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He wont win if he tries to sue. They were not infringing on any of his rights.


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At 10/28/09 05:31 PM, LivinInTheSunlight wrote: Instant troll alarm activated.

Abandon this thread. It's obvious this guy is trolling.

As much as I wish this was true read some of his other posts. I think this guy is actually the retard that his posts suggest.


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At 10/28/09 05:31 PM, LivinInTheSunlight wrote:

Instant troll alarm activated.

Abandon this thread. It's obvious this guy is trolling.

No, I'm not trolling. God comes first. It's as simple as that. I don't care if I were to get fired. The Lord always delivers to those who deliver. He's like FedEx's UPS.


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At 10/28/09 05:41 PM, slingshot14 wrote:
At 10/28/09 05:31 PM, LivinInTheSunlight wrote:

Instant troll alarm activated.

Abandon this thread. It's obvious this guy is trolling.
No, I'm not trolling. God comes first. It's as simple as that. I don't care if I were to get fired. The Lord always delivers to those who deliver. He's like FedEx's UPS.

Alright, then let's just for the sake of argument assume that this statement was held true, and the US government held this same stance.

Terrorists attack our world trade center? God comes first, and God says not to kill and turn the other cheek, so let's let them have their victory, at least we please the lord.

God comes first, before modern medicine? Alright little billy, I'm sorry you have cancer, but we only pray from now on instead of utilizing our technology to help you.

God does not come first in humanly matters, because we have free will and we must fight for ourselves. If a buisness loses customers because of an employee, because he refuses to obey regulations because God comes first, who is that hurting? The employer.

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Not saying it's not wrong of them to place such restrictions on their workers, because people should be able to express their beliefs, but if you look at the core matter, the guy was NOT fired for wearing the button.

He was fired for violating company policy, and when a simple "take it off" was rejected voluntarily by him, he was terminated. So, he didn't get canned for the button, which it states in their rulebook, cannot be worn, he got canned for disobeying his superiors.

It'd be the same thing as wearing a button that says "fuck you", being asked to take it off and saying "no."

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At 10/28/09 05:30 PM, slingshot14 wrote: To those of you saying that the company had a right to fire him because he was breaking company policy I say, bullshit. When it comes to asserting your position as a child of God, no company policies matter. God comes first.

Please cite the legal text for the "Right to Break Company Policies".

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This guy should get back to reality. If he wanted to keep his job, he should have taken the button off. Just because you love your God and your country doesn't mean you have to go parading it around. This guy should stop crying and follow rules.

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At 10/28/09 05:31 PM, LivinInTheSunlight wrote:
At 10/28/09 05:30 PM, slingshot14 wrote: To those of you saying that the company had a right to fire him because he was breaking company policy I say, bullshit. When it comes to asserting your position as a child of God, no company policies matter. God comes first.
Instant troll alarm activated.

Abandon this thread. It's obvious this guy is trolling.

I don't think your signature has ever been truer than this thread.

Oh wait. There's 10000 other threads that end up exactly like this one, everytime.

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At 10/28/09 05:48 PM, SohlTofang wrote:

Terrorists attack our world trade center? God comes first, and God says not to kill and turn the other cheek, so let's let them have their victory, at least we please the lord.

I think God's proven to be kinda "iffy" on the whole "thou shalt not murder" deal. He believes in a life for a life.

God comes first, before modern medicine? Alright little billy, I'm sorry you have cancer, but we only pray from now on instead of utilizing our technology to help you.

Oh come on, that has nothing to do with expressing a belief for God. Besides, modern medicine is God's way of healing people.

God does not come first in humanly matters, because we have free will and we must fight for ourselves. If a buisness loses customers because of an employee, because he refuses to obey regulations because God comes first, who is that hurting? The employer.

I don't give a fuck. God comes before the employer. Maybe he should create his own store, Christian Depot.


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At 10/28/09 05:16 PM, ChiefSol wrote: He got what he deserved.

ok, even i am an atheist. but ffs don't give the rest of us a bad name for giving stupid shit you do.
I also know that in today's society it seems that most constitutional laws (as well as civil laws) are so overlooked, that you can be fired or even jailed, it kind of makes you wonder what in the hell is wrong with the government of today. i mean so a guy showed he was religious, does it give you the right to fire his ass for wearing a tag representing what he believes in?

you ask me its a heap load of bullshit.

