and I'd think it would be strange for someone to have one and never use it. How exactly is going to the store such a hassle? You can just, you know, order a movie online.

[drDAK]

At 10/29/09 10:56 AM, Drakim wrote: It's most likely that they are following a no tolerance policy so that they won't have to spend time doing a judgement call on every occasion.

Pretty much. It is also curbing free speech to a certain extent.

[xskatasticx]

As far as illegal downloading of movies, incentives would be the direction to go in. Giving things that you could not get over the net would persuade the customer into making an actual purchase.

As far as the music industry goes, things are rapidly changing and its a matter of who's gong to die out and who's going to adapt and overcome on top.

Big bands, I couldn't care less about people stealing their music. But its the small labels and the small bands that are trying to make enough money to keep touring and record more music that I feel bad for. The major labels are quickly dying and they know the independent labels have somewhat of a hold. This is in part of the smaller labels offering or having more incentives to purchase the real copy of music from them. This has resulted in major labels creating (fake) independent labels to keep them in the game longer.

Not to mention its getting more and more cheap and efficient to record yourself in your own home each year tells me the music industry is going to have a bit of a bumpy ride these next few years.

[pr0ded]

Not to mention its getting more and more cheap and efficient to

or they can get a booking agent, and not everyone is an engineer or producer

[SmilezRoyale]

At 10/29/09 12:06 PM, poxpower wrote:

Now it remains to be seen who will win out: the recording companies or the hardware manufacturers. You can bet your ass that they wouldn't have sold so many iPods if people couldn't pirate music. They'll probably form some kind of alliance. But IT'S STILL TOO LATE.
Hah. Eat shit.

Sounds like you're letting free human action allow for a restructuring of the structure of production.

Stupid market fundamentalist

[DeadSun]

no it just means youtube is a dick.