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At 10/28/09 05:57 PM, slingshot14 wrote:
At 10/28/09 05:48 PM, SohlTofang wrote:

Terrorists attack our world trade center? God comes first, and God says not to kill and turn the other cheek, so let's let them have their victory, at least we please the lord.
I think God's proven to be kinda "iffy" on the whole "thou shalt not murder" deal. He believes in a life for a life.

OK, really? REALLY? You honestly believe that? Because, you know, God definatley killed all those Jews and Romans after they killed Jesus. And Jesus definatley said, " Lol, well, you should love your brothers, as long as they never do anything bad". And God definatley didn't forgive Cain for killing Abel. For fucks sake.

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The USA is fucking up big time. First of all the button says "one nation under god" sounds familiar. Oh wait thats in the pledge of allegiance, I guess we should stop reciting the pledge in public.

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At 10/28/09 05:57 PM, slingshot14 wrote: I think

Personal.

He believes

Subjective.

Your story is as full of holes as Abel.

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At 10/28/09 05:57 PM, slingshot14 wrote:
I think God's proven to be kinda "iffy" on the whole "thou shalt not murder" deal. He believes in a life for a life.
Oh come on, that has nothing to do with expressing a belief for God. Besides, modern medicine is God's way of healing people.
I don't give a fuck. God comes before the employer. Maybe he should create his own store, Christian Depot.

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At 10/28/09 05:57 PM, slingshot14 wrote: I don't give a fuck. God comes before the employer.

Remind me again what Jesus said about earthly matters? Oh, right, "Render unto ceasar" etc. Faith is faith, secualr matters are secular matters.

At 10/28/09 06:03 PM, aSquared94 wrote: Oh wait thats in the pledge of allegiance, I guess we should stop reciting the pledge in public.

No, look. It doesn't matter what read on the button. it could have been the pledge, it could have been a band, it could have been a bunch of swear words.

If your boos says you have to take it off, you take it off, or you don't have a job. That's how employment works. Welcome to the real world.

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At 10/28/09 06:01 PM, XIII13 wrote:
At 10/28/09 05:57 PM, slingshot14 wrote:
At 10/28/09 05:48 PM, SohlTofang wrote:

Terrorists attack our world trade center? God comes first, and God says not to kill and turn the other cheek, so let's let them have their victory, at least we please the lord.
I think God's proven to be kinda "iffy" on the whole "thou shalt not murder" deal. He believes in a life for a life.
OK, really? REALLY? You honestly believe that? Because, you know, God definatley killed all those Jews and Romans after they killed Jesus. And Jesus definatley said, " Lol, well, you should love your brothers, as long as they never do anything bad". And God definatley didn't forgive Cain for killing Abel. For fucks sake.

God was under a lot of grief, I'm sure he just wasn't in the mood for any killing at the time. Jesus was a good dude. And God was still new to the whole "being ruler of the world" thing during the Cain and Abel deal.


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At 10/28/09 06:07 PM, slingshot14 wrote: God was under a lot of grief, I'm sure he just wasn't in the mood for any killing at the time. Jesus was a good dude. And God was still new to the whole "being ruler of the world" thing during the Cain and Abel deal.

Alright, alright, whoa, shut the fuck up here for a second.

You're breaking the rules of God. You're treating him as if he were a fallible human being and not the supreme omnipotent and (arguably) perfect ruler of the universe. Giving him moods, emotions, and treating him as if he could make mistakes because he's "new" to something is just ridiculous.

How about you get your facts checked before you go off blindly firing your "God" cannon? If you're gonna argue something at least make sure you're not just making shit up first.

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At 10/28/09 06:00 PM, kanon1 wrote: i mean so a guy showed he was religious, does it give you the right to fire his ass for wearing a tag representing what he believes in?

It sure does when company policy is NO, ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH buttons or anything else on the uniform unless it was provided by said company.

He was also told repeatedly to stop wearing the button or he was going to be fired. He continued to wear it "For God, and country" and was then fired. HE made this a religious issue so he could be a "martyr" and so this exact thing would happen.

I am going to repeat this since people can't seem to get it through their heads. He wasn't fired for wearing a "God" button, he was fired for violating the dress code.


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its in their guide that they have a specific uniform, if you don't follow that uniform, you will be fired. Simple as that, there is no religion going into it, thats just the media making it seem that his manager whipped him, and hung him from the cross for not taking his button off.


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At 10/28/09 06:07 PM, slingshot14 wrote: God was under a lot of grief, I'm sure he just wasn't in the mood for any killing at the time. Jesus was a good dude. And God was still new to the whole "being ruler of the world" thing during the Cain and Abel deal.

I can't tell if that's a serious argument.


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At 10/28/09 06:07 PM, slingshot14 wrote: And God was still new to the whole "being ruler of the world" thing during the Cain and Abel deal.

You've basically just stated that god is/was imperfect. This completely contradicts the very idea of god. Why is it that nobody is capable of arguing the case for god without contradicting themselves?

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he obeyed the rules of his company after a warning so i guess he cant do much about that..


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At 10/28/09 06:12 PM, skatin-andy wrote:
At 10/28/09 06:00 PM, kanon1 wrote: i mean so a guy showed he was religious, does it give you the right to fire his ass for wearing a tag representing what he believes in?
It sure does when company policy is NO, ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH buttons or anything else on the uniform unless it was provided by said company.

He was also told repeatedly to stop wearing the button or he was going to be fired. He continued to wear it "For God, and country" and was then fired. HE made this a religious issue so he could be a "martyr" and so this exact thing would happen.

I am going to repeat this since people can't seem to get it through their heads. He wasn't fired for wearing a "God" button, he was fired for violating the dress code.

after mentioning that, it makes everything a lot more clear. I can understand what you are saying and violating the working dress code can be a threat to your job. thanks for adding this little bit of info here.

you people could take an example from this guy.

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At 10/28/09 06:11 PM, Dropkicked wrote:

How about you get your facts checked before you go off blindly firing your "God" cannon?

Jesus was a muppet.


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At 10/28/09 06:20 PM, Davidzx wrote: that's discrimination, people shouldn't be fired over religious belief

He wasn't fired for his religious beliefs. He was fired for refusing to follow the company dress code. When he accepted the job there, he would've had to sign an agreement saying he will follow the uniform. He broke his agreement.

if someone brought a bible into work I couldnt give 2 flying shits if he read the whole thing.

Nothing to do with it.

religious beliefs shouldn't be a dismissal from work.

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Another golden thing:

"Keezer's lawyer, Kara Skorupa, said she planned to sue the Atlanta-based company."

Now, this can be taken two ways. We can take the greed side of things, the guy just wants to sue them because he wants money from the bastards. Thus, he has sinned. He feels he was in the right and will not ask for forgiveness. Thus he, according to Dante's Inferno, will be "bound and laid face down on the ground for having concentrated too much on earthly thoughts."

However, if he is doing this out of vengeance out of being taken out of a job for not being allowed to show off his religion and how much he loves his country, that's pride and wrath bundled into one. Now, if he's punished for pride, he will be expected, according to Dante's Inferno again, to be "forced to walk with stone slabs bearing down on their backs in order to induce feelings of humility". However, and this is more likely, he will be punished for wrath for committing revenge onto the company that fired him for his display of pride, well he can have fun with this: "the wrathful fight each other on the surface, and the sullen or slothful lie gurgling beneath the water, withdrawn "into a black sulkiness which can find no joy in God or man or the universe."

Even his own fucking religion hates him for what he's done.

Swallow your sugar pills, inject your saline, breath in some hydroxide mist and have a nice day.

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At 10/28/09 06:22 PM, slingshot14 wrote:
At 10/28/09 06:11 PM, Dropkicked wrote:

How about you get your facts checked before you go off blindly firing your "God" cannon?
Jesus was a muppet.

I'll just chalk this idiotic response up as a win for me. Later.

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Nah, but let me give you a serious answer. Jesus told God to forgive them so God didn't kill them. And God only had 4 people living on Earth during Cain and Abel. So killing one of them wouldn't have gotten him anywhere.


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At 10/28/09 05:22 PM, estrago1 wrote: Home Depot can't make him remove a button just because it wasn't "company-approved." What's that say about the clothes you wear? Do they have to be "company-approved" as well? Its bullshit!

Actually they DO have to be company approved. Dress code? Fairly standard policy


